Pope Francis

Discussion in 'Prayer requests' started by padraig, Oct 26, 2019.

  1. LMF

    LMF Archangels

    The victims were kept quiet, and when "they" could no longer keep the victims quiet they took the next step in making things even worse - instead of dealing with the issue they instead went with "police background" checks for everyone involved in anyway with the running of a parish church. This had the effect of assuming everyone out there was guilty unless cleared by the secular law. Everyone from the Bishop to the usher was automatically suspect. And after so long, when alleged background checks did nothing to resolve anything, it became a source of resentment for many......it was no one's fault, but it was everyone's fault at the same time. $$ thrown at the victims just opened another portal of attack on the Church, and resentment among the people because then the false accusations started and no one was immune from that. Far easier to throw someone under the bus at that point.

    Imho, the 100 yrs that were given are up, and have been for a while. Maybe we're truly in a time of great grace and reprieve while the heavenly realms help the stragglers to get to where they need to be for when the "collapse" hits.
     
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  2. DeGaulle

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    The more I learn about him, the less I like him. Maybe he repented towards the end, but the damage had already been done. Far greater actual damage than the present pope, because nobody in the sixties could imagine a pope having anything in his head but the best interests of the Church.
     
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  3. padraig

    padraig Powers

    When I look at the face of Pope St Paul VI I always see huge suffering there.

    I have no trouble with accepting him as a saint or indeed with anyone the Church declares to be a saint
     
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  4. padraig

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    Looking back on it the huge mistake was that homosexuals were ordained
     
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  5. LMF

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    My thoughts have been this same way for a long time...and still are up to a point. The times, they were a changin' in the 60's.

    But before then, St. Pius X saw it coming, Leo XIII was directly warned about it. But maybe no one in those days could fathom it for exactly the reason stated ~ "nobody in the sixties could imagine a pope having anything in his head but the best interests of the Church." And everything was just so very very busy between major wars and preparing for the "new springtime". It was probably the same for 99% of Catholics everywhere. Except for the traitors, who knew the difference. And in a way, it's the same now ~ most can't fathom what's happened/still happening. As for the current holder of the office, he appears to justify what he's doing by saying he's just carrying on what had already been initiated by his predecessors. In one way, he's not wrong in that. But things are so confused now that it's become easier for people to just go along with that instead of praying over why we are still heading down this terribly dark road while being told there's no going back. Only prayer can straighten that out that dilemma. The current holder of the office sees things going the way of his predecessors, but if he's not praying his "sight" is not what it should be. They say he no longer offers Holy Mass. That is not a good thing for a priest, let alone a Pope. As for his heart, does he truly believe he's doing the Will of the Father? I'll leave that to the Good Lord to sort out since only He can read a heart.......

    I pray someday, like Francis of Assisi, he hears the voice of the Lord, saying instead "Francis!! What are you doing to my Church?!?!?" or as to St. Paul, "Francis, why are you persecuting Me?!?" The shock of that would either straighten him out or do him in.
     
  6. AED

    AED Powers

    The portrait Malachi Martin paints in his novel Vatican of his last days is poignant. I think he did realize what he had allowed.
     
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  7. padraig

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    Pope Benedict once said, 'My authority ends at that door!'

    I think we sometimes have an inflated idea of what Pope's can and cannot do
     
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  8. DeGaulle

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    I never disagree that he's a saint, but the Church never compels one to pray to a particular saint, so I intend never to pray to him.

    As for the suffering, he could hardly be aware of the damage he had caused. From the available evidence, it could have been a lot worse; Cardinal Ottoviani (why is he not a saint?) stopped him from removing the words of consecration from the Mass-despite many fears, even PF hasn't (yet) attempted such an abomination.
     
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  9. DeGaulle

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    Fair enough if they are unable to do anything. But Pope Paul VI and Pope Francis can't be accused of not being able to do anything-they've done plenty. Of course, destruction is far easier than standing for the unfashionable truth (as Pope Benedict undeniably tried his best to do).
     
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  10. padraig

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    Pope Paul VI was a saintly man swimming against an extremely strong current of evil .

    Papa Frankie, on the other hand, is an extremely evil man swimming with an extremely strong current of evil.
     
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  11. LMF

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    And as we are currently seeing, they themselves may have an inflated idea of what they think they can do, while choosing not to do what they should do.

    Pope Benedict did his best. No doubt about that. JPII was as holy a pope as we've had, but he appeared to be oblivious to the depth of the problem. Why was that? Maybe it had to do with the 100 years.......idk, just ramblings on my part.
     
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  12. padraig

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    Sometimes I think we lay Catholics imagine if we were Pope we would do so many wonderful things

    But actually the culture in the Vatican , the Church and the World at the moment is so incredibly Satanic and toxic at the moment that if any of us were Good Pope's we would be eaten alive before we even got out of bed in the morning
     
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  13. LMF

    LMF Archangels

    No doubt about that, lol We'd never make it to the front door ~
     
  14. padraig

    padraig Powers

    It's the same with our Parish Priests. We might think they should say or do so many things But actually their real power to change things is very limited

    Imagine for instance a priest who stood up and told his congregation that there was too much talking in Church. He might just as well shoot himself
    .Folks won't take correction these days
     
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  15. Pax Prima

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    For me, this appears to hold a lot more truth than anything else. I personally believe these sorts of things we have witnessed and are currently witnessing are chastisements. In which case nothing will stop them for the time being. Our Lady in Medjugorje has been repeating that we have been in a time of grace since October 25th, 1985. This makes me wonder if it was at that point she let the world know we are at a point of no return regarding chastisements.
     
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  16. padraig

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    1985 sounds to me like yesterday but it is really nearly 40 years ago. The World has changed since then out of all recognition. One thing we learn from the saints is that God somethings the apparent triumph of evil as a further punishment. Many of the people we see on our screens, including priests ,Cardinals and Bishops are outright Satanic.

    What is heading in our direction is the greatest by far series of catastrophic happenings in all human history. Even the blades of grass in the ground will be heavily effected.
     
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  17. Pax Prima

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    I personally believe the prophecies of Isaiah 3 are coming to fruition currently. Jerusalem being the Catholic church and Judah being the west in general. Part of the prophecy appears to be that so many men in the west die from war, that there will be seven women for every man left.
     
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  18. padraig

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    The poor Church is about to be taken off to a Babylonian Captivity. Like the poor Chinese sisters and brothers already endure. We will loose Rome and we will appear to have no Pope.

    The Catholic Church will appear to cease to exist.

    Happily this situation, through the intercession of the Mother of God will be relatively brief.

    Though it will appear that we are lost.
     
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  19. padraig

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    I wish we Catholics were more tuned into our own personal relationship with Jesus Christ rather than the whole organization thing. This would stand us in good stead when the entire corrupt pervert dominated ship sinks without trace.
     
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  20. Pax Prima

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    Thank God both Jesus and Mary tell us they are always will us. Keep your eyes on the Prize and run a good race.
    This seems to be the way of saints. So in love with God they just kept seeking him. I once heard the difference between a saint and a non saint is that a saint sees opportunity in suffering. May these coming times be ones where we glorify God regardless of circumstances.
     
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