BREAKING: Pope Francis reportedly set to ask Bishop Strickland to resign!

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  1. Blizzard

    Blizzard thy kingdom come

    Amazing prophecies given to Teresa Musco, stigmatist in the 1950s - 1970s concerning the Church and the world.

    Eerily similar to Akita, which came later.

    “Satan will reach the top of the church “.

     
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  2. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Awesome video. Thank you.
     
  3. AED

    AED Powers

    Wow. Thank you for posting.
     
  4. padraig

    padraig Powers

    One thing comforts me about all this; terrible as it all is will pass and from what I have read, fairly quickly. This is not all forever and ever.
     
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  5. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    The great fear is that Pope Francis has appointed a huge phalanx of heretical cardinals, waiting in the wings for the next conclave, in order to vote in Pope Francis II. But, if Cardinal Gerhard Mueller is one such appointment, maybe there will be many more like him.

    We complain about how quiet the cardinals and bishops are, with only the usual few sticking their heads above the parapet (and some getting them lopped off). However, there doesn't seem to be a huge number of these Francis-appointed cardinals rowing in to support his actions. Maybe, there are, and I'm missing something, but his support base seems quite narrow. Maybe someone can enlighten me, if I'm just engaging in wishful thinking.
     
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  6. Michael_Pio

    Michael_Pio Archangels

    I had recently come around to your position, having read the interview with Cardinal Mueller. Thank you for the note regarding your natural father, that was quite convincing. Now, I have read the letter by Archbishop Vigano of October 2023, and I am in two minds again. There is a lot of information to process, and I am trying to be careful to come to a conclusion.

    I do think the question is relevant, though. As Catholics, we owe some form of obedience to the Holy Father. We have to take his statements very seriously, even if they are not ex cathedra. For example, Pope Francis said we have a moral obligation to take abortion-tainted genetic experiments, called "Covid-vaccines". I did not think so, not for a moment. Instead, I thought: "What an awful statement coming from this man, who is possibly an impostor."

    After reading Windswept House in 2018, right up to 2023, I had been internally convinced that Pope Benedict is the Holy Father. This question does have relevance for us laity, as we need to know whom to follow, Pope Benedict or "Pope Francis". They contradict each other regarding several sacraments, in particular marriage (Amoris Laetitia is questionable), the Most Holy Sacrament of the Altar (Summorum Pontificum vs. Traditiones Custodes, i.e. Traditional Latin Mass vs Novus Ordo) and Holy Orders (Pope Benedict and Cardinal Sarah wrote "From the Depths of Our Hearts" whereas "Pope Francis" seems to want to ordain women as "priests".

    So the pope question does have relevance for us, even though it should be the prelates job to address it. But the hierarchy has largely been silent on this matter between 2018 and 2023. There was an interview by Cardinal Burke, with the New York Times I think, some years ago. In it, His Eminence stated that Pope Francis is indeed Pope, but he did not really address some of the main questions, such as the resignation of Pope Benedict and the goings-on around the election of Pope Francis. Only recently have these questions been addressed by the hierarchy, namely by Cardinal Mueller, Archbishop Vigano and Bishop Schneider.

    Just today I have very carefully read the October 2023 letter by Archbishop Vigano on this matter. I am still weighing up things, and I admit I have been wavering between the two sides, but I am trying to be extra-careful on this all-important question. Remember that Archbishop Vigano warned us in one of his letters about the "Covid-vaccines", and very early on. Here is his letter on the papacy question, which I find convincing:

    https://insidethevatican.com/news/newsflash/letter-132-2023-monday-october-2-vigano/

    I agree with you, we have no right to declare who is the Holy Father. But we have to take an internal position as to whom to follow, or what to make of the current occupant of the Chair of St. Peter. This is why I soak up every discussion point on this forum regarding this matter, by you, Padraig, BrianK, etc. After reading Vigano, I am back to being skeptical about whether "Pope Francis" is truly the Pope.

    This is a big question. I cannot possibly imagine, for example, that the Chair of St. Peter has been empty since 1958, as some claim. This would mean the Holy Catholic Church failed, which is biblically impossible. But I do think a sede vacante is possible for a few months, since 31 December 2022. God may be allowing this as a chastisement. And the world is in fact in free-fall. It reminds me of the St. Malachi (St. Philip Neri)-prophecy about the Popes. About Pope Francis: "He will sit in the extreme persecution of the Holy Roman Church." (The rest of the prophecy, the Petrus Romanus stuff, are additions not written by St. Philip Neri.)

    I do very much value your input, as I value that of the others here. We have such a wonderful platform in this forum, much charity and kindness, even when discussing controversial matters.

    God bless!
     
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  7. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    All these cardinals and bishops insisting there is 'no deposit of faith' are proclaiming themselves to be a right bunch of shysters, taking all their substantial pay, perks and privileges under false pretenses. If what they say is true, there is no justification for apostolic succession of bishops, so they're all a bunch of squatters in their palaces. We need to look for the backmoney that was paid to them. And the interest.
     
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  8. Luan Ribeiro

    Luan Ribeiro Powers

    The next conclave will be a great test for heart patients, especially when the cardinal protodeacon appears on the balcony.
     
  9. AED

    AED Powers

    Well said.
     
  10. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers


    This article by Edward Pentin clarifies all of the questions people raise.
    https://edwardpentin.co.uk/perspect...tanding-the-crisis-and-where-we-go-from-here/
    posted by Heidi on the Pope Francis thread
     
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  11. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Thank you.

    Really, really beautiful pictures of Our Lady in this video.
     
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  12. PurpleFlower

    PurpleFlower Powers

    I admire your very careful consideration of things. We are all trying our best to make sense of these awful times. I agree with Archbishop Vigano on some particular things, but I don't tend to follow what he says because he has broken an oath and is operating outside the hierarchy of the Church. His tone is very harsh and accusative as well, which to me indicates a lack of peace.
     
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  13. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    Pope Francis is a symptom of a problem that goes back to the council or even before the council. The rot has continued, broadened and deepened.

    Only the direct intervention of God can save his church. It is like a ship with multiple holes taking in water and the sails are down.
     
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  14. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    https://edwardpentin.co.uk/perspect...tanding-the-crisis-and-where-we-go-from-here/

    You would appreciate this article, then.
     
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  15. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    I feel exactly the way you do about Abp Vigano.
     
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  16. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    Anyone going to see the new movie - 'STRICKLAND UNLEASHED'?

    Thanks to Pope Francis lol
     
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  17. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    This is one sacking that is going to backfire!!
     
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  18. "The removal of Bishop Joseph Strickland has shaken many in the Church. But it has an impact far beyond what many think. Fr. Chad Ripperger explains why this not only shouldn't surprise us, but he tells us that things will probably get worse."
     
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  19. padraig

    padraig Powers

    At the end of the day , really, the the laser eyes of our hearts our turned to ourselves..

    TO what we are doing, not what other people are doing.

    We are never going to be sent to hell for the mistakes of others.

    SO as far as Judgement is concerned our very most severe judgements are as regards ourselves.

    Nevertheless I suppose we must keep one eyes peeked on our Shepherds.

    I love very much what one Italian writer wrote about the Church,

    'The Church is the Cross on which Christ is nailed'.

    I know very,very, very terrible things are going on in the Church at the moment. Certainly I myself would think are the most terrible , the most awful things in the entire history of our dear Church.

    Our dear Holy Mother the Church.

    But at the same time spiritually it is about our own living real relationship with Jesus. nothing about this has changed.

    Me and Jesus.

    Jesus and me.

    This continues

    The storms going on around us carry on. But for myself and Jesus, there is only peace.

     

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