BREAKING: Pope Francis reportedly set to ask Bishop Strickland to resign!

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  1. BrianK

    BrianK Powers Staff Member

    Nope. Wrong!

    The Church has ALWAYS dealt with antipopes while they were usurping the Chair or Peter!

    To wait till after their death would be willful if not diabolical malfeasance, because the damage they could do is astronomical.

    Bergoglio needs to be dealt with NOW, not in some murky future.

    If Churchmen refuse their duty and obligation to do so, God will directly intervene in human affairs to right the Barque of Peter.

    In fact, it looks like that is an integral part of the Minor Chastisement and the Triumph.

    And pointing out the grim reality of an antipope in our time is NOT to “leave the Church” or somehow abandon her.

    It is to fight faithfully and with courage FOR her.
     
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  2. Mario

    Mario Powers

    They may not be confused in regard to worldly ways, but I would cringe to view such ungodly prelates on their deathbeds with the demons circling about! :eek::barefoot: I pray that they may yet repent!

    Lord have mercy upon Your Church, especially the hierarchy!
     
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  3. AED

    AED Powers

    It reminds me of the scripture "there is a way that seems right to a man but it ends in damnation"
    I recently heard a priest explain the heresy of process theology--very popular with many so called theologians and many prelates. Even the pope. Very Teihardian. In effect everything evolves. Everything changes. According to Cardinal Roche "there is no deposit of faith"---how shocking is that???? In other words we needn't protect the deposit of faith because in their minds it doesn't exist. This orientation toward a Teihardian world view explains a lot. Process theology is that "angel from heaven" bringing a scripture different from the one we received from Christ. Anathema. I do believe like St Paul we may resist "Peter" to his face in this heretical diabolical distortion of our faith.
     
  4. padraig

    padraig Powers

    FIRST CORINTHIANS 14:33

    …for God is not a God of confusion…but He is a God of peace (rather than

    disorder)…(and it is His way to produce the fruit of the Spirit) in all the churches of the saints.
     
  5. padraig

    padraig Powers

    There are many saintly ones. Cardinal Mueller is a diamond.

    I just wonder what they are really thinking deep in their minds and hearts when they think about things.

    I would guess they smell the smoke of hell just as much as anyone else.

     
  6. Michael_Pio

    Michael_Pio Archangels

    There is a vision of Anna Katharina Emmerich which sort of relates to that. I am quoting it off the cuff:

    In her vision, Blessed Sr. Emmerich saw a dark sect among the clergy deconstructing St. Peter's in Rome, stone by stone. The members of the sect did not actually remove any stones themselves, but they pointed at things to be removed with their trowels. Then, naïve well-meaning people carried out the work of destruction. Some others were trying to rebuild the Basilica of St. Peter, but they worked without vigour, proudly showing off every little stone they brought, however sluggishly.

    Then, suddenly, Our Lady appears at St. Peter's square. She spreads her mantle over the Basilica. The destruction work stops. The bad prelates are dismissed and walk off in shame. A new, young, strict, and very holy Supreme Pontiff is elected.

    The destruction of the Basilica is examined. It is found badly damaged, but the main altar has remained intact. So, the Basilica can be rebuilt whilst it can still be considered a valid Basilica.

    The vision is metaphorical. I think St. Peter's Basilica represents the Holy Catholic Church as a whole.
     
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  7. Michael_Pio

    Michael_Pio Archangels

    I understand where you are coming from. Ann Barnhardt addresses this very point in her video, which unfortunately is lengthy and contains a bit of rambling. But it does have substance. She addresses the very question you are pointing out - whether we laymen should remain silent or whether we should speak out.

    The question of whether "Pope Francis" is the Holy Father is an objective one. Subjectively, we are not really in a position to address it, this much is true. It is perhaps the responsibility of the prelates of the Holy Catholic Church (although Bishop Schneider seems to say that nobody is in a position to address this question because there is no legal remedy to resolve it).

    The holy prelates who did speak about the topic, such as Cardinal Burke, Cardinal Mueller (as I recall), and Bishop Schneider, apparently, have not publicly fully talked about some points:

    - the validity of the resignation of Pope Benedict;
    - the election of "Pope Francis" facilitated by the St. Gallen Mafia; and
    - whether "Pope Francis" (in case he is the Pope) has promulgated heresy and, if so, the consequences of this.

    There is objective evidence that suggests that perhaps "Pope Francis" may potentially not be the Holy Father:

    - Pope Benedict did not wish to resign the contemplative/spiritual part of the papacy, and it is questionable whether the office of Supreme Pontiff is divisible;
    - the election of "Pope Francis" was facilitated by the St. Gallen Mafia and it is questionable whether this election is valid according to the constitution on papal elections by St. JP II;
    - "Pope Francis" worshipped the Pachamama-idol publicly on the very grave of St. Peter (the Vatican gardens);
    - etc., etc. pp.

    Yes, we are not in a position to determine with certainty that "Pope Francis" is not actually the Holy Father, I agree with you. But for ourselves, at least, we need to consider which Pope we follow:

    a) the Popes up to and including Pope Benedict; or
    b) "Pope Francis".

    I think a) and b) are irreconcilable. For example, we can compare, on the topic of the Traditional Latin Mass vs. the Novus Ordo:

    a) Summorum Pontificum and Quo Primum with
    b) Traditiones Custodes

    I do think that a) and b) contradict each other.

    We can also consider whether or not we really have a moral obligation to take abortion-tainted genetic experiments called "Covid-vaccines", which we do, according to "Pope Francis". These are questions of life and death (regarding eternal life concerning the Holy Liturgy, and regarding physical life concerning the "vaccines").

    According to a scientific paper that was forced to be retraced and then got republished, as I understand, the vaccine-related excess mortality number for one country (U.S.A.) and one year (2021) alone was over 300,000. I may have misunderstood this, I am not an expert. But, if true, consider the worldwide effect across several years.

    We need to consider for ourselves, and I think we should also share our view with our brethren here on this forum. I do agree, though, that wording is important, and perhaps we should be more careful as to how we phrase things.

    I very much agree with you to try to gentle as doves but wise as serpents and to be careful not to get caught looking through the wrong lens. We cannot bet our soul and end up being wrong. For example, at the risk of sounding self-contradictory, when Pope Francis declared a Year of Mercy, I gladly went through the Door of Mercy at our local Cathedral and also at St. Peter's in Rome. When he declared a Year of St. Joseph, I was very happy about it. When I first heard that Pope Francis intended to consecrate Russia to the Immaculate Heart, I was stoked (although less so when I read the prayer he composed, with had much political fluff). But I did take part in the consecration by praying along, together with our entire parish.

    It is definitely a tricky question. I am inclined to think that Pope Francis was installed to pretend and to destroy, but as you said, we cannot judge.

    May our Good Lord and our Holy Mother bless you muchly, and all here on this forum!
     
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  8. Sam

    Sam Powers




    It is true that St. Peter denied Jesus three times, as Jesus predicted.

    “Simon, Simon, behold Satan has demanded to sift all of you* like wheat,s32but I have prayed that your own faith may not fail; and once you have turned back, you must strengthen your brothers.”

    Peter wept bitterly over his denial of Jesus, unfortunately I don't see any one in the Vatican repenting of their errors and turning back to Jesus.
     
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  9. Mario

    Mario Powers

    At the 50 minute mark, Fr. Ripperger brings up an important point: we are on information overload due to technology. We have to be detached from what we as individuals cannot change (apart from prayer and fasting). A faithful Catholic from centuries ago would learn of some controversy in the hierarchy some time later, perhaps after it was already resolved. But he would have already done his part in his pursuit of holiness. Father states it is actually a huge problem when we know when the Pope sneezes: we get too caught up in the controversy which can distract us from affecting those whom the Lord desires us to impact.

    I think of the readings in this Sunday's Holy Mass which point out the beauty of the Holy Spirit's gift of wisdom. I believe Bishop Strickland's peaceful and non-combative response to his removal from the Diocese of Tyler demonstrated such wisdom. Perhaps I'm wrong, but I sensed disappointment in the interviewer, John Henry, that the good bishop is not taking a more combative approach with a touch of resistance. Such an example of already moving on and asking, "What now, Lord?", encouraged me. There was no sense of fear and timidity, but of peace.

    From today's first reading on wisdom:

    Whoever watches for her at dawn shall not be disappointed, for he shall find her sitting by his gate. For taking thought of wisdom is the perfection of prudence, and whoever for her sake keeps vigil shall quickly be free from care...

    I think Bishop Strickland was refreshingly prudent.

    Mary, Seat of Wisdom, pray for us!
     
  10. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    I agree with Fr Ripperger that too much info is available. I also agree that it is a huge problem.
     
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  11. Michael_Pio

    Michael_Pio Archangels

    I must admit, Padraig, at the risk of sounding self-contradictory regarding my previous posts, that I very much tend to agree with you. There is this inner conviction I have, ever since reading "Windswept House" in 2018. I think along the same lines as you.
     
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  12. Malachi

    Malachi Powers

    I will say this and not too much more as I've enjoyed some whiskies. There was once a mighty stroke of lightning....
     
  13. AED

    AED Powers

    Agree 100%
     
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  14. djmoforegon

    djmoforegon Powers

    Thinking along the same line, though without the whiskies…


     
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  15. Michael_Pio

    Michael_Pio Archangels

    My apologies for multi-posting again. This matter is just so relevant for us. Here is an interesting link regarding an interview by LifeSiteNews with Cardinal Gerhard Mueller which I just saw:

    https://web.archive.org/web/2023110...ttered-material-heresy-but-is-still-the-pope/

    His Eminence Cardinal Mueller argues along the same lines as His Excellency Bishop Athanasius Schneider.

    Regarding the validity of the election of Pope Francis, it appears that John Paul II’s Apostolic Constitution Universi Dominici Gregis may have been specifically pointed out in the original German interview. (I do not have the text of the original German interview conducted by Maike Hickson et al.) Still, Cardinal Mueller says that "even if there were deficiencies… they have simply been de facto cured by the exercise [of the office].”

    This may lead me to revisit my view. It is noteworthy that Gerhard Mueller was created Cardinal by Pope Francis, in 2014.

    It appears that Cardinal Mueller also discussed the question of papal heresies. Again, he arrived at similar conclusions as Bishop Schneider.

    God bless!
     
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    She is the key to everything.
     
  17. God himself will bring about the Triumph of the Immaculate Heart.
    No one on earth will be able to claim credit for defeating the heresies.
    The Triumph will be far greater than darkness that precedes it.

    It will get darker before the dawn.
    Imagine how the Apostles felt when the very son of God was killed.

    How utterly devastating the desolation!

    How glorious was the Resurrection!

    Have faith, God is in charge.
    Rejoice and praise God that he allowed us to live during this present darkness so as to have some share in his suffering!
     
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  18. Byron

    Byron Powers

    Agree! It’s all coming together and the wolves have shown themselves. We are witnessing the unveiling of evil. Pope Francis is the Pope, but he is a very bad Pope. His agenda is evil. And our world and the Church will suffer more. But what can we do? We can do what Jesus did during his agony in the garden. Pray, Pray, Pray. Let go, let God. I believe in the prophecies. All this was predicted long ago. It’s supposed to happen. What the devil wants is a schism. Hold on tight. Buckle up. Just don’t give in. We do exactly what God expects from us. Prayer and fasting, going to Mass and Confession, receiving the Eucharist, and loving each other is what He wants us to focus on. Let the Warning put this Pope and his pals in their rightful place.
     
  19. MetAn

    MetAn Angels

    The pope never used his signature to teach heresy but his actions and his words are constantly heresy . So it is not formal heresy ??

    Dear Padraig. I will keep praying for you. God raised people like you for a certain time like this. Thank you for your courage to speak that truth, may Almighty God rewards you abundantly. Be prepared for the persecution. They will be coming after you.
     
  20. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Ezekiel 2:4-10

    4 So I am sending you to those who are a]">[a]impudent and obstinate children, and you shall say to them, ‘This is what the Lord b]">[b]God says:’ 5 As for them, whether they listen or c]">[c]not—for they are a rebellious house—they will know that a prophet has been among them. 6 And as for you, son of man, you are not to fear them nor fear their words, though thistles and thorns are with you and you sit on scorpions; you are not to fear their words nor be dismayed at their presence, since they are a rebellious house. 7 But you shall speak My words to them whether they listen or d]">[d]not, for they are rebellious.

    8 “Now you, son of man, listen to what I am speaking to you; do not be rebellious like that rebellious house. Open your mouth wide and eat what I am giving you.” 9 Then I looked, and behold, a hand was extended to me; and behold, a e]">[e]scroll was in it. 10 When He spread it out before me, it was written on the front and back, and written on it were songs of mourning, sighing, and woe.


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