I am thinking about the impact that the final document of this first assembly will have when it is sent to dioceses around the world. A new fuel for the German synodal revolution?
From DeGaulle's above post: That notification [to New Ways Ministry], signed by Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, the future Pope Benedict XVI, said that their positions “regarding the intrinsic evil of homosexual acts and the objective disorder of the homosexual inclination are doctrinally unacceptable because they do not faithfully convey the clear and constant teaching of the Catholic Church in this area.” Luke 19:41 And when he drew near and saw the city he wept over it, 42 saying, “Would that even today you knew the things that make for peace! But now they are hid from your eyes. Dare I add: the things that make for friendship with God. After all, at the last supper, Jesus stated: John 15: 14 You are my friends if you do what I command you. 15 No longer do I call you servants,for the servant does not know what his master is doing; but I have called you friends, for all that I have heard from my Father I have made known to you. Obedience has become burdensome in the lexicon of this Pontificate!! Thus doctrine is seen as a barrier to friendship with God and obedience an elusive goal!
Synod on Synodality: Who Will Be Writing the Crucial Summary Report of the Synod? Chief spokesman Paolo Ruffini told reporters last week that the drafters are assisted by collaborators called ‘sherpas’ and added that ‘it makes no sense to give their names.’ https://www.ncregister.com/news/syn...iting-the-crucial-summary-report-of-the-synod
Oh, I guess you haven't heard yet? According to Bergoglio, the "dear Lord" is not going "to come save us." No, he says that we must save ourselves. - I like the word “crisis” because it contains inner movement. Yet, the only way out from a crisis is upward, there is no easy way out. The way out is upward and never on our own. Those who intend to emerge alone from a crisis, turn the way out into a labyrinth that goes round and round. A crisis is a labyrinth. Also, a crisis makes you grow. Whether it’s a person, a family, a country or a civilization in crisis, if it is solved well, there is growth. I’m concerned when problems turn to themselves and there seems to be no way out. We must teach young boys and girls to be able to manage a crisis. To solve a crisis. Because that instills maturity. We were all unexperienced young people once, and sometimes young boys and girls hold onto miracles, to a messiah, to things being solved in a messianic way. There is only one Messiah who saved us all. The rest are all clowns of messianism. None of them can promise a solution to conflicts, unless it’s emerging upward from the crisis. And never on our own. Let’s think of any kind of political crisis, in a country that doesn’t know what to do, there are many in Europe. What can be done? Shall we look for a messiah to come save us? No. We must find where the conflict is and solve it. There is wisdom is the management of a crisis. But you can’t move forward without a conflict. https://www.telam.com.ar/notas/2023...y-of-the-universal-dialogue-that-we-need.html
Theologian at Synod on Synodality: There’s ‘too much emphasis’ on women priests “As a woman, I’m not focused at all on the fact that I’m not a priest,” Renée Köhler-Ryan, one of 54 women delegates to the Synod on Synodality, said at a press briefing Oct. 17, 2023. / Credit: Daniel Ibañez/CNA Rome Newsroom, Oct 17, 2023 / 14:10 pm (CNA). Spending too much time on the “niche issue” of women priests or deacons distracts the Church from addressing what women really need, a theologian participating in the Synod on Synodality said Tuesday. “As a woman, I’m not focused at all on the fact that I’m not a priest,” Renée Köhler-Ryan, one of 54 women delegates to the Synod on Synodality, said at a press briefing Oct. 17. “I think that there’s too much emphasis placed on this question,” the Catholic professor added. “And what happens when we put too much emphasis on this question is that we forget about what women, for the most part, throughout the world, need.” Köhler-Ryan is head of the School of Philosophy and Theology at the University of Notre Dame in Sydney, Australia. She participated in the Church in Australia’s plenary council and is writing a forthcoming book on St. Edith Stein’s “Essays on Woman.” Paolo Ruffini, president of the synod’s information commission, told journalists that synod discussions on the afternoon of Oct. 16 focused a lot on the role of women in the Church, including whether women should be able to preach the homily at Mass and the “reinstatement of the female diaconate.” Another topic of discussion, he said, was “how to overcome clerical models that impede communion or that can impede the communion of all the baptized.” Köhler-Ryan said “some people are very focused on this idea that only if women become ordained will they have any kind of equality.” But, equality is “not a one for one thing” in the Church, she said, pointing out that the Synod on Synodality has focused a lot on the idea of unity in diversity. “Well part of that diversity is that there are realities of motherhood and fatherhood that are both spiritual and biological and that are really important for understanding what is going on across the whole Church,” the wife and mother added. She said the issue of women’s ordination “distracts” the Church from what it could be doing to help women in other ways, like offering greater support to families and working mothers. “I think that’s a far more interesting conversation for most women than what I tend to think of as a kind of niche issue,” Köhler-Ryan said. Köhler-Ryan’s comments came shortly after another delegate described women’s participation in the Synod on Synodality, where they are full voting members for the first time, as “setting the stage for future changes.” Sister Maria de los Dolores Valencia Gomez, a Sister of St. Joseph, led the Synod on Synodality assembly Oct. 13 in her capacity as one of Pope Francis’ 10 president-delegates. She described the experience of sitting with the pope “as a symbol of this opening, this wish that the Church has … for something that places all of us at the same level.” Another synod participant, one of 13 people tasked with helping put together a summary document of the Oct. 4–29 assembly, told the National Catholic Reporter last week that he would be open to a female diaconate. “The question of the ordination of women is clearly something that needs to be addressed universally. … And if it were to be that the outcome was for ordination to the diaconate to be open to women, I’d certainly welcome that,” Bishop Shane Mackinlay of Sandhurst, Australia, said in a podcast interview. Ruffini said Monday’s discussions also included requests for “greater attention to an inclusive language in the liturgy and ecclesial documents” and that the word “cooperate” in canon 208 of the Code of Canon Law, which says all Christians “cooperate in the building up of the Body of Christ according to each one’s own condition and function,” be changed to “co-responsibility.” On “the possible reinstatement of the female diaconate,” Ruffini said there was reference to first studying the exact nature of the diaconate. About women deacons, Köhler-Ryan said what the synod is “identifying at the moment is where there needs to be more theological consideration of different issues, and I think I can safely say this is one where there needs to be more consideration, knowing that this has been an issue that has been looked at before.” During his pontificate, Pope Francis has formed two temporary commissions to study the question of women deacons. The first, in 2016, examined the historic question of the role of deaconesses in the early Church. In 2019, it was announced that the 12-person commission had not reached any consensus on the question. In April 2020, the pope formed a second commission after the topic of female deacons was discussed at the Amazon Synod the prior October, together with a request for the 2016 commission to be reestablished. At the end of the October 2019 meeting, synod members recommended to Pope Francis that women be considered for certain ministries in the Church, including the permanent diaconate, which is an order within the sacrament of holy orders. But in his apostolic exhortation on the Amazon, published in February 2020, Pope Francis called for women in the South American region to be included in new forms of service in the Church, but not within the ordained ministries of the permanent diaconate or priesthood. The subject of women deacons has previously been studied by the Church, including in a 2002 document from the International Theological Commission (ITC), an advisory body to the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. In the document, the ITC concluded that female deacons in the early Church had not been equivalent to male deacons and had neither a “liturgical function” nor a sacramental one. It also maintained that even in the fourth century, “the way of life of deaconesses was very similar to that of nuns.” https://www.ewtn.no/theologian-at-synod-on-synodality-theres-too-much-emphasis-on-women-priests/
No openness or accountability with these people, which they would very dramatically demand of the rest of us in a corresponding situation.
That's a complete and utter change of meaning, right there. I interpret that 'all Christians cooperate' with one another. To assert co-responsibility is to place oneself as equal to Christ. Perhaps we might start by crucifying Ruffini. Of course, 'co-responsibility' would lend these luciferians the authority to call the shots exactly as they would want it. This would represent a complete transfer of power from God and His commandments to those humanly best at grabbing it. These people are satan's army. No other conclusion is possible to take from their words and actions. The Church is in far worse shape than I thought, as they seem to be running the show with impunity.
Good for Kohler-Ryan. Explains biological reality and the fraudity of 'equality' very clearly and shows up the male feminist, Bishop Mackinlay as the fool that he is.
A link to cheer us up, from the great Father Z: https://wdtprs.com/2023/10/sometimes-youve-just-had-enough-of-the-stupid/
But, I thought it was those who said the Rosary that were Pelagians. This pope has an opinion on everything and a different one for each member of the audience.
You remember that some medieval heresies advocated the abolition of the hierarchy, for example, Catharism and Joachimism; the latter preached the arrival of the Age of the Holy Spirit, in which the church hierarchy would no longer be necessary. I think we are close to witnessing something similar.
The requests for more inclusive language in the liturgy also caught my attention. This reminds me of the prophecies that talk about a sacrilegious and invalid liturgy that would be the suppression of the perpetual sacrifice.
I fear this Luan. The loss of the Holy Sacrifice. And not by pagan armies but by the very ones entrusted to safeguard it. The scribes and pharisees of our day.
This has been a contest for some time! If you read the biography of Mother Angelica, she was informed at a late hour that the USA English edition of the 1992 Catechism was ready to be approved with extensive use of inclusive language. This had been promoted by a number of USA bishops. Mother Angelica quickly arranged a flight to Rome and cornered Cardinal Ratzinger and gave him her two cents. The inclusive language in the USA edition was eliminated. May the soul of Mother Angelica and all her deceased sister nuns rest in peace!
The current situation seems more dangerous considering the person in charge of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.
