The Antichrist is Here

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by Fatima, Mar 12, 2019.


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    He works for the Antichrist then.
     
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  2. Luan Ribeiro

    Luan Ribeiro Powers

    There was a time when I thought that a select number of Freemasonry members around the world knew who the individual was who would take on the role of Antichrist; however, today I think that they will see the fulfillment of the prophecies in him when specific signs emerge around his ministry in the world. In my opinion, there will be something diametrically opposite to the Sign of the White Dove in the Baptism of Our Lord by the hands of Saint John the Baptist.
     
  3. PNF

    PNF Archangels

    https://padreperegrino.org/2023/09/mtsolf/

    From St. Francis of Assisi?

    The devils will have unusual power, the immaculate purity of our Order, and of others, will be so much obscured that there will be very few Christians who will obey the true Sovereign Pontiff and the Roman Church with loyal hearts and perfect charity. At the time of this tribulation a man, not canonically elected, will be raised to the Pontificate, who, by his cunning, will endeavour to draw many into error and death.
    "not canonically elected" + "raised to the Pontificate" = Antipope

    From 2 Thessalonians 2:

    3 Let no man deceive you by any means, for unless there come a revolt first, and the man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition, 4 Who opposeth, and is lifted up above all that is called God, or that is worshipped, so that he sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself as if he were God. ​

    From St. Thomas Aquinas (https://aquinas.cc/la/en/~2Thess.C2.L1.n40):

    But in what temple? Was it not destroyed by the Romans? This is why some say that the Antichrist is from the tribe of Dan, whose tribe is not named among the other twelve in Revelation (Rev 7:5). Because of this, the Jews will accept him at first, and will rebuild the temple in Jerusalem, and thus Daniel will be fulfilled: an abomination and an idol will be in the temple (Dan 9:27). But when you see the abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel the prophet standing in the holy place, let him who reads understand (Matt 24:15).

    But some say that neither Jerusalem nor the temple will ever be rebuilt, but that their desolation will last until the final consummation. And even some Jews believe this. So this text is explained to mean in the temple of God, i.e., in the Church, since many from the church will accept him. Or according to Augustine, he sits in the temple of God, i.e., he rules and governs as though he himself with his messengers were the temple of God, as Christ is the temple with his adherents.​
     
  4. EricH

    EricH Archangels

    The pope is not the antichrist. Give it up.
     
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  5. PNF

    PNF Archangels

    I never said "the Pope" is the Antichrist. That could never happen.

    I said, following St. Francis of Assisi, that "an Antipope" is the Antichrist.
     
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  6. Sunnyveil

    Sunnyveil Archangels

    Hypothetically since Catholics believe that evil but valid popes can exist, is it possible a Catholic pope could be the false prophet, the anti John the Baptist, who appears just before the anti-Christ?
     
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  7. PNF

    PNF Archangels


    St. Francis of Assisi (continued):


    Those who preserve their fervour and adhere to virtue with love and zeal for the truth, will suffer injuries and, persecutions as rebels and schismatics; for their persecutors, urged on by the evil spirits, will say they are rendering a great service to God by destroying such pestilent men from the face of the earth. But the Lord will be the refuge of the afflicted, and will save all who trust in Him. And in order to be like their Head [Jesus Christ], these, the elect, will act with confidence, and by their death will purchase for themselves eternal life; choosing to obey God rather than man, they will fear nothing, and they will prefer to perish [physically] rather than consent to falsehood and perfidy.

    Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it under foot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor, but a destroyer.
    Why would the good people who resist the Antichrist be called "schismatics?" And what's this about Jesus not sending a "true Pastor?" Who is the "true Pastor" if not the Supreme Pontiff? So, that would mean that Jesus sends NOT a true Supreme Pontiff but a false Supreme Pontiff, a False Prophet, a destroyer, because his people "consent to falsehood and perfidy" (see 2 Thessalonians 2:11).
     
  8. PNF

    PNF Archangels

    No, Sunnyveil. A true Pope is not the False Prophet/Antichrist. An invalid, unlawfully-elected papal claimant is the False Prophet/Antichrist.

    Daniel 11 mentions him:

    21 And there shall stand up in his place one despised, and the kingly honour shall not be given him: and he shall come privately, and shall obtain the kingdom by fraud.
     
  9. The antichrist will be spiritually mature (in a negative sense). Not this clown.
     
  10. EricH

    EricH Archangels

    The pope is not the antichrist.
     
  11. Byron

    Byron Powers

    Let’s be truthful here, this Pope is quite an enigma. I believe in the prophecy that Antichrist will fool even the elect. Who could fool the “elect”? Not someone from a Jewish background. The end times is about the Catholic Church, and not the land of Israel. I think it’s quite possible Antichrist may very well be inside the Vatican. If the evil one can infiltrate the Vatican, and sit on the seat of Peter, he can rule the world. The last straw for me with this Pope was his affectionate meeting with Bill Clinton. I was sickened.
     
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  12. Byron

    Byron Powers

    Protestants may get a lot wrong, but their zeal for Christ is evident worldwide. They are growing in numbers. Instead, we are losing our faith. God has a way of teaching us humility. He may be using his Protestant children to wake us up. A Pope who preaches in a confusing way only discredits our religion. I think this is what is meant when prophecy says, that our Church will be going through the passion. What comes first in the Bible is the unity of all Christian Churches. Maybe that’s the focus of the end times. The end of the world may be when the conversion of the Jews occurs, but that’s not now. I don’t think.
     
  13. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Yes. Although I wonder since the anti Christ is the mirror opposite of Jesus in everything ,would his forerunner, his John the Baptist, so to speak not also have to be Jewish. Also the 12 Disciples he gathers around him as his, 'Apostles', would they not have to be Jewish too?

    Also of course the Anti Christ is to be Born in the Holy land.

    I would say quite a lot of present and recent World Leaders have characteristics of show shadows of the anti Christ. Justin Trudeau in Canada, or Barrack Obama in the USA are good examples of this. Charismatic, rich, good looking, smart, young and totally ammoral.
     
  14. jackzokay

    jackzokay Powers

    I never thought about it quite like that before... the anti-christ having disciples. That's a sobering thought. Those names you mention - there seems almost to be a cohort of them, and their like-minded peers. My skin crawls when I hear them speak. And they all sing from the same hymn sheet
     
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  15. AED

    AED Powers

    Yes. They all sing from the same hymn sheet. Well said.
     
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  16. Carmel333

    Carmel333 Powers

    I think people tend to assign the AntiChrist role to whatever public figure that is popular, rich, and against Christ which of course can amount to thousands in this day and age. But we need to remember that this person would not only fool the religion haters and atheists, but ALSO the very faithful like us if we are not on our guard. I don't think any human whatever their station could do this. I believe it would HAVE to be a "new" creature, introduced to us as our creator, and who came to us to " Testify to the Truth" as Christ did when He told Pontius Pilate why He came here when His Kingdom was not from this world. In other words, an Alien, who is beautiful to our eyes, capable of defying natures laws causing miracles, and who claims to come to us to tell us the Truth about who we are, why we are here, and what is expected of us, etc... This beautiful all powerful alien who is kind to us, claims to want to help us in all things, and tells us all what we want to hear, is exactly the sort of power that could definitely bewitch not only the lonely, poor, addicts, sinners who don't want to give up their sin, but world powers who crave new technology and success in their countries. Many , many Catholics today pooh-pooh the strict teachings of the Church regarding things as sexuality, birth control, divorce, modest dressing, fasting, hell, punishment, Confession, etc.. etc... These are the people without discipline or loyalty to Christ who will definitely shed their religion and hop on board the Anti Christ train. So personally, I think it will be demons posing as Aliens who will come and seduce this world. We are already being prepared for them.....
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  17. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Leo Varadakar and Riki Sunak are the same kind of stamp.

    Also the anti Christ will be incredibly rich and from a privleged back ground also as the Religious Leaders in Christ's time rejected him , the religious Leaders will accept the anti Christ.

    He will form a False Religion. Those who are building a False Church in Rome will flock to him.

    The Freemasons are the natural disciples of the anti Christ. They are his prophets.
     
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  18. Luan Ribeiro

    Luan Ribeiro Powers

    Revelation 13 says that the false prophet exercises all the authority of the beast in his presence; I believe this seems to indicate that the false prophet will imitate Moses, who exercised God's authority before the people and the elders (various religious leaders today?). Another point of opposition between them would be the power of the false prophet to make humanity worship the image of the beast. I believe that just as Moses came down the holy mountain bringing the tables of the law, the false prophet will bring death decrees to anyone who does not worship the image of the beast and follow his commandments.
     
  19. Luan Ribeiro

    Luan Ribeiro Powers

    Exodus 19

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    On the first day of the third month after the Israelites left Egypt—on that very day—they came to the Desert of Sinai. 2 After they set out from Rephidim, they entered the Desert of Sinai, and Israel camped there in the desert in front of the mountain.

    3 Then Moses went up to God, and the Lord called to him from the mountain and said, “This is what you are to say to the descendants of Jacob and what you are to tell the people of Israel: 4 ‘You yourselves have seen what I did to Egypt, and how I carried you on eagles’ wings and brought you to myself. 5 Now if you obey me fully and keep my covenant, then out of all nations you will be my treasured possession. Although the whole earth is mine, 6 you will be for me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation.’ These are the words you are to speak to the Israelites.”

    7 So Moses went back and summoned the elders of the people and set before them all the words the Lord had commanded him to speak. 8 The people all responded together, “We will do everything the Lord has said.” So Moses brought their answer back to the Lord.

    9 The Lord said to Moses, “I am going to come to you in a dense cloud, so that the people will hear me speaking with you and will always put their trust in you.” Then Moses told the Lord what the people had said.

    10 And the Lord said to Moses, “Go to the people and consecrate them today and tomorrow. Have them wash their clothes 11 and be ready by the third day, because on that day the Lord will come down on Mount Sinai in the sight of all the people. 12 Put limits for the people around the mountain and tell them, ‘Be careful that you do not approach the mountain or touch the foot of it. Whoever touches the mountain is to be put to death. 13 They are to be stoned or shot with arrows; not a hand is to be laid on them. No person or animal shall be permitted to live.’ Only when the ram’s horn sounds a long blast may they approach the mountain.”

    14 After Moses had gone down the mountain to the people, he consecrated them, and they washed their clothes. 15 Then he said to the people, “Prepare yourselves for the third day. Abstain from sexual relations.”

    16 On the morning of the third day there was thunder and lightning, with a thick cloud over the mountain, and a very loud trumpet blast. Everyone in the camp trembled. 17 Then Moses led the people out of the camp to meet with God, and they stood at the foot of the mountain. 18 Mount Sinai was covered with smoke, because the Lord descended on it in fire. The smoke billowed up from it like smoke from a furnace, and the whole mountain trembled violently. 19 As the sound of the trumpet grew louder and louder, Moses spoke and the voice of God answered him.

    20 The Lord descended to the top of Mount Sinai and called Moses to the top of the mountain. So Moses went up 21 and the Lord said to him, “Go down and warn the people so they do not force their way through to see the Lord and many of them perish. 22 Even the priests, who approach the Lord, must consecrate themselves, or the Lord will break out against them.”

    23 Moses said to the Lord, “The people cannot come up Mount Sinai, because you yourself warned us, ‘Put limits around the mountain and set it apart as holy.’”

    24 The Lord replied, “Go down and bring Aaron up with you. But the priests and the people must not force their way through to come up to the Lord, or he will break out against them.”

    25 So Moses went down to the people and told them.

    REVELATION 13:11-18

    11 Then I saw a second beast, coming out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb, but it spoke like a dragon. 12 It exercised all the authority of the first beast on its behalf, and made the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose fatal wound had been healed. 13 And it performed great signs, even causing fire to come down from heaven to the earth in full view of the people. 14 Because of the signs it was given power to perform on behalf of the first beast, it deceived the inhabitants of the earth. It ordered them to set up an image in honor of the beast who was wounded by the sword and yet lived. 15 The second beast was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed. 16 It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads, 17 so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name.

    18 This calls for wisdom. Let the person who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man. That number is 666.
     
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  20. Byron

    Byron Powers

    There’s only one true religion and leader. And the False Church is already here. The Synod is a good example of it.
     
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