Escalation - very worrying

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by garabandal, Dec 7, 2022.

  1. AED

    AED Powers

    Apparently Ukraine has a dark side--bio labs, human trafficking and money laundering. The people themselves are in the grip of evil leaders. Maybe its Russian propaganda but Putin's intent was to get rid of the bio labs and stop human trafficking. Only God knows the true causes of the conflict but if the evils mentioned above have been interrupted even stopped then good. Good for Ukraine. Good for the world.
     
  2. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    I have to agree with you. But I am not certain, perhaps the US was involved with that as well???? Only God knows.
     
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  3. Whatever

    Whatever Powers

    Every country has a dark side. Nurturing fascism and glossing over it by rebranding it as brave national heroism is like putting lipstick on a pig. Putin's plan is to prevent the balkanisation of Russia and to protect his country from NATO. To him, that's an existential threat. That makes him neither good nor bad. What we must be careful of is the age-old tactic of whipping up hatred against people we don't know. Dismissing Russia and Russians as backward and barely civilised ignores their Christian history.

    Yes, the Orthodox are in schism but they have valid Holy Orders and Apostolic succession with a valid Eucharist which only the Orthodox and Catholics have. It's sad that the Orthodox are plagued by secular interference in their internal affairs. That's not peculiar to Russia and is probably a holdover from Byzantine times. Their split from the Pope probably gave them security at the time of the Schism but it's proving to be an ever increasing burden for then in these times. Let's not forget that the US media (probably urged on by their government) celebrated the group of women whose only claim to fame was baring their breasts in Orthodox churches. There's a video of one of them (Ukrainian) exposing herself to Patriarch Kirill. Is there any wonder he doesn't want Western depravity taking a hold in Russia, even if it takes a war to protect his country. That doesn't make the Patriarch right, but it goes some way towards explaining his position.

    It's not just America. I don't know anything about Alastair Crooke. He could be evil personified for all I know, but in this interview with Judge Napolitano he makes more sense than most:



    The world is changing. Even if NATO prevails this time, change is coming. Already we see comments from people in the developing world demonising Americans and Europeans. The day is coming when we could be at the receiving end of the "nothing good about Americans/Europeans" slurs).

    We're Catholics first and we must resist that kind of broadbrush denouncing of people. We aren't brainwashed into hating Germans because Marx and Hitler were German (some say that Hitler was really Austrian but we aren't conditioned to hate Austrians and rubbish their culture). We don't demonise all Georgians because Stalin was Georgian. But somehow it's ok to sneer at Russians supposedly for the sake of democracy in Ukraine. This evil practice needs to stop, and that can begin with us. If we don't put a stop to those tactics now, we'll have no grounds for complaint when we're on the receiving end.
     
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  4. SteveD

    SteveD Powers

    I am not alone in seeing more and more similarities between Putin and Hitler.

    1. Both were democratically elected but soon ensured that any opposition was threatened into submission/murdered/imprisoned. While Hitler dispensed with elections, the Putin appointed (and recently deceased) Election Commissioner openly declared that he was Putin’s man and would take orders from him. These apparently included accepting instructions on the majorities that were to be declared in each region.

    2. Both stated that their people were being mistreated in neighbouring countries which was intolerable and that they sought only to protect them and bring the territories in which they were a majority, into the national fold – the Sudetenland and western Poland in Hitler’s case and Crimea and eastern Ukraine in Putin’s.

    3. Both claimed provocation by the governments of the relevant countries. An attack on a German radio station in Poland’s case and the claimed presence of bio-labs (as well as other fabrications) in Putin’s.

    4. The leaders of both countries sought to blur the distinction between themselves as individuals and the nation as a whole, thus being able to depict those who opposed their leadership as opposing the nation’s well-being.

    5. Both created a common enemy who were depicted as seeking to do them harm and to steal their assets. In Hitler’s case the Jews and in Putin’s the ‘west’ in general.

    6. Both depicted the democracies as depraved in contrast with their own country’s love of family and traditional values. While threatening/ murdering/torturing and imprisoning the political opposition in labour camps or driving them abroad.

    7. Hitler’s minions took blond, blue eye-ed Polish infants from their parents to be adopted by German couples and raised as Germans. Putin’s minions took Ukrainian children from their parents to ‘Summer Camps’ in Russia and many have not been seen since. The Russian Families Minister proudly announced that she had ‘adopted’ one such child.

    Putin was a KGB agent. He was not conscripted into that murderous organization. He made several attempts to join. If he really had no idea what a murderous outfit he had joined, the opening of their archives after the Soviet Union fell, would have opened his eyes but he still proudly boasts of his membership and has stated that he regards the fall as the most tragic event in modern history. And he has, in power, surrounded himself with former agents.

    He did not rise far in the KGB hierarchy apparently because his reports (also viewable for a short time) stated that he was a man without empathy. His superiors sure got that right! I wonder where they are now?
     
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  5. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    I think he's more like Mussolini than Hitler both had a penchant for flexing their semi naked torsos in public.

    https://www.theglobalist.com/putin-and-mussolini-russian-orthodox-church-ukraine-invasion/
     
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  6. Blizzard

    Blizzard thy kingdom come

    And here’s Col. Macgregors recent assessment of the war.

     
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  7. Globalist elites provoking bloody conflicts and coups – Putin

    The globalist elites keep insisting on their exceptionalism; they pit people against each other, split societies, provoke bloody conflicts and coups, sow hatred, Russophobia and aggressive nationalism, destroy traditional family values that make human a human,” Putin said.

    https://www.rt.com/russia/575994-putin-parade-west-ukraine/?ysclid=lhhnqbeszk405472105
     
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  8. jackzokay

    jackzokay Powers

    This is very insightful from Colonel MacGregor.
    But what is going on here? Why are they doing this to Ukraine? What is their endgoal?
    Zelensky and his cronies being paid to sell their country out! Well, I suppose that's similar to what the Democrats are doing to America. Swinging the Southern border open to all and sundry. Flattening the middle class and poor. Starting wars all over the globe. And now, insanely, talking about deploying 'a tactical nuclear weapon'!
    (What do they think that will lead to...)
    That's all actually no different to our leaders here in Ireland, minus the war element of course. They've opened our shores to ALL foreigners - and there are no limits nor checks on those arriving. They have sold us out too. Attacking the middle class with taxes and rising costs.
    All these leaders the world over however seem to be in complete lockstep.

    All these senseless undertakings by these leaders.... But, is there a spiritual element to it all?

    Is Satan involved?
    Is the 100 year reign of Satan coming to an end - and is he now desperate to escalate?

    As a footnote: how did they get all of these leaders singing from the same hymn sheet? From Tredeau to Horserace Ardern in New Zealand - to Macron to Zelensky to Boris/Sunak in the UK to Merkel in Germany to the leaders of Ireland, Scotland, Sweden, Spain, etc etc etc. As well as most of the opposition parties in practically all of those countries! How is that even possible? Yet, it is... They have done it. Even here in backwater Ireland, they have all -- ALL -- of the politicians. How?!!?! How is that possible?!?
     
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  9. jackzokay

    jackzokay Powers

    Jason, they've banned RT here. We can't open links from Russia Today. And they tell us we live in the "free" West lol
     
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  11. Blizzard

    Blizzard thy kingdom come

    I could be wrong but I think Putins address is being censored by several western media outlets.

    Only selected portions are available.

    But here it is in its entirety - France 24 for some reason made it available.

     
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  12. Blizzard

    Blizzard thy kingdom come

    I believe the only REAL I mean REAL REAL answer to your excellent questions was given by Paul and Our Lord’s beloved apostle 2,000 years ago.

    Ephesians 6:12

    12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.

    Revelation 12:12

    Therefore rejoice, you heavens and you who dwell in them! But woe to the earth and the sea, because the devil has gone down to you! He is filled with fury, because he knows that his time is short.”
     
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  13. AED

    AED Powers

    Alt news sources will tell you those leaders were all hand picked by the Bohemian Grove WEF elites. They have been up to no good in Ukraine and they want to destroy the evidence. The fact that they hate Putin makes him look more like a white hat. He seems to have their number.. He is on to them.. This is the alt news view. I don't know how much truth is there. But thats what they are saying.
     
  14. Jo M

    Jo M Powers


    They seem to have control over all of these political leaders, so something sinister must be at the root of this. :sneaky: I agree with AED that they were hand picked, but I do wonder if it's even more than that. Could they have incriminating evidence on all of them? Were they bought off? Look at the long list of politicians and celebrities who traveled to Epstein Island, they are all on the same page. :eek:
     
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  15. Jo M

    Jo M Powers

    True, Putin doesn't play their game.
     
  16. jackzokay

    jackzokay Powers

    Unfortunately I believe you're right.
    They've been either bought or bribed....
     
  17. Whatever

    Whatever Powers

    Colonel Macgregor is one who smells a rat but I don't think he is quite ready yet to face the awful reality. Or maybe he knows and dare not name it. Garabandal started a thread with an excellent video about cultural marxism. The speaker in the video ended by saying that he had named the enemy: Wokeism which is a form of marxism. But wokeism isn't a person or group of people and Karl Marx is dead. What he did was name the method without naming the people controlling how and where the method is being employed. Maybe he doesn't know who they are. There can be no doubt that the method is being centrally controlled by someone because, as Jack said, many countries across the globe don't act in lockstep by coincidence.

    Judge Napolitano interviews some very interesting people. I watched his interview with a former CIA man named Phil Giraldi. Go to about the 16:30 Mark in this video where they talk for a few minutes about the assassination of JFK and RFK. I'm inclined to agree with Mr. Giraldi that a foreign State ordered the assassination of JFK, and I don't believe that the CIA would cover for the Cubans.



    On the face of it, my suspicions would suggest that I'm anti-Semitic or Anti-Israel. In fact, I believe that, in many ways, the Jews and Israeli residents are also victims. It's not about protecting the Jews or the Jewish state. It's about who controls the world's money supply, And that doesn't mean I think the Jews control the world's money supply because I don't believe it. There's certainly a small cabal of people in control. I'm sure that some of them are Jews but not all - probably just a few - and I doubt any of them lives in Israel. Protecting Israel and so-called peace in the Middle East is a good sell in Europe and America, claiming that every leader who must be removed poses a security threat to the region. Many countries destroyed and many thousands dead, ostensibly for the security of Israel while Israel becomes less secure with each passing year as the people live in what is effectively a garrison.

    They started out screaming that Poland is next on Putin's list, lining up the Poles as cannon fodder when they've used up the last Ukrainian. If they use a false flag to get Poland involved, that drags in all EU countries. The Ukrainians tried a false flag killing two Polish farmers but they couldn't pull it off. Sometimes there's a hint of hysteria about the British MOD so some of the cabal must be British. The British security forces are more than capable of using a false flag. If they do, it won't be a couple of farmers who die. They'll have no qualms about striking a European city, or using a strategic nuke on Ukrainians, killing as many as they deem necessary to get the desired result. If they can't get all-out war, they'll settle for ongoing terrorist attacks in Russian cities. If that happens, watch the Brits applaud terrorism when they do the planning and train the perpetrators. I'm fairly sure that Stoltenburg said NATO has a ten year plan for the war in Ukraine, so don't expect peace anytime soon.

    Of course, as long as people are ready to swallow drivel about Putin being another Stalin or Hitler, they'll happily sit like frogs in the pot as the water comes to the boil. More comforting for Christians to ignore what Jesus said about the root of all evil when their trusted leaders point at Putin and shout "Communist".

    Watch now as climate change becomes the new Israel. The evil people behind all this death and destruction will abandon Israel in a heartbeat when it suits them.
     
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  18. Byron

    Byron Powers

    It wasn’t the Cubans. There has always been an American military base in Cuba. It would not have been a difficult task to have ousted the Castro’s. Many feel, for whatever reason, our State Department and CIA were content with having Castro as Cuba’s communist leader. But when Kennedy decided he was going to get out of Vietnam, and oust Castro, as well as, end the Fed, not give nuclear missiles to Israel, and go after the mafia, well…he didn’t have a chance in hell.
     
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  19. Whatever

    Whatever Powers

    Why did Trump keep a lid on it? Surely not to protect the FBI or the CIA. I don't think he was a big fan of the Fed but he was on good terms with the Israeli PM.

    Strange that the NYT would report RFK Jnr's suspicions. They're a government mouthpiece. I suppose it could be a hint to Israel that Ukraine needs a missile defence system. If so, it puts Israel between a rock and a hard place because of the possibility of the system being replicated.

    I do think that Col. MacGregor and others are a bit OTT in painting a rosy picture of Russia. It's nearly as bad as the Americans trotting out Khruschev's daughter (or was it his granddaughter?) to badmouth Putin. No disrespect to her but that's not a relationship to be proud of.

    I don't believe that Klaus Schwab is the puppet master. He's just the public face of it. If we heard the names of the real puppet masters we'd probably scratch our heads wondering why we had never heard their names before. Whoever they are, they sure love their money.

    Anyway, whichever side comes out on top will be no friend to practicing Catholics. Jesus told us that there will be wars, rumours of wars and earthquakes but he told us to be not alarmed. If we keep our eyes on Heaven, we should be ok. I feel sorry for people who believe that this life is all there is.
     
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  20. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    We're meant to be constitutionally 'neutral'.

    Given her intent to everywhere export and enforce abortion and sexual perversion, I find it difficult to see the United States as not being the greater of the two evils in our present clash of empires. Even China does not seem to be as spectacularly corrupt and that's saying something.
     
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