Maria Divine Mercy

Well I could remind him why an Archbishop carries a shepherds crook...to protect from wolves, of course, not to splat flies with.



But again I don't think it was this Bishop, I think it was the last one. (Who got in trouble)

 

Email sent off to the Archbishop, we'll see what pans out!

 

"Ahhh Paulie...won't see him no more"

 

This is the MDM message which made me feel sick. Typical that nobody Jesus to Mankind - writers did critisice it or even comment negatively. Everything was wonderful as always... I was so baffled (right word?) when I read this. What kind of Jesus Christ is this???Who talks like this??
Saturday, May 4th, 2013
"To those of you who claim to speak with great knowledge of Me and then spit with a cursed tongue against My prophet – know this. Your faith will not save you when you curse the Word of God. Your self-proclaimed love of God is meaningless when you judge one of His children before Him. You are cutting the umbilical cord, which binds you to My Father, when you show disrespect, anger and hatred towards Me. When you spit at Me, you will become blind and will never see again. When you utter words of hatred, your tongue will be cut out. When you stand up and declare to all your self-proclaimed knowledge of God, you will fall with your legs cut from under you. When you deem My prophet to be evil, you will have no life. My Word will never die; it will live for eternity. It will trample on those sinners who try to defy the Mercy of God, through these Messages. Reject Me this time and you reject the freedom I bring when I come to gather you, finally, into My Kingdom."

 

Thanks of this icon!! It is icon of hospitality and of Holy Trinity as you very well know!

 

Yes, I do

 

That awful message was obviously meant to bind the followers even closer in their "ownership" of salvation. They rejoice that anyone that questions them is to be cut down and trampled on, that even their faith cannot save them because they dared to question MDM. If one reads the Diary of St Faustina, who saw Jesus on a daily basis and was given messages for mankind, one can see the HUGE difference in the content, wording, and general feeling of the messages. Her diary was questioned and stopped for a time by the Church, and was not published for many years because of obedience to the Church and it's authority. Jesus on Earth was obedient to His Jewish religion, and asked Lepers He healed to go show themselves to the Priests, in order to fullfill the precepts of the law at the time. Those that think Jesus would ask someone to be disobedient really doesn't seem to know Him very well....

 

Sounds more like the Allah of the Quran speaking rather than the Jesus of the New Testament

 

That makes me sick to my stomach. ugggg. God have mercy!!

 

This is why I stay away from things like prophecy....it is so insensible.

 

But Padraig,

I don't know how to test things like that...I have absolutely no discernment. I prayed and prayed for that and the onlly thing I got was I was led here. I think I will have to accept that as being what God wants me to have.

I think prophecy is wonderful, but I do not understand it - so I have to leave it to those who do to explain it. The only thing I know for sure is that the Church is right.

I think this Board is right too, but in a different way.

 

QuD - Thank you for the link. I am starting to try and find my way through it. The problem is not with prophecy, but because I cannot deciper it. Krizevac was able in 1 post to show how wrong the alleged prophecy is. I am not able to follow the train of thought through to its end - which is why I need the Holy Spirit. Maybe I am using this board as a shortcut, but not out of being lasy, but just because I dont understand most of it.

If only people who can discern prophecy knew how much people like me rely on their knowledge.

 

The evidence is mounting !
Opinions of priests and theologians:

• The Slovakian Conference of Bishops has condemned the Maria Divine Mercy messages as heretical. To read the full letter and an English translation, click HERE.
• The Archdiocese of Melbourne, Australia has issued a warning to the faithful to its parishes about the Maria Divine Mercy messages. When I have the full text, I will provide it here.
• Karl Keating, founder and President of the reputable organization, "Catholic Answers" says, "I have taken a look at the Maria Divine Mercy’s website, and it didn’t take but a minute to discover that this seer is fake and her messages contrary to the Church." He adds, "You need to back away from this spurious seer--and pronto." Read his opinion HERE: Catholic.com Blog
• Dr. Mark Miravalle, Professor of Theology and Mariology at Franciscan University of Steubenville says, "Ironically, the alleged message predicts an upcoming schism in the Church. This could well become a self-fulfilling prophecy, a Satanic goal and strategy, which could result, in some part, from the following of extremely dangerous and materially schismatic messages such as those promulgated by 'Maria Divine Mercy.'" Read his full analysis of the messages HERE: New Advent Blog
• Jimmy Akin, journalist for the National Catholic Register, says of Maria Divine Mercy, "[Maria Divine Mercy] is an anonymous, unapproved seer whose prophecies contain material that is both demonstrably false and contrary to Catholic teaching regarding the future. Furthermore, to adhere to her prophecies can result in the grave sin and canonical crime of schism." Read the rest of his opinion HERE: National Catholic Register
• According to an article in the Irish magazine "Alive!", Catholic priest Father Owen Gorman writes why this cannot be an apparition from God. Scroll down (pdf) to page 10:Alive! Magazine, March 2012 OR click on the image of the article at the bottom of this posting and magnify to read it. Thank you to "Anonymous" commenter for finding this article.
• Father John Hogan OCDS has written an article warning against these messages, "I would ask all Catholics to stay clear of this woman and her 'messages'. For one thing we cannot establish her credentials. When the Church examines the authenticity of any supernatural events or revelations she examines the alleged seers because their lives and integrity are part of the investigation." Read the rest of his article HERE: Ex Umbris Et Imaginibus Blog
• Father Angel Sotelo of the Diocese of Fresno states, "For the reasons listed...and not even counting the theological errors which are said to exist in her messages, they should in my opinion be dismissed and not given even the pious or human faith given to an approved private revelation." He outlines his full opinion HERE
• According to the Eternal Word Television Network, "The judgment that an alleged apparition has been shown to be not supernatural means it is either clearly not miraculous or lacks sufficient signs of the miraculous. Private revelation, for example, which is doctrinally dangerous or which manifests hostility to lawful authority could not come from God. It could even be demonic, especially if there are extraordinary signs accompanying it. The devil gladly mingles truth and lie to deceive the faithful, dazzling them with signs and wonders to give credence to his message. His purpose is to separate them from the Church, either by getting them to believe things contrary to the deposit of the faith or to act contemptuously of Church authority. An attitude of pride and judgment toward the Church is a clear sign of his presence.
• According to Richard Salbato of Unity Publishing, "A sure sign of a demonically-inspired seer is their seeking self-profit, glory and power over GOD's." On her website, "Maria" is selling volumes of the messages. The second volume is set to come out and they are presently taking pre-orders. There is no bishop approval on these writings. Where is the money going? Richard Salbato has an excellent article on discerning the spirits. This is a good, long checklist by which all supposed apparitions can be measured: Testing The Spirit

 

Maria Divine Mercy shows just how dangerous it is to get the balance wrong between private revelation and the Magisterium.
How easy it is for the Devil to put into peoples minds maybe Francis isnt the Pope. For me there is a systematic attempt by him to bring confusion about where our loyalties are, to lower the place of the authentic teaching.
www.divinemercypopes.com

 

Some friends & I have been compiling MDM false statements. They are
riddled with doctrinal falsehoods which God or the Blessed Mother would not
have spoken. Dates of ‘messages’ are given, British style, day of month first.
‘Messages’ are from ‘Jesus’ unless otherwise stated.




8/11/2010:
[‘Virgin Mary’] ‘The Holy Family will re-unite.’

Since Our Lady’s Assumption the Holy Family is united eternally in heaven.

13/11/2010:
‘I am suffering to such an extent that the wounds inflicted upon Me at My terrible crucifixion…are opening again and festering…’

The body of Our Lord can never suffer corruption, such as festering. This is also blasphemy.

21/11/2010:
‘All paths lead to God, the creator of mankind.’
Jesus actually said ‘I am the way, the truth and the life. No one can come to the Father except through me.’
‘All paths’, by definition, include animism, spiritualism, witchcraft, Marxism
and devil worship. MDM tells us they all lead to God!

18/12/2011:
‘My role was to show you, through my teachings and death on the cross, the
Pathway to Heaven.’

Note that Christ merely plays a role! – and that role is merely to show us the way to heaven. Nothing here about his redemptive sacrifice on the cross.

1/1/2011:
‘My Beloved Mother, the Angel of Light…’

The Blessed Mother is not an angel. The phrase ‘angel of light’ occurs only once in Scripture, in 2 Cor 11:14, where it refers to the deception of Satan!

16/1/2011:
‘It is vital that My children understand the way in which they can prepare
their souls in order to redeem themselves in the eyes of My Father.’

We are powerless to redeem ourselves, which only God can do for us. He did this once and for all in the death and resurrection of His son. This error recurs many times in the ‘messages’.

24/1/2011:
‘It is harder to achieve My special graces than it is to avoid sin in any form.’

It is impossible for us to ‘achieve’ graces. They are by definition a FREE GIFT from God.

7/2/2011:
‘It is because of this scripture [i.e., MDM’s messages] that they will survive
The Warning.’

Another recurring theme: MDM’s messages are Holy Scripture. Message 18/3/2011: ‘Respect this most Holy Scripture.’ Here they are said to be necessary to our salvation during the Warning. The Sacred Canon was closed during the Apostolic Age. There will be no more ‘Holy Scripture’.

14//4/2011:
‘Many Christians ignore one of the most fundamental promises I made during My
crucifixtion [sic] where I would be present in bread and wine and leave a
permanent mark to help nourish souls.’

(1) Christ made one promise on the cross – to the repentant robber.
(2) He is not present IN bread and wine: these elements are changed entire into His Body and Blood. Basic catechism! This is a glaring heresy - the heresy of Consubstantiation! (the view that the Eucharist is both the body and blood of Christ as well as the bread and wine)
Transubstantiation is the transformation in the Eucharist of the substance of bread and wine into the substance of the Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity of Christ. This transformation of substance does not affect the appearances of the elements, which continue to APPEAR to be bread and wine. The substance changes; the appearances do not.
The Council of Trent summarizes the Catholic faith by declaring: "Because Christ our Redeemer said that it was truly His Body that He was offering under the species of bread, it has always been the conviction of the Church, and this holy council now declares again, that by the consecration of the bread and wine there takes place a change of the whole substance of the bread into the substance of the Body of Christ our Lord and of the whole substance of the wine into the substance of His Blood. This change the Holy Catholic Church has fittingly and properly called transubstantiation." - Catechism of the Catholic Church #1376(3) As for the permanent mark…

21/5/2011:
‘My love, after the act of Redemption takes place, will flood your soul.’

The act of redemption took place 2,000 years ago. There will be no other.

25/6/2011:
[God the Father!] ‘This New Paradise on Earth is now being planned for all My
children. It will last 1,000 years on earth.’

This is the heresy known as Millenarianism. The Church has condemned it as ‘the Antichrist’s deception.’ (See Catechism of the Catholic Church, No.676.) Does MDM take ‘The Watchtower’?

31/8/2011:
‘All religions, all creeds…are all so precious to My Eternal Father.’

It follows, then, that headhunting, thuggee, necromancy, divination, Freemasonry, atheistic humanism, spiritualism and satanism are all so precious to the Father!

13/9/2011:
‘Never allow yourselves to accept any truth other than that contained in the
Holy Bible.’

The heresy of ‘sola scriptura’! MDM, then, is a Protestant and rejects Sacred Tradition.

17/9/2011:
‘My daughter, while I need suffering to save poor unfortunate souls…’

Christ invites us to co-operate with him in our sufferings to help save souls. He is God. He does not NEED anything.

6/11/2011:
‘Remember the demon lives not just in Hell but has firmly established his reign
on earth.’
Satan’s rule was overthrown by Christ’s redemptive act. God alone reigns. Satan has power only over those who give it to him.

7/11/2011:
‘Without your sacrifice I could not fulfil my promise to save mankind so that
every soul is accorded the opportunity to benefit from their rightful
inheritance.’

If Christ ‘could not’ save mankind without MDM, then (1) Christ is not God Omnipotent, and (2) MDM is a necessary co-redeemer!

24/12/2011:
[God the Father] ‘When I realised that the only way to redeem mankind was to
send a Saviour…’

According to MDM, the Father has to take time to ‘realise’ how to fulfil his plan of salvation! As an omniscient Being, God does not have to "think about" anything. He already knows!

4/1/2012:
‘Preparations are complete but I need more prayer for those who will die a
wretched death in a state of mortal sin during The Warning.’

How many Catholics don’t know that souls that die in mortal sin enter immediately into hell? They are beyond our prayers.

9/3/2012:
(Virgin Mary) “Now you know how He suffered in the Garden of Gethsemane and how He still suffers today as every attempt by Him to intervene to save sinners is
thwarted by the evil one.”

Jesus’ power to save sinners is said to be weaker than Satan’s opposition! Satan is not some sort of "anti-god", God's evil equal. He is a created creature with limited power.

25.4.2012: “All mankind will have free will until it all unites with the Divine Will of the Father.”

A creature without free will is incapable of love. According to MDM, this will be taken away from us when ‘it all unites’!

28/4/2012:
(God the Father) “As the Father of humanity I am ready to send My Son back to
reclaim his rightful throne.”

The author of this message doesn’t know the Creed: Christ has ‘ascended into heaven, and is seated at the right hand of the Father.’

7/5/2012: “[Jesus to the Church] You scaled such lofty heights that I could not reach up to you and offer you My hand to salvage you from the rot within you core.”
Does this blasphemous drivel call for a comment?

“When Vatican II declared new rules they were introduced by those evil Masonic forces from within your corridors.”

Many messages refer to an ‘evil Masonic sect’ within the Vatican. For several reasons this sinks MDM’s credibility:

(1) she has said – see above – that ‘All paths lead to God’, and ‘All religions, creeds…are so precious to My Eternal Father.’ All religions, creeds and paths, by definition, include Freemasonry, which should, therefore, lead to God;

(2) the false belief that all paths lead to God is a core doctrine of Freemasonry. MDM’s messages teach Masonic doctrine!

12/5/2012: “It will take strong faith and acceptance of
the Truth contained within these messages from Heaven to stay on the true path
to eternal life.”

MDM’s messages are thus said to be necessary for our salvation. Only a false prophet would claim this.

9/7/2012: “For Catholics among you, you must receive the Sacrament of Confession every two weeks if you wish to remain in a state of Grace.”

An earlier message (24/1/2011) says ‘weekly attendance’ is necessary for this. Catholics must avoid serious sin (e.g., heresy, blasphemy, schism, spreading false prophecy) to remain in state of grace.

18/12/2012: “Every child murdered in the womb becomes an angel in My Father’s Kingdom.”

Every child murdered in the womb dies in the mercy of God and remains a human person.

10/12/2012: “My Return will be the moment of My Glorification.”

The moment of Christ’s Glorification was his Resurrection.”

What is the real purpose of MDM’s messages?

15/11/2010: “I ask you to pray for My Beloved Pope [Benedict XVI], the last true Pope.”

7/6/2011: “It is important that My followers keep alert to any new Pope that may come forward for he will not be from God.”

18/1/2012: “They plan to replace the Holy Vicar Pope Benedict XVI with a dictator of lies. He will create a new church in league with the antichrist.”

10/4/2012: “The new false Pope is already scheming, even before he ascends to the throne of the Seat of Peter, to denounce the teaching of My Son.”

12/4/2012: “The pope [who comes after Pope Benedict] may
be elected by members within the Catholic Church but he will be the false
prophet.” (I.e., of the Antichrist.)

Comment should be unnecessary. Vatican I taught infallibly that St Peter will have perpetual successors in the primacy, and pronounced an anathema against anyone who should deny this. MDM’s prophecy here is a lie from the Pit. Pope Benedict has been warning the Church about the huge number of false ‘visionaries’ who are exploiting modern means of communication to lead Catholics out of the Church and into schismatic cults.

 

Maria Divine Mercy joined the forum a couple of years ago, but she left in huff. Jesus allegedly told her not to talk to us anymore. The messages from Jesus and Mary on her website were directly related to the conversations we had here.


http://motheofgod.com/threads/the-warning-second-coming.2218/page-3

 

It still amazes me how many followers she ( or whom ever is MDM ),has after 3 failed predictions in one year ! That is not faith , that is blind sheep who follow.

 

or something more sinister ...