Just pondering all of this. It is first said that the pope that will do the consecration will be not Pope Benedict, but his successor. Then it is said that the consecration will not happen until after the second part of the third secret is revealed. Then, that Pope Benedict could be the Pope to give us the secret before he goes into hiding. (Also, the secret will be revealed during a major war.) Russia invades. Pope releases secret goes into hiding is martyred. Then we have a new Pope elected who then consecrates Russia. If this is true, then The only way for any of it to make sense is that The current person on the chair of Peter did not actually succeed in The consecration due to the fact that he is not rightly in his position.
HH, Yes, I agree. Ang, This is what I was eluding to when I said that the stigmatist made no mention of 2 popes at the same time but I was afraid to say it. Your statement above which I bolded also helps explain why Ann Bernhardt was interested in this video. It is possible that the stigmatist added some of his own thoughts to his visions and made some human errors. For instance, it would be difficult to understand two popes existing at the same time but the Fatima seers seemed to elude to this in their vision of a pope like a reflection in a mirror. Personally, I am interested in this video but it seems to raise more questions for me. I am still wondering a lot about the Iran comment and if he is referring to the Gog-Mog war and if that is case, we are very close to the very end and I don't believe that we are and what purpose would it serve for a pope to release the 4th secret then. I am going back and forth about this stigmatist's visions and wondering if they could really be from Heaven. If they don't fit with other prophecies that I believe are from Heaven I'm going to have to throw them out. Thank you for simplifying this video for us.
“Warning will occur just at the right time to prevent WWIII and also prompt Pope Francis to release the secret after he witnesses his own failings.” That makes a lot of sense to me Carol.
I am kind of uneasy about the Consecration for a number of reasons. Like the length of time it took to fulfill the Mandate of Heaven. The number of people doing the Nine Saturday Devotions. The extent of Evil in the World and the Apostasy Heresy at the Highest Reaches on the Church. Pope Francis himself. I was astonished when he did the Consecration. I am still astonished. To be frank I smell a rat. Something is not right about all this. To be honest..and I know it is a terrible thing for a Catholic to say about a Pope, but still..I have zero trust in the man. If he told me the sun was shining outside I would have to go look for myself. This thing about the Consecration....well I am very uneasy about it all..
I would never ever claim someone like Pope Francis was an anti Pope. God forbid. But he does fill me with the very,very deepest unease. That is the simple truth. He fills me with the very,very deepest unease. I am only a very simple sinful Catholic lay person, but he fills me with the very,very deepest unease. Dogs Bark, cats meow, it seems to me that the Consecration of Russia was outside of what I know of Pope's Francis character and agenda. Why? But God forbid I would sit in Judgement on Rome in such a grave matter as him being an anti Pope.
Nevertheless, I leave the matter of Anti Pope to one side. Still I am very persuaded by the Fatima Fathers and their predictions.
Because it’s too late. And Pope Francis has been an awful Pope. But he did the Consecration. No doubt there.
There is an interesting comment under the YT video by a person called Robert Ryan who says: l was blessed to have collected Fr. Gruner at Dublin Airport a month before he died. I drove him to Athlone , where he offered the Holy Sacrifice of the mass in the SSPX Church and then rested before he gave a conference. He told me that Bergoglio, when Archbishop of Buenos Aries had written to the Fatima centre twice. Then he dropped a bombshell. He told me that Bergoglio was an antipope. He repeatedly said " you have to read Pope Benedict's resignation in Latin". What l recount here is the truth. God bless you
Well sometimes , I think we have to say , with all honesty we do not know. It is sometimes like looking at a jigsaw puzzle and having a feeling that we are missing certain pieces. We cannot read the Secrets of men's hearts. Why do people do certain things and act in certain ways..for instance I was watching this today: Why did this Bishop do this?;
At this point it doesn’t even matter whether he is or not. The secrets have been pretty much revealed in Garabandal and Akita.
We must be humble and do as Our Lady said. To pray the Rosary. To convert. To Trust in God. But we cannot sit on judgement on a Pope in the way of deciding for our own selves that he is an anti Pope. God has not given us the power or right to do so...
As I am thinking more about this. There is one other way ….. It could be that the consecration was not done in the way Our Lady wanted. Possibly that the bishops were “invited”. Or maybe the mention of all humanity. Or including Ukraine…. A number of things. So that would lead to a need of a true Consecration of Russia after the explanation of the third secret is revealed.
I agree, Padraig. My mind and my heart are striving to accept the Consecration at face value. But my gut has consistently been telling me something ain’t right, from the moment it was announced, up through Friday afternoon, and even now. Something ain’t right; I’ve learned to trust my gut instincts and I too smell a rat.
I don't have to know or say that Pope Francis is an Anti Pope. I do not have the power to do so as an ordinary Catholic. In this regard I cannot read the secrets of men's souls. If there was some kind of devilish conspiracy to elect a false Pope how would I know??? Though then again it would not altogether astonish me if there were, to be quite honest. All we have is what we got. Pope Francis. The worst Pope in my opinion in 2,000 years.. So , as in Poker, we play with the hands we are dealt with. I go along with and read,with the hands I know. My guess, my best guess is that the way the two Fathers describe the present situation is the exact same way I look at it, prophetically... I drop the anti Pope thing out of the equation as a kind of paranathesis...a kind of, 'maybe', in brackets.
For me it's something I keep in the back of my head as a mental reservation, to maintain my own spiritual sanity. I firmly believe that while at present we MUST accept Pope Francis as the pope, some day the Church, in hindsight, may well declare he was an antipope. In my mind, the only way the Church may be able to square the circle of his errors in the face of Christ’s promises regarding the papacy is that someday he will be declared to have been an antipope, either because of defects in BXVI’s resignation and / or irregularities involving the St. Gallen mafia.
I don't want to oversimplify matters but isn't it true that: 1. If the consecration has been made properly by a validly elected Pope, then Russia will be converted and we will enjoy the 'era of peace' but... 2. If the consecration has not been properly made by a validly elected Pope, then we are going to see a world war?
