Russia to be Consecrated?

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  1. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Years and years ago I knew a very Saintly Monk called Brother Francis. He is amongst a couple of handfuls of people that I regarded as living saints , his every word and action breathed with the Spirit of God.

    Before he was a monk Francis had to stay in the World to nurse his ailing father fro some years. He used to go to Mass each morning in his local Church. One morning after Mss the Parish Priest invited Brother Francis back to the Parochial House for a up of Coffee and a Chat. To his amazement the priest started of by asking him,

    'Do you believe in God?'

    Startled Francis asked him if he believed. To which the Father replied that of course he did not believe. That the whole thing was a fairy tale to which no intelligent person could subscribe. He knew Francis was intelligent and just wondered why on Earth he went to Mass everyday?

    Francis then asked the Parish Priest how he could remain a Priest when he was a complete Atheist? The Father responded that he considered himself a Social Worker, doing much good in his role. In either case where would he go and what would he do if he were not a priest? Here he had a big house a good , 'Job' , plenty of money and was very well respected.

    Many many Clerics , including the very highest are like this. Either they have no real believe in God or they believe in a God who is Deus ex Machina. This is the Free Masonic belief that God as Master Builder created all things but after having made them and set them in motion he left them to themselves. He no longer interfered with mankind or His Creation but left folks to it.

    The new God then is man himself who much build a new heaven on Earth.

    Now then Pope Francis was approached by the Ukrainian Bishops he was left in an invidious position, for what could he do? The Ukrainians were extolled as great hero's by the Globalist elite's . How could he refuse such a reasonable request without looking very,very bad?

    How on the other hand could he do this Consecration of Russia without offending Russia and the Russian Orthodox?

    Answer Consecrate both Russia and Ukraine in a little ceremony. Keep everyone satisfied and the whole thing will blow over. But as far as any real belief in the Supernatural or any living Faith being involved here, forget about it.

    It's a box ticking exercise to get Francis out from under. As such it is a gross insult to God and His Bless Mother and will make a bad situation incalcuably worse.

    Matthew 15:8

    …7You hypocrites! Isaiah prophesied correctly about you: 8‘These people honor Me with their lips, but their hearts are far from Me. 9They worship Me in vain; they teach as doctrine the precepts of men.’ ”…

    Isaiah 29:13

    The Lord says: “These people come near to me with their mouth and honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. Their worship of me is based on merely human rules they have been taught.


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  2. padraig

    padraig Powers

    We have an expression here in Ireland,

    'What can you expect from a pig but a grunt?'

    The only thing I believe Pope Francis truly believes in and Worships is Pope Francis.

    That there is no greater or more loyal fan of Pope Francis than Pope Francis himself.

    I don't believe or trust in anything he says.

    I don't believe or trust in anything he does.

    ..and I don't believe or trust in anything he pretends to be.

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  3. Whatever

    Whatever Powers

    Mario,
    Is that the precise wording? Here's the wording on the Blue Army website:

    "The moment has come in which God asks the Holy Father, in union with all the bishops of the world, to make the consecration of Russia, promising to save it by this means....."
    A Pope has consecrated Russia by name but without the participation of all the Bishops of the world. A Pope has consecrated the world with the participation of all the Bishops but without naming Russia. If neither of those consecrations met Heaven's requirements, how can they be met by including more bishops but not all bishops? I'm sure that the request/order (depending on the wording of the message) would be sufficient because the Pope can't force Bishops to comply.

    I believe that Pope John Paul's consecration fulfilled the request to Heaven's satisfaction, but if this is meant to be a more precise attempt at getting it right, then not requesting/instructing all Bishops to participate at the same time as the Pope falls short of the requirements specified by Our Lady.

    Consecration is to be welcomed because it will bring more grace to the world, especially the two countries mentioned, but the debate will drag on if we don't see an almost overnight conversion of Russia as we did the fall of the Soviet Union after the last consecration. Michael Lofton is already using this announcement to get in his customary sneers at what he calls rad trads, and I'm sure there are many more like him.

    If only the Pope would consecrate the faithful to the Immaculate Heart of Mary especially know-it-all Catholic apologists who lately are hard to distinguish from used car salesmen,
     
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  4. AED

    AED Powers

    Interestingly enough I have had a very terrible week--every kind of kerfuffle confusion and difficulty. Nothing life threatening. Just aggravation designed to rob my patience and fret my temper. I won't share the gory details but it sure fits your post PF. Especially number one.
     
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  5. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Same here. Lent ramped up.
     
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  6. I haven't read many of the posts about the exciting news about the consecration to be carried out on March 25th, but I did look through an article that said that the bishops of Ukraine are asking the faithful to pray a novena before consecration day. However, I couldn't find what the novena prayers consist of. Could someone help? I want to participate in the novena. Thank you in advance for your help.
     
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  7. Whatever

    Whatever Powers

    I've been searching too, unfortunately to no avail. Every news outlet quotes the Bishop saying that they will pray a novena but nobody published the specific novena prayers. Here are three novenas any one of which is probably suitable

    https://www.ewtn.com/catholicism/devotions/novena-to-the-immaculate-heart-of-mary-310
    https://www.ewtn.com/catholicism/devotions/our-lady-of-the-holy-rosary-novena-prayer-315
    https://www.thecatholiccrusade.com/novena-for-the-feast-of-the-annunciation.html
     
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  8. Catherine L

    Catherine L Archangels

    I thought peteronefive.com would post novena prayers beginning today for leading up to the 25th on their website...but so far, I don't see any posted yet today.
    Brian K, do you know if they will post the novena prayers today?
     
  9. Jo M

    Jo M Powers

    Ditto. Distractions, and family challenges. :(
     
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  10. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    :love:
    It starts today. It’s on the EWTN website, a simple prayer called The Annunciation Novena. I saw a link to it on a post.
    I printed it out. I’ll join you in participating
     
  11. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    It’s hidden as a link in the body of the article, see EWTN website.
     
  12. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

  13. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    The Annunciation Novena
    I greet you, Ever-blessed Virgin, Mother of God, Throne of Grace, miracle of Almighty Power! I greet you, Sanctuary of the Most Holy Trinity and Queen of the Universe, Mother of Mercy and refuge of sinners!

    Most loving Mother, attracted by your beauty and sweetness, and by your tender compassion, I confidently turn to you, miserable as I am, and beg of you to obtain for me from your dear Son the favor I request in this novena:

    (mention your request).

    Obtain for me also, Queen of heaven, the most lively contrition for my many sins and the grace to imitate closely those virtues which you practiced so faithfully, especially humility, purity and obedience. Above all, I beg you to be my Mother and Protectress, to receive me into the number of your devoted children, and to guide me from your high throne of glory.

    Do not reject my petitions, Mother of Mercy! Have pity on me, and do not abandon me during life or at the moment of my death. Amen.
     
  14. AED

    AED Powers

    THANK YOU!!!!
     
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  15. BrianK

    BrianK Powers Staff Member

    I share all these concerns @padraig, yet I’m still going to pray, including the Annunciation Novena.

    For what do we pray, in the face of these very real concerns?
     
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  16. BrianK

    BrianK Powers Staff Member

    https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/250687/latin-american-catholic-bishops-to-join-pope-francis-consecration-of-russia-and-ukraine-to-mary-s-immaculate-heart

    Latin American bishops to join Pope Francis’ consecration of Russia and Ukraine
    1 John 4:6),” the bishops added.

    The Vatican announced on March 15 that Pope Francis will consecrate Russia and Ukraine to the Immaculate Heart of Mary on March 25, the Solemnity of the Annunciation of the Lord. The consecration will take place during a penance service in St. Peter’s Basilica at 5 p.m. local time.

    Cardinal Konrad Krajewski, the papal almoner, will carry out the same act on the same day at the Sanctuary of Our Lady of Fatima in Portugal.

    The Latin American bishops said that they would participate in the consecration “in accordance with the time zones of our countries in Latin America and the Caribbean.”

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    Hannah Brockhaus is Catholic News Agency's senior Rome correspondent. She grew up in Omaha, Nebraska, and has a degree in English from Truman State University in Missouri.



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  17. ellen

    ellen Ellen


    Me too!!
     
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  18. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Glad to hear it.
     
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  19. AED

    AED Powers

    Me too Brian. Said the old Jewish woman in Brooklyn; "what can it hoit?" (Old Fr Groeshel quote)

    I am praying for the correct consecration as Our Lady asked for it. For the conversion of Russia. For the salvation of Pope Francis. For God's truth to be revealed. For God's Justice to be manifest.
     
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  20. Rosalia66

    Rosalia66 Archangels

    Maybe faithful Catholics can contact their local Bishops to plead for them to do the Consecration with Pope Francis.

    I just went on the US Congress of Bishops website to see if there was a way to contact them. I found where to contact them.

    Go to https://www.usccb.org/contact-us
     
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