Maria Divine Mercy

I started to think that MDM was kind of experiment to show how easy people can be manipulated. But having so many followers buying the books she is producing also showed me that it could also be just economic interest. Selling books with new prophecies every now and then can be very profitable.

 

I also listened to this interview early on when there was a keen interest in her then new prophecies. I watched the website develop, and read with a sense of trepidation when "God" started threatening her and "forbidding" her to post on this site and etc. Anyway, I never thought she was part of any group, I felt she really thought she was speaking to God and Jesus, and Mary. and when the illusion revealed itself to me I felt (and still feel) that she is being directed by an evil entity, Satan or a lesser demon. and that she is a pawn for that eveil one which is laughing as the Catholics who listen are fighting and dividing, and becoming anti-Catholic as time goes by. We need to pray for them and that their eyes open soon. Now that she is making money on these books, though, I do wonder if she could be fabricating all this for profit. I hope, for the sake of her soul, that she is not.

 

was looking at a film of St John Vianney last week. One shot showed him leaving his Church to visit someone and everyone knelt down as he passed and they openly called him a saint right to his face. I thought as I watched how very,very hard this have been on the poor man. Not that he would ever, really have been tempted to pride but it would have been fear of pride which would have tormented him.

The same thing with poor Padre Pio . They openly turned the piazza outside his friary into a market place seeing holy pictures of him. Poor Padre Pio went out one time and shouted at them to stop. Again I don't think it was pride so much Padre Pio was worried about as the fact the Vatican Monsignori were looking voer his shoulder hoping to drop the ax.

One time an Irish Novice Master commented on Padre Pio,

'Poor man it must be hard for him to fight the temptation to pride!'

This was relayed back to Padre Pioo and he just burst out laughing and shook his head,

'Ah these Novice Masters!',

he said.

The reason why Padre Pio could keep his head from swelling was the intense suffering as it was for the Cure of Ars.

I think for someone like, 'Maria', these messages ,which have made her world famous must have their own impetus and direction. A bit like going down a huge water slide were she gets faster and faster and it is harder and harder to stop. The best time and place would have been right at the start when she had not built up so much speed.

I don't think it is so much the money as pride, I think it would be very difficult to stop now she is speeding down for fast and part of the water beneath her is pride. It would be very,very humbling at this point for her to hold her hands up and admit she'd bombed.

 

Extract from message Thursday May 2nd:

"Soon, many of you will see clearly what I have warned you about. The schism will be vicious and a war will ensue between Truth and lies. It will bring the Catholic Church down, until it resembles a heap of stones, but the One True Church will remain standing tall, as My faithful servants build up My Remnant Army. They will fight until the bitter end to uphold the Holy Word of God."

Contradictory gibberish.

 

Best ignored in my opinion!

 

I'd love to ignore it completely. I keep an eye on what's being said because I want to be able to persuade my relative to see it's nonsense.

 

MDM Condemned as HERETICAL
by Slovakian Conference of Bishops

The Slovakian Conference of Bishops have issued a letter warning the faithful to stay away from the false messages put out by supposedly Irish seer Maria Divine Mercy and through her organization's website "The Warning Second Coming." Below is the text of the letter in English translated on an online translator. Although this translation isn't perfect, it is easy to see that the bishops are warning the faithful to stay away from the MDM messages completely.

ENGLISH TRANSLATION:

Bishop Sečka to spread the alleged Greater warning of Jesus Christ P: 3, 21 11th 2012 12:44, DOM
Spis Chapter 21 November (ZENIT) - Spis Bishop Mons. Stephen Sečka issued on the basis of reports of priests and believers phone calls from the Internet to disseminate data big warning of Jesus Christ. On this occasion, issued an opinion that we bring in full.
Dear Brothers and Sisters,
I learned that in some parishes is very spread messages about the so-called Great Day of God's warnings, resulting from the alleged private revelations of an Irish visionaries. These messages are distributed via the internet. I have found that it is a heretical teachings, which is not in accordance with the teachings of the Catholic Church and is showing signs of sectarianism. This whole doctrine is indeed poprepletaná prayers for God's mercy and calls for confession, as well as the Catholic Church teaches, but quotations from Scripture are commented and explained arbitrary and contrary to the teachings of the Catholic Church. Similar tendencies were already in the early Church, therefore St.. Apostle Peter wrote:

"Above all, you should know that no prophecy of Scripture does not allow private interpretation" (2 Peter 1: 20).​

After seeing this website I also found that believers are encouraged to have already bought so. "Seal of the living God" to be sanctified by a priest. I note that no priest faithful to Christ and his Church must cooperate in this matter, it would be guilty of transgressions against the faith and his office. For anyone who will disseminate these messages are delusional enough to apply strictly the words of Scripture, written by St. Apostle Paul to the Galatians:

"I marvel that from him that called you into the grace of Christ are under way quickly to another gospel. Ono nor other, unless there are some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But if we have preached unto you we, or an angel from heaven any other gospel than we have preached unto you, let him be accursed! As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone preaches to you a gospel contrary to that which you received, let him be accursed! I can now lean people or God? Or trying to please men? If I yet pleased men, I would not be Christ's servant. "(Gal 1, 6-9).​

All believers, who perhaps out of ignorance began to believe the messages mentioned, and please urge them to leave these heretical teachings and not spread them.
On this matter, I was obliged, in order to highlight the purity of Catholic faith, obedience and unity with the Holy Father, and for the sake of salvation of your souls.
Dedicated to Lord V + Sečka Stephen, Bishop of Spis​

Note: I don't believe the bishop is condemning "The Warning" (also refered to as the Illumination), but the warnings as depicted by MDM.
To read the original untranslated text (or post your opinions and comments), go to www.MiraculousRosary.blogspot.com. And for further reading check out Maria Divine Mercy, Schism! A Deception of Satan

 

I wish more authoritative church officials would rule on this false prophet too !

 

I know a few priests who are ga-ga over this visionary. Seriously marian and good priests! Their credibility is totally gone now....we need to pray for them!

 

That's the one thing that drives me crazy ,is priests supporting a visionary who rails against the Pope ! How can they consider themselves obedient to the church if they believe this non sense ? We are living in some scary times for sure.

 

And just to back this up, look at this comment from
http://miraculousrosary.blogspot.fr/2013/05/message-to-mdm-followers.html?showComment=1368489684384
Conclusive incriminating evidence as if anyone needed it!!

 

Peter, some friends of mine have put together a page on facebook called "Exposing MDM" if you're interested, we'd love to have another educated voice. https://www.facebook.com/groups/exposingMDM/

 

There is a lot of money invested in MDM, its gone right across the world. You hear about its impact all over the place. Not just on the web but in printed matter too. Amazing

 

I stumbled upon MDM's site while searching something about the Warning in Google. It must have been November 2012 when I first read anything on that site. Right away, I had concern and questions, so I emailed them, a couple times. Right away I got an email back from someone who said her name was Grace, and she called herself Maria's assistant. One of my first concerns was the "slickness" of the site, and the sales of books. Here is the email exchange:

Subject: Re: Contact Us - jon

Dear Jon,

With the exception of the introduction which is short everything is available for free on the internet. Jesus request the books for those who do not have access to the internet or are uncomfortable reading on line. Who knows how long we will be able to get the internet. At least we will be able to have a copy of the messages.

No money is being made on the books. It is a struggle to just get them printed and then reprinted and in all the languages that Jesus desires as He desires to reach all souls. No donations are accepted. All proceeds will go back into getting the work to souls. Believe me when I tell you no one is making money on these books. It is actually costing people money to get them out there.

Please keep Maria in your prayers.

---
God Bless,

Grace, Maria's assistant

On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 16:06:49 +0000, jon wrote:
> I would like to remain open to these messages, however, there is something that causes me to pause. The site seems too slick and geared toward selling these books. Nowhere is it explained where the money
> is going, why sell books in the first place, and what about profits? Are these "books" now to be considered public revelation? This invites obvious skepticism.
>
> Please respond.
>
> Thoughtfully,
> Jon

 

Since I had success getting some sort of prompt feedback, I then decided I would try a harder question after another month went by and I had paid a little attention to the messages at that point, and started having more concerns. I received another prompt reply from "Grace", but no actual answers this time. See below:

You are most welcome, Jon.

---
God Bless,

Grace, Maria's assistant

On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 12:11:37 -0500, Jon wrote:
> Certainly. I agree.
>
> Thanks again for your prompt reply.
> Jon
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Grace [mailto:info@thewarningsecondcoming.com]
> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 11:00
> To: Jon
> Subject: RE: Contact Us - jon
>
> Dear Jon,
>
> Maria has been forbidden by Jesus to comment on the Messages as He has told her that she is not qualified. May I suggest prayer for discernment on your part. Please keep the Our Father in mind.
>
> ---
> God Bless,
>
> Grace, Maria's assistant
>
> On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 04:30:00 -0500, Jon wrote:
>> Grace:
>>
>> I appreciated your prompt and straightforward email last month when I inquired about the website and books for sale. If you have a moment, I would like to ask a question, but I understand if it is something you may not be able to address.
>>
>> I will start by saying that I perceive many, many people are hopeful that they can trust the messages are genuine and true, and are paying attention to them. Yes there are also many that are rejecting them and talking about it online. I have never spoken negatively or positively online about the messages, but I have followed them closely each day. However, there is occasionally something in the messages that causes me concern when it appears to contradict the Church teaching. One such statement was contained in a recent 1-3-13 message:
>>
>> "I came to salvage the human race from sin, when I came the first time. Sadly, I was not welcomed. I was murdered and died on the Cross before I could claim My Kingdom. Now I will come again, as foretold, to claim the Kingdom, promised to Me by My Beloved Father. This time, I will prepare all of you for this event, for I promise you now, the greatest gift of all."
>>
>> I am having a hard time with accepting that Jesus would say: "I was murdered and died on the Cross before I could claim My Kingdom." It is clear throughout scripture, and in the teaching of the Church that Jesus knew he would be put to death, and He chose to lay His life down as the true Passover lamb, so we, His Church, could unite ourselves as living sacrifices to His eternal sacrifice in the Eucharist, where his necessary sacrifice becomes present in time and space at every mass, for the sake of the body, the Church. Therefore, it seems strange that He would communicate to the world that He would have liked to have claimed His Kingdom 2000 years ago, but was unable to stop those who put Him to death. That is what Judas thought He would do when arrested: manifest His Glory and claim His Kingdom at that time, but that was not the plan of salvation for us.
>>
>> In addition to this recent message, I perceive a large number of messages that are about Maria herself, and the persecution she endures, and are directed negatively at any who would question the prophet. I know this causes concern for those trying to discern the truth of the source of these messages as well, and are somewhat similar to some that are received in Medjugore.
>>
>> Again, I have not persecuted, nor have I rejected these messages at this point. I am just "testing the spirit" as we are instructed, and am having trouble with a few parts of some messages at this point. I know you may not have the time, or the authority to address my concerns, but I at least thought it would be right to express my concerns.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>> Jon

 

...those chains have to be read from the bottom up....

 

I remember reading somewhere that Maria was a marketing executive, might explain the slick presentation and accelerated world wide attention.The first time I found the web site it was obscure within aweek it was at the top of the google search, surely it was not from the quality of information.

 

I think its true when the attention of Mary/Jesus turns to the 'sufferings' and 'persecutions' of the visionaries themselves its a real heads up.

When I used to believe Christina Gallagher the final straw were semi hysterical threats by Jesus and Mary against those who doubted/criticised.

A classic one was this. Christina had her home and House of Prayer/ refuge on Achill Island. Apparently her neighbours on the island were having a lugh about the messages. 'Jesus' said that when all the islanders would be off at a football match Jesus would flood Ireland, destroy the bridge between Achill Island and the the mainland and when they returned the neighbours would all drown while Christina and friends were safe on the island.

Its not too hard to see a bit of nasty wish fulfillment here.

I am sorry but that these two very famous false visionaries both came from Ireland. It must be something in the air.

 

I am glad this site is here as an antidote to the "others". I read MDM's site before I found my way here - to be honest, it was something else that gave me another headache.

Anyway I do not know a lot about prophecy, but the one thing I do know is that Jesus is with the Church he founded and will be right to the end.

Anything that is said that disputes that, I think must be false....

Thats my tuppence worth.