Wars and rumors of wars on the TLM and Summorum Pontificum”?

https://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2021/10/bombshellnew-internal-cdf-information.html

BOMBSHELL—New internal CDF information shows Pope Francis flagrantly lying about bishops’ TLM survey
The full transcript of Diane Montagna's revelatory lecture at the Catholic Identity Conference 2021, held in Pittsburgh this past weekend, has just been published at The Remnant, enriched with additional material. "Traditionis Custodes: Separating Fact from Fiction" includes extensive quotations from the internal CDF document in which the bishops who responded predominantly spoke favorably of Summorum Pontificum and the TLM in their dioceses (some even requested help with establishing the Mass). It also includes inside information about the crooked path by which Traditionis Custodes was pre-designed, with the survey used as a convenient screen for a foreordained decision.


Excerpt:



"Sometimes things are not as they seem. And sometimes, there are two 'realities': one that is officially given by those in power, and one that we then discover to be the truth....



"According to Pope Francis, the consultation of bishops played a fundamental role in his decision to severely restrict the traditional Mass. As he said himself, the results so 'preoccupied and saddened' him, that they 'persuaded' him to 'intervene.' And he ordered that the decree take immediate effect. Following the promulgation of Traditionis Custodes, considerable speculation was therefore swirling about the survey, but the Vatican has not published its results....



"But does Traditionis Custodes truly reflect what the real situation is? Was the survey on which Pope Francis said he based his decision a fair consultation of the world’s bishops? Would this consultation be considered fair if some of the content of Traditionis Custodes had already been suggested during a plenary meeting of the CDF, at the end of January 2020, that gave way to a consultation that was meant to justify the decisions reached in Traditionis Custodes? Could it be called fair if it came to light that there was a second, parallel report created within the Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith, which was completed before all the responses from bishops had been received by the CDF? And could it be called fair if Traditionis Custodes did not accurately represent the main, detailed report prepared for Pope Francis by the CDF’s fourth section, i.e., the former Ecclesia Dei? Many people, in fact, knew that this report was being prepared.

"Let’s examine what has now come to light about each of these three questions."

Thank you, Diane Montagna, for your tireless work in uncovering the truth, unsavory as it too often is, of what is really going on in the Vatican. (Read the whole exposé here.)

Now a word to Diane and any Vaticanistas who have access to the CDF internal report: please, for the love of God and the love of Holy Mother Church, find a way to publish this report IN FULL, so that all the world can see the lies exposed, and with them, the mettle of the people who are assaulting the tradition of the Roman Church. Its full publication would be as great a moment of clarity as Archbishop Viganò's McCarrick revelations in August 2018. This is an urgent duty of conscience: the pontifical secret cannot be invoked for hiding malice and mendacity.

 

Transcript of very important / relevant quotes from Bishop Schneider:

 

“What earlier generations held as sacred, remains sacred and great for us, too.” —Pope Benedict XVI, Letter to the Bishops of the World, July 7, 2007. This was a letter of clarification which Benedict wrote to explain why he had issued the motu proprio Summorum Pontificum on that same day, 14 years ago (link)

"The response of Catholics to this draconian and unjust motu proprio(Traditionis custodes) has been much thoughtful analysis, but also an outpouring of prayer. And already, in only three months, the truth is being revealed." —a commenter named "Sonny's mom" at this link; it is the 17th comment down

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Letter #131, 2021, Monday, October 11: The story behind Traditionis custodes

Feast of Pope John XXIII

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Today's letter contains a fascinating story (here in English, and here, in Italian) by American Catholic journalist and writer Diane Montagna.

This may be the most important story of the year for Catholics, the Catholic Church, and this papacy, and for this reason, Montagna, an old friend, is to be applauded for her work.

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It is a story of what seem clearly to be distortions and manipulations at the highest levels of the Vatican, covered up until now, revealed by Montagna on the basis of solid documentary evidence.

Montagna's report should be read by all Catholics, especially by those on the "progressive" side, because it reveals why Catholics on the "conservative" side feel abused and deceived by recent decisions of Pope Francis on liturgical matters of profound importance to their spiritual lives.

Such Catholics feel deceived because, if what Montagna reports is true — and it seems to be true — they have, in fact, been deceived.

The consultative process leading to the issuing of Traditionis custodes was presented by the Vatican as fair and above board.

But this research shows that the process was, in fact, not fair, transparent and above board.

The process, this research shows, was tendentious, opaque, unfair.

Pope Francis himself was, it seems, manipulated, in order that he might give his signature to a document in which the facts of the matter were not represented to him in an accurate way.

Pope Francis needs to be told about this research by Montagna.

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The essence of the story

By a very careful reading of unpublished Vatican documents that Montagna managed to obtain in recent months, she has been able to show convincingly that, when Pope Francissigned the July 16 decree Traditionis custodesto suppress the celebration of the Mass in the old Tridentine rite, he had not been fully and honestly informed by his advisors about the results of surveys that had been done throughout the world on the pros and cons of continuing to follow the "compromise solution" in liturgical proposed by Pope Benedict XVI in his motu proprio Summorum Pontificum of July 7, 2007.

In that 2007 solution, Benedict affirmed that the old liturgy was profoundly holy and worthy to be celebrated perpetually as the "extraordinary form" of the liturgy of the Church, and that all priests were free to celebrate Mass in that form, because it is essentially good.

But in his July 16, 2021 decree Traditionis custodes, Pope Francis said that the results of surveys taken by the Vatican around the world had shown that the "Benedict solution" was not working very well, that it was causing problems and divisions, and that, therefore, he had decided to suppress the old liturgy.

Francis wrote in Traditionis custodes: "In line with the initiative of my Venerable Predecessor Benedict XVI to invite the bishops to assess the application of the Motu Proprio Summorum Pontificum three years after its publication, the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith carried out a detailed consultation of the bishops in 2020. The results have been carefully considered in the light of experience that has matured during these years. At this time, having considered the wishes expressed by the episcopate and having heard the opinion of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, I now desire, with this Apostolic Letter, to press on ever more in the constant search for ecclesial communion."

So Francis says the results of the 2020 consultation of the world's bishops were "carefully considered."

Also on July 16, Francis wrote in an accompanying explaining his thinking in Traditionis custodes: "With the passage of thirteen years, I instructed the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith to circulate a questionnaire to the Bishops regarding the implementation of the Motu proprio Summorum Pontificum. The responses reveal a situation that preoccupies and saddens me, and persuades me of the need to intervene. Regrettably, the pastoral objective of my Predecessors, who had intended 'to do everything possible to ensure that all those who truly possessed the desire for unity would find it possible to remain in this unity or to rediscover it anew,' [12] has often been seriously disregarded. An opportunity offered by St. John Paul II and, with even greater magnanimity, by Benedict XVI, intended to recover the unity of an ecclesial body with diverse liturgical sensibilities, was exploited to widen the gaps, reinforce the divergences, and encourage disagreements that injure the Church, block her path, and expose her to the peril of division."

So Francis says the responses to the questionnaire sent out to the bishops "reveal a situation that preoccupies and saddens me, and persuades me of the need to intervene."

Thus it seems clear that Francis did in fact decide to issue Traditionis custodes on the basis of the results of this survey as they were reported to him, results that "saddened" him because they focused on the "disunity" that his advisors told him was being caused by the love of the old liturgy.


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Now what Montagna has shown is that Pope Francis was likely himself deceived, and that the surveys he refers to do not show the problems and divisions that Francis tells us he was advised they do show.

The bottom line here is this: Montagnashows that the reasons put forward for the decree Traditionis custodes are reasons without a solid basis in fact, baseless reasons.

This casts grave doubt on the credibility and, indeed, the validity of this document.

It suggests that, if Pope Francis had known of the evidence Montagna has uncovered, he would have recognized that his own advisors had not served him well, and would not have issued Traditionis custodes.

Based on this analysis of the actual data by Montagna, Traditionis custodes should seemingly now be seen as a document conceived, drafted and promulgated based on manipulated, or misinterpreted, data.

And, if this is the case, Francis might rightly declare Traditionis custodes to have been vitiated from the very moment of the decision to prepare and issue it, and so a document he might rightly declare null and void, and withdraw.

Here below is the complete text of the Montagna investigation of the seeming manipulation behind Traditionis custodes.

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First, a letter on this story

I received the following letter on this story from Dr. Peter Kwasniewski, an expert on the Church's liturgy, a graduate of Thomas Aquinas College in California and of the Catholic University of America in Washington, D.C.:

October 8, 2021

Dear Robert,

I was present when Diane gave this talk at the CIC (Catholic Identity Conference) in Pittsburgh last weekend (October 2 and 3). To describe the room of 700+ as electrified would be an understatement. (...) This exposure of shameless mendacity marks a new low-point in the three years since the McCarrick revelations. It is all of a piece, an entirely consistent record in which the occasional sops thrown to Catholic believers serve as distractions from the real business at hand, which is laying the groundwork for the suppression of all the elements distinctive of Catholicism prior to the Second Vatican Council, and indeed, of anything Catholic that survived the Council, such as John Paul II's pellucid moral theology and Benedict XVI's rich liturgical theology.

You may quote any of the above. By the way, I've known Diane for over twenty years. She was a student in my courses at the International Theological Institute (in Austria) in the early 2000s. She became a close personal friend of my wife and me, and then the goddaughter of our daughter. Her integrity is pristine and rigorous. She would never report any of this without having the actual CDF report in her hands and verified from trustworthy Vatican sources.

—Dr. Peter A. Kwasniewski









Editor’s Note by Remnant Editor Michael Matt: This talk, delivered at the Catholic Identity Conference on October 3, 2021, has been edited by the author for print. —MJM

Translations:

Italian

French

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The Hidden Story behind Traditionis Custodes (link)

by Diane Montagna (photo left)

“Nothing is hidden that shall not be made manifest, nor anything secret that shall not be known and come to light” (Lk 8:17).



[Note: Everything below is by Diane Montagna; the sections which follow the large red quotation marks are callouts from her article.]

Read Diane’s article at the Remnant link

 

Diane’s article at the link is a must read!!!

 

I don’t have any inside information but I suspect this was his own agenda all along. The idea he was “lied to” is a way of giving him an “out” in my opinion, so he can correct the situation without losing face.

 

https://onepeterfive.com/clandestine-ordinations-against-church-law-lessons-from-cardinal-wojtyla-and-cardinal-slipyj

 

Yet BOTH were obviously illicit consecrations for the good of the Faithful, which is Dr. K’s point. And Dr. K is not otherwise an apologist for the SSPX; he has openly criticized them numerous times.