Wars and rumors of wars on the TLM and Summorum Pontificum”?

May Our Lord bless you, and your family PF. Our Heavenly Father will lead you to the Truth.

 

Such faith is an example to us all. Your son is blessed to have you for a mother.

If it's any consolation to you, I believe that going to a legitimate Mass is the right decision for you. You are teaching your son obedience to lawful authority which far too few children learn today.

I also believe that the SSPX will be regularised. Pope Francis reached out to them when he was a Cardinal and has maintained good relations with them. It's prayer and sacrifice like yours that will bring us out of these troubling times. They are guaranteed to get a response from Heaven. You and your son could be going to a licit, valid Mass in that little SSPX church soon.

May God bless you and all your family. You have been an inspiration to me in many ways.

 

This is the truth. We had 5 priests in our pre-VaticanII parish. They all showed up at Communion time to help distribute. Now one priest is responsible for 2 or 3 parishes at a time in some places near here, in the next diocese north of here in Baltimore Diocese. Sad because it was actually the very first Diocese in the USA. Like I said, I am not getting into a twist over this. Thank you, whatever. I will continue to pray for the Church as Fr. Superior of the FSSP recommended and try my best to be respectful to Our Lord in the Blessed Sacrament. The other decisions are out of my control as a layperson. As long as the Mass is valid, the priest has the intentions to confect, and the materials required, the priest intends to pray the Church's intentions, then I am satisfied. My pastor has great reverence.
I must keep it simple.

 

So sad. But time out for prayer can only ever be a good thing.

Luke 5:16

But Jesus often withdrew to lonely places and prayed.

 

Why I like the Old Mass....

 

That was Easter in the Austrian Tyrol. Did you notice that nearly all the young people in the church were dancing with the priest? Lay participation .

No wonder the Austrian pachamama destroyer is a traditionalist.

 

If this doesn't reach God's ears I don't know what will.

I hope you won't stay away long from the forum but I think the break will do you good.

 

Another reason why there were fewer communicants Pre-Vatican II is because Sin was preached from the pulpit and you knew better than to go to communion without having gone recently to confession. I know people that have not been to confession since their first confession and yet receive every Sunday.

I only receive from the beautiful hands of a priest or a transitional deacon. It's my personal preference. I have attended masses where a perfectly able bodied young priest after consecration sits down and lets the extraordinary ministers give communion. At those time, I do not receive communion, instead I pray quietly in my pew and say a Spiritual Communion.


I have seen my priest have to fight off over-eager Eucharistic Ministers trying to "cut into" his line to distribute communion. I'm sure the EM's think they are helping the priest, but I quietly cheered on my priest.
I absolutely loved it during the stage of covid return when none of the EM's were distributing communion. Yes it took more time for communion, but it gave more time for quiet adoration and contemplation.
Something I think the NO is desperately missing.

I have heard there is a NO mass/ church far enough enough away from me to make it not practical to go to that does the NO mass but does it all in Latin, faces ad orientem, all the singing is done as gregorian chant, and the church still uses their altar rail for communion with no EM's. I SO wish my church did the same. I'm sure I would still prefer the TLM mass (because of the rubrics) but it would make the NO mass more........more, if that makes sense.

 

What an inspiring poem . Thank you.

 

Ohhhh, AED…your post never fail! I gasped at all of it because it is so true!
Past all of that, the thing that I love best in so many of your post, and which resonates in a subtle way, is humility….
Your response to your husband what was needed here( I didn’t say, deserved) , “I stormed out, said a DM chaplet and came back and apologized. And so did he. ("A gentle answer turned away wrath"???)”…..
Now that’s grace and humility….very hard, very hard. Surely God knew it was too, but it was the right thing….(EVEN THOUGH YOUR HUSBAND WAS WRONG AND YOU WERE 100% RIGHT! )….lol…we know so you don’t have to tell him!

 

God bless you Beth. Your words are so kind. I wasn't feeling very humble at first. I was steaming. But God's grace came to the rescue.

 

Well AED, you’re too humble to even know this about yourself, but you certainly inspired me to be less prideful and exercise more humility, regardless if I feel in right or not. ( by the way….you were right! Lol!)

 

Ditto.

 

Dear PF…probably most of us are struggling…in so many ways. Just know that although we don’t always see eye to eye,
We are the family of God and I hope you and everyone here know that they are loved!
Take a break and come back to the fold. God bless everyone on this forum….the Mother of God.

 

PF, Please come back soon.

 

Here is a video of Fr. Mitch Pacwa speaking to a group of pilgrims in Qumran where the Dead Sea Scrolls were found. Fr. Pacwa is explaining what led to the Essene monks setting up their community in that area and the state of affairs with God's chosen people. I'm sure that we all could match with the various groups people we know or think we know . How many of us would take a long hard look at ourselves and maybe see how others would consider us to be a perfect fit for one of the groups? The video is only 11 minutes long but packed with information. Worth a look if only to see the wilderness where John the Baptist was raised and began preparing the way of the Lord.



Purple Flower was right. I certainly need to do some searching of my own heart.

 

I'll pray for you everyday, PF, until the peace that passes all understanding recaptures your heart and we hear from you again!

Remember the love God expresses for us all from Jeremiah:

I have loved you with an everlasting love and am constant in My affection for you!

 

This is fascinating. Thank you for posting. Fr Pacwa is an excellent teacher/scholar. I wish I could go on one of his Holy Land trips.
I see what you mean about the different groups mentioned. I read once--and have seen it in my own exoeriences--that protestant sects are all about holiness and perfection whereas the Catholic Church is like a huge net of fish of all kinds. A sort of "y'all come!" It may be Chesterton who noted that fact. Saints and sinners and everyone in between. Jesus was such a contrast to the Pharisees because He welcomed everyone(" your master eats with sinners!")
Perhaps this ongoing tendency in our Faith to make "the perfect the enemy of the good" needs to be looked at. I-- like you--am trying to examine myself too. We all need to do those gut checks in our spiritual life.