They've come for Fr. Altman...

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Slow to anger….Abortion has murdered over a billion children now in the world, when do we finally get to be angry about it?I think we all have been a little slow about being angry…. Why did our American soldiers go into battle to free the Jews from Hitler, my 21 uncle died to give freedom for us against evil. In the USA, many men died in the civil war to free the slaves? That is real anger, when you have to fight a war with real weapons, and real death for freedom. But to speak up for the butchering of children is too much. All my life in the USA, I have heard maybe one little comment about abortion from the priests. We who have been doing the praying, fasting, marching for the unborn applaud that some priests are finally speaking for these poor defenseless unborn children that are being massacred for almost 50 years in this country! I would say 50 years is slow….

 

PurpleFlower, are you not judging Father Altmann? Did it ever occurred to you that maybe he is NOT seeking celebrity status? Maybe, his intentions are pure! Yet, you just accused him of pride, and only wanting to be popular instead of real concern for his congregation and their souls! Where is your charity for Father Altmann. It works both ways. Father Altmann is a good priest, that needs our prayers, and compassion, not our judgement.

 

When; at the end of all things we find ourselves , naked, trembling and alone before the Tribunal of the Most Just God to for our Eternal Judgement His one question will be,

'How did you live your life?

Not,

'How did your Bishops live their lives?'

Not,

'How did your Priests live their lives?'

Not,

'How did your neighbours live their lives?'

No, the question will be,

'How did you live your life?'

It is for this reason the finger of accusation is always in the first place pointed inwards rather than outwards. If we must be indignant and angry let them in very first place be an anger and indignation at our own sins, rather than at the sins of others.

We may have no power, other than through prayer and fasting to change lives, but through the grace of God, we have untold power to change ourselves.

..and so Jesus said...

 

No I didn't say that and don't believe it either. I believe his intentions are good but people are turning him into a celebrity which is possibly stoking pride. He appears to be getting a bit carried away. I said in my last post I haven't pointed any of this out to condemn him. My purpose is to kind of sound an alarm for ALL of us, including myself, to be careful and watchful against pride and a lack of charity creeping up while we're all appalled at what the hierarchy is doing. If anyone remembers my posts over the last month, you'll know I've been trying to turn the tide away from condemnation of "enemies" in the Church toward a more careful reflection on our own response and our own need for more prayer and sacrifice to combat it with grace! These are such terribly troubling times and people are getting confused about what their response should be. What I'm seeing is a general push toward disrespect and disobedience of the hierarchy (not here so much, but in blogs and such), and a more and more bitter animosity toward perceived enemies within our Church... And I'm not alarmed because I want to condemn people, but because I see schism on the horizon. We are in a dangerous place right now, and we know from the saints that humility and obedience are our safeguards.

 

Mary, When the Blessed Mother spoke to Sr Agnes in October of 2019, right at the time of the Pachamama abomination, She said to put on sackcloth and pray the penitential rosary. Those were her instructions to us!

 

Yes, this is why I'm so curious about what people think we're supposed to "do" instead of praying, fasting, etc. Mary and Jesus have been appearing for a couple centuries with instructions on how to combat evil. They don't say, "Get loud, go fight, make your voices heard!" They say, "Pray, make sacrifices, amend YOUR lives."

 

Yes, they do say to pray, make sacrifices and amend your lives. As far as pro life issues, there are many Catholic groups who pray in front of abortion clinics and who work and volunteer with Birthright. These are our Catholic “soldiers on the ground. “

 

I think Fr Altman crossed the line when he was damning the Bishops. And yes, he needs our prayers. That is what we have been saying all along.

 

You said in a earlier post he was having a hissy fit. What is kind about these words to describe Father Altman? Father Altman is on the front line of this battle, we are on a blog. I do fast, pray, and sacrifice for our church. I imagine many of us are, including Father Altman. You think he crossed the line, but Mother Mary, I believe it was Garamandal , I could be wrong if was not that exact Apparition, but said many bishops are headed for hell and taking many souls with them. What about the loss of souls? Is it not the job of the pastor to be concerned about the loss of his parishioners? It was concerning enough for the mother of God to come down to earth and tell us...

 

Possibly stoking pride, Possibly, but necessary a fact. He appears to be getting carried away, that is an opinion.... I have listen to Father Altman a long time. I have found him to be a good and holy priest! Which we sorely need in America right now. If someone told me they were going to have an abortion, I would speak up, and plead with them not to. I would not just leave it to pray, fast, and sacrifice. If my child told me that they were going to have an abortion, I would tell them they could be damned for it! Because it is true, and God put me in a position of authority to speak, just like Father Altman with his Parishioners and the faithful who listen to him. God gave us a voice, and at times we are expected to use it. Or what on earth is the point?

 

With respect, Mary. You are getting personal with me. There is nothing wrong with my saying he was having a hissy fit because he was. Now I am out of discussing this. I have made my point as kindly as I can. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Please stop scolding me, second time I have asked that.

 

I was also trying to make my point as kindly as I could to you as well. I most certainly was not trying to get personal with you, I was defending Father Altman, because I think he deserves the benefit of the doubt.

 

Well said PF!!!!
Fatima Pilgrims' approach sounds like the apostle who cut off the ear of one of the soldiers who accosted Jesus in the garden.

NOT the way to go !!! That attitude comes from anger and pride ... definitely not what Jesus wants us to do.

 

Just remember what I said, Mary. Enough is enough.

 

Well said.

 

Well said.

 

M. Voris and Doug Barry and others see Fr Altman as a kind of catalyst in this spiritual warfare we are enduring. They say as much in this meeting on you tube I mentioned a while ago. They are fighting mad and the sense is "enough is enough" with persecuting good priests and letting "heterodox" priests spread their poison. This ralley--i guess its a ralley--is a call to arms basically. It troubles me because as much as I understand and sympathize I can't help but think of Martin Luther and others who were fighting mad about the rampant corruption in the Church and look at how off the rails that was and what terrible damage it caused and is STILL causing. It literally tore apart the Mystical Body of Christ. I don't know the answer to any of this. But fiery anger righteous as it may be must not go that sad road Luther took. I am sure at the time he thought he was in the right in defying the hierarchy but he couldn't wait on God to purify His Church. He began his own counter offensive. The wreckage of that righteous anger is all around us. I don't know the answer to any of this but as a lowly foot soldier and daughter of Mary I am trying to "put on ashes and pray penitential Rosaries". I have by my many grievous past sins added my straw to the camel's load and this chastisement saints have told us indicates the depth of anger of God (allowing evil priests and hierarchy) toward the Church and the world--I am falling back on the words a very holy priest spoke to me in confession after "Amoris laetitia" :
"You have a right to be angry. We should all be angry. It will not be allowed to stand.. But God is permitting this for the purification of the Church. We must pray."

 

Actually I have been thinking and praying about this the last few months. Where do the Modernist heretics go wrong? What is their essential problem, or mistake? Or to put it another way what specific temptation of the Devil have they succumbed to? This is important because it can drag people , good decent Catholics down the same awful rabbit hole these heretics have already fallen down. One French writer put it very well , 'Beware that in fighting the dragon, that you yourself do not become the dragon'. If we choose to fight the dragon of heresy on the same battle field that the Devil himself has chosen, we ourselves do indeed risk the danger of becoming dragons ourselves.

The essential error of the heretics, the Modernists (and I believe Pope St Pius x mentions this in Pascendi Dominici Gregis) is to view things that should be viewed in a supernatural light in a purely human, political, material way that kills the Spirit. They are essentially viewing things politically. The danger is that in combating them we become political ourselves. Thus we move into their battle field. We become the dragon.

One sure thing about Modernists is that the very first thing they do (as did their Protestant forebears) is to attack the Mystical. So they go for the Eucharist, Devotion to the Blessed Virgin, the Sacrament, Celibacy, Chastity, Marriage and so on.

We must be careful in battling these awful people that we don;t think politics are the answer to politics.

As St Paul said 'The Spiritual Man views all things spiritually.

It's the same with the War between Satan and the Blessed Virgin. They are both coming from entirely different places. The devil comes from a place of pride and lodges himself very much in the political. the material. ..as of course do his children.

The Blessed Virgin comes form the exact opposite place. From the little ones, from the Supernatural, the Mystical..the Spiritual...and altogether different stand point. She does not make the mistake so many people seem to make these days of using the devils weapons against the devil.

 

A good example of this I heard last night in life of St Bernadette. Bernadette's Novice Mistress had her tortured she hated the young girl. Why?

Well a clue came in a remark she made to a visiting priest. She asked why Our Lady had chosen a stupid, uneducated peasant rather than someone refined, well educated and of a better class (like herself) .

The essential mistake this nun was making (drawn from self pride) was to view supernatural goings on in a human, political way..the way the modernist heretics in their own way view things. Top down if you like, rather than bottom up. The way Our Lady does.

St Bernadette said a beautiful thing one time. She said humility is like a perfume, the only person who does not smell it is the one wearing it.

Pride and heresy go hand in hand.

..and a strange thing....heresy and pride go hand in hand with impurity. Find a heretic and you'll also find all kinds of sexual shennanigans going on in the background.