‘Your government is lying to you in a way that could lead to your death.’

Discussion in 'Positive Critique' started by padraig, Apr 8, 2021.

  1. Dolours

    Dolours Guest

    It was just one person and my regret now is that my pm response was overly harsh. I'll need to take that to Confession as soon as the lockdown is lifted because I should have made allowances for the effect this climate of fear is having on people. It's just as well there was no politician within striking distance of my handbag when I heard my sister say "Please, son, get vaccinated or I'll never see you again". Anyway, prayer is the answer. Fasting too if only I had enough willpower.
     
  2. Mary's child

    Mary's child Powers

    It crossed my mind too but because of my conscience I opted not to go there. Felt like it was not an honest thing to do.
    Better for me to die and enter the gates of Heaven than chance of losing my room in God's house.
     
  3. Malachi

    Malachi Archangels

    That would be being wise and prudent.
     
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  4. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie

    Me too....got tested yesterday. Would love to have the antibodies for just the price of a cold, but I’m not that lucky...
     
  5. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie


    I agree on one hand, but I also don’t believe that we need to cooperate with unjust laws. I actually believe that submitting to a law that could endanger your life is wrong....what is the greater evil...?
    I think my conscience would be clear. I believe that the church cooperated with forging papers for Jews to protect them from the nazis....if that was acceptable, I think this would be too. To not cooperate with evil is a good thing... just my thoughts.....
     
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  6. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    I understand what you are saying, but not sure I could follow through.
     
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  7. Denmomof3

    Denmomof3 Principalities

    Dolours, I'm so sorry for your sister and your nephew. I think that was a reason that I decided to get vaccinated. I wanted to be able to see my elderly parents and it was basically expected in my family if we are to have close contact with them. My father especially has really poor health. Both of my parents were vaccinated and then everyone else followed. I was one of the last ones because I didn't really wish to do it but the pressure was there and I gave in. I also have my own health issues but that honestly didn't scare me as much. I think for me the anxiety that I get comes from hearing the negative side effects the vaccinations may have and knowing there is now nothing that I can do about it anymore. All I can do is pray and leave it in God's hands.
    I'm very sorry that you had to deal with someone attacking you. It's ok to disagree and question things but it really shouldn't get to that level. God bless you Dolours and I hope things work out for your sister and her son.
     
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  8. Katfalls

    Katfalls Powers

    oh no, another report about the negative effects of the jab. Well, they said it would be about three months. This from my son "shelly told me a teacher collapsed from internal bleeding at IM school and had to have an emergency hysterectomy - a week or 2 after getting the vaccine. lots of reports of feminine type issues after the vaccine. not good."
     
  9. padraig

    padraig Powers

    We have each of us to follow our own consciences. I suppose mine is more flexible than most. But certainly if you think it is a lie, I wouldn't do it. But if they want a piece of paper or an Ap before letting me into a certain country, I wouldn't be too long buying one. :D
    If it came down to it and I had to buy something like a Passport , well I'd but that too and if I had to travel on a fishing boat instead of an air plane I'd do that too. But I've spent a good part of my life evading unjust authorities. It would not bother me in the least to do it some more. I have no great moral urgency about cooperating with them in the future.

    When the Church sent Catholic Missionaries into places like the Soviet Bloc in the past, you can bet your bottom dollar they printed out very High Quality false documents from the Vatican for them.
    I'd be very surprised indeed if there are not, somewhere in the world, Catholic Missionaries working under false Vatican supplied documentation of one kind or another.

    Sauce for the Vatican goose, sauce for the lay gander.

    Matthew 10:16

    Sheep among Wolves
    15Truly I tell you, it will be more bearable for Sodom and Gomorrah on the day of judgment than for that town. 16Behold, I am sending you out like sheep among wolves; therefore be as shrewd as snakes and as innocent as doves. 17But beware of men; for they will hand you over to their councils and flog you in their synagogues.…


     
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  10. padraig

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  11. Malachi

    Malachi Archangels

    There is absolutely nothing wrong with Padraigs suggestion. It is good to ensure that out consciences are in line with objective truth, sincerity of conscience really doesnt count for much. Id say Hitler was pretty certain he was doing the right thing .
    Unjust laws are not to be obeyed.
     
  12. Katfalls

    Katfalls Powers

    Good points. I always like other perspectives . .

     
  13. FatimaPilgrim

    FatimaPilgrim Powers

    100% agreed and this truth will be very important going forward...
     
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  14. Katfalls

    Katfalls Powers

    Yeah, just talking to my husband about this. Makes sense.

     
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  15. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie

    I’m not totally sure myself..I’m just trying to logic it out. Above my pay grade, but just my thoughts....
     
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  16. FatimaPilgrim

    FatimaPilgrim Powers

    We must learn from history and not become "The Good Germans" . We must not comply with unjust laws and commands, from civil authorities or any authorities, but also stand up and speak Truth and defend the innocent in the face of the persecution: https://townhall.com/columnists/den...ow-better-understand-the-good-german-n2582563
     
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  17. Mary's child

    Mary's child Powers

    Myself as well, even if my conscience allowed me, I would have a hard time not appearing guilty. :unsure:
     
  18. Malachi

    Malachi Archangels

    The Lord himself urged us to be as wise as serpents and gentle as doves. We will do what we have to do but without sin. We are dealing with evil evil men and their wicked plans. I will do all that I can to turn it on their heads.
     
  19. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    :D
     
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  20. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Little adventures like this are what keep us ever young. It will take ten years of your appearance.

    Thank the Good God if He sends you such little adventures and excitements in your life.

    Be happy and enjoy.

    What a Great Gift!

    What Wonderful stories to tell:):)


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