Taking the Vaccine in Obedience to the Church

He’s also a material heretic. Some say he’s a formal heretic, but only The Church can decide that.

Regardless, that alone gives pause to the idea we must give assent to each and every one of his often wrong statements.

 

Thanks.

My sincere apologies for sounding so harsh!

The more research I do, the MORE alarmed I’m getting!

This event has “radical global depopulation” written all over it. And that is the exact agenda of the global elites pushing this gene therapy.

PLEASE, wake up people, before it’s too late!!!

Stop worrying about being “right” in an online debate, stop buying into the MSM/government/tech oligarchs propaganda, and start worrying how we avert this coming global catastrophe.

 

Jason Fernando posted this 30 or so minutes video on another thread. It's a microbiologist/ doctor. It's an excellent video. He talks near the end about a global movement to try to stop what is happening, people like us who want this to stop. I am not typically one to watch each and every video posted on this forum but I really got a lot out of this.

 

You are, of course, 100% correct, doctor.

 

Excellent. Simply superb video presentation by the esteemed doctor.

I can’t for the life of me grasp how any informed rational and reasonable Catholic can watch this video, then think for one second they owe any “obedience” to the monstrous recommendation of this pope that we take this nefarious gene therapy.

 

Amazing

 

Brian I keep going back to Fr Roux’s letter. His analysis was very much like Archbishop Sheen and Malachi Martin.
Strangely enough both Bill Gates and Pope Francis are the most popular and most admired in the world. Makes you think.
https://www.spiritdaily.org/roux.htm

 

This is up there with the best ones I’ve watched since this nightmare began. I will forward. Thank you for bumping Jason’s post here, HH.

 

“What does it profit a man if he gain the whole world and yet loses his soul?”

 

I am wondering if the vax lowers the immune system to infections. Two of my cousins are experiencing severe infections. One cousin had a small stroke after his first jab. Now he is in the hospital with a bad foot infection, if it has gone into the bone they will have to amputate his foot. My other cousin passed out two weeks ago. He woke up 17 hours later in a hospital room wondering where he was. He has a huge bladder/ kidney infection. So, I am observing what is going on around me.

 

Are you all reporting this? It’s important.

 

Reporting to who? These are my observations. . . . .


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Many will yet, I do not believe he is speaking "infallibly" ex cathedra.

 

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Go to the CDC website. There is a link for reporting adverse events or reactions!!

 

Prayers for all. I believe if we take the vaccine or do not take it in informed good conscience then it is not sinful. However actions one way or the other have consequences.

Prayers for all who are in a bad situation over this.

 

I can't keep up with everything on these threads, but wanted to recommend that people listen to Dr Mikovits again because this is what she is talking about. She is the virologist who was silenced by Dr Fauci when she and her team discovered that vaccines and blood supplies were tainted with XMRV which is a retrovirus (like HIV, the one that they said caused AIDS). If someone who is carrying retroviruses gets covid then they can get quite sick and if I understand her correctly, the meds like ivermectin, HCQ etc work for people with these retroviruses for whom coronaviruses will be more lethal because of the how the two (co-infections) behave together on the immune system. Because of the tainted blood and vaccines, millions of people have these co-infections and don't know it. Look on bitchute.com for interviews with her - the ones with Dr Mercola are interesting and she gets into this subject with him.

It has happened in the past that so-called "healthy" people would die from influenza, but they were shown to have co-infections of MRSA. So this idea that healthy people die of the flu is false, they have other infections, which may manifest in all kinds of ways or could be more-or-less dormant.

The thing is that people don't know and can't recognize the role of a faulty immune system response in syndromes like chronic fatigue among others (Dr Mikovits found XMRV present in people with chronic fatigue, cancer, autism, etc). There are some pretty weird things that can happen with wacky immune system responses, if I have time later I can post more about it. But Mikovits says that a single virus cannot cause all the issues that are said to be caused by this one virus and that there is more going on, but most often, the right tests are not done on patients and no autopsies neither after death.

 

Yes, and Dr. Mikovits is another one of the excellent and very important presenters at Patrick Coffins online seminar this weekend. You can register for free here: https://www.restoretheculture.com/?r_done=1

 

You are correct, Padraig. One way or another, there will be consequences. So, prayers.

 

Well said Brian! These are tough times for Catholics with all of the new technology and social issues. We have to have common sense in dealing with our current Pope. He also is a big supporter of Climate issues. So if the Pope asks you to stop using fossil fuel in order to show charity towards your neighbor, also siting that more persons die in car accidents per day than any other given thing, and says you are morally obliged to stop driving your car in order to not put your neighbor at risk....well it can go on and on...

 

Amen, and unfortunately it does go on and on which is why we are being warned to only follow the True Magisterium and reject the wayward ideas and doings of the current regime in the Vatican...more breaking news today on a scandal regarding health/life/pharmaceuticals being promoted from the Vatican...here's the report from Italy: https://www.fanpage.it/attualita/da...pillola-del-giorno-dopo-linchiesta-di-report/
and an English language report of it: https://www.pillarcatholic.com/p/vatican-criticized-for-investment

"The Holy See invested funds in a pharmaceutical company which produces an emergency contraceptive “morning after pill,” an Italian news outlet reported, but sold its shares in the company when the Vatican’s auditor reported the investment to senior Church officials.

According to a former senior official at the Secretariat for the Economy, the Vatican held the shares at the same time that former Vatican finance czar Cardinal George Pell pushed for policy that would have required Vatican investments to align with the principles of Catholic social teaching. Pell first proposed that policy when he was appointed to the Vatican in 2014, but when financial advisors pushed back on the plan, the cardinal’s efforts were stymied.

Libero Milone was until 2017 the first auditor general of the Vatican Curia, a position he held until Cardinal Angelo Becciu reportedly accused Milone of spying on him, and threatened him with criminal prosecution if he did not resign.

In an April 26 interview with Italian broadcaster Rai3, Milone said that APSA, the Holy See’s investment management and real estate office, had made investments that “did not correspond to the social doctrine of the Church.”

Rai3 reported that APSA held shares worth 20 million euros in two Swiss pharmaceutical companies: Roche and Novartis, which produces and distributes so-called emergency contraceptive pharmaceuticals. The report did not indicate whether Vatican employees or outside investment managers had initially made the investment, or were responsible for its oversight.

“Emergency contraceptives” can be used to prevent both ovulation and fertilization, and at least some such drugs, according to the Food and Drug Administration and other public health authorities, “may prevent a fertilized egg from attaching to the womb.”

According to Rai3, when the auditor general’s office discovered APSA investment in the pharmaceutical company, it was reported to senior Vatican officials, and the Novartis shares were sold in 2016.

Catholic doctrine holds that “human life must be respected and protected absolutely from the moment of conception.” A pharmaceutical preventing a human embryo from adhering to its mother’s uterine wall - the process called implantation - is regarded by Catholic doctrine to be an abortifacient.

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The former senior Vatican official told The Pillar that when Cardinal George Pell was appointed in 2014 the inaugural head of the Vatican’s Secretariat for the Economy, he proposed investment norms that would have prohibited the investment of any Vatican funds in companies seen to directly contravene Catholic social doctrine, including pharmaceutical companies producing abortifacients.

That effort was stymied by resistance both by curial officials and the Vatican’s financial advisors, the official said, and when Pell left the Vatican in 2017, a policy still had not been approved.

“The desire to have a clear policy for ethical investments was a priority under the initial phase of reforms which [Cardinal Pell] tried to bring in. It was on a very short list of top priorities, but virtually no progress was ever made.”

“The idea that you had to model the Church’s teaching in the way its money is invested was totally foreign to the people in charge of the money. Their absolute priority was making a return, there just wasn’t any other consideration, and the suggestion that there should be was treated as fanciful.”

Asked if a policy is now in place at APSA or other Curial departments regarding the alignment of Church investments with Catholic moral and social teaching, the former official told The Pillar that there was resistance to attempts to initiate such a policy.

“They didn’t have one when the work of financial reform began, and there wasn’t one [by the time Pell left in 2017],” they said. “I would be shocked to discover that one has been brought in over the last several years, such was the resistance [to the idea].”

Of the investments in the pharmaceutical companies, the former official said it was “new news to me” and that he was “shocked but not surprised.”

“What is so maddening about the resistance [to bringing in ethical investment standards] is that the Church has a lot to say about issues like modern slavery in the supply lines, moral means of research and development and so on.”

“She should be modeling this teaching, if for no other reason than that it’s good for business.”