I think this is unfair to WTW, who does not behave "like some evangelical on a mission to enlighten the ignorant." Perhaps a second reading will clear up this misapprehension. BTW, In the Gianna Sullivan "Unbridled Mercy" video you posted, you state: "MDM abuse should not be blamed on the real messenger heard on this video." But Sullivan has been rejected by her archbishop. The archbishop's declaration includes this statement: The Archdiocese of Baltimore is unable to support the message of the video "Unbridled Mercy" and has asked that sales of the video be discontinued immediately. http://www.miraclehunter.com/marian_apparitions/statements/emmittsburg.html. Maybe, Julia, you should remove the video, given the Church's position--which was arrived at after study by a commission of theologians.
Julia... I always respect your point of view on most subjects posted here .... because to me it seems that your reasoning is sound and in keeping with Catholic dogma. So ..I cant understand why you would say... about the video you posted: "Yes these messages were quickly condemned some years ago ... I......don't quite know what to make of that indeed. ..... there is a lot of compelling content." Isn't that a bit like .... telling someone that.. "here's a box of chocolates for you to enjoy...however there is ONE piece that is poisonous?? PS.. I did not view the video.
I am sorry, but don't recall posting a video and then pointing out that the message on it was condemned by the Church. If you can find the post, look on the bottom right hand corner where there is a number. For instance your post which I am replying to has the number #42 bottom right. I will be glad to revisit the post in question and clarify any misunderstanding. The only condemned messages I can recall were from a Dublin woman who called herself Maria Divine Mercy. Apart from that I remain puzzled. And I certainly would not post a video of this lady because she has been soundly condemned by her Bishop. By the way Ellen I am no expert. Just an old fashioned Irish Catholic with a stubborn streak. God have Mercy on me, God have Mercy on us all. Thank you for your encouraging words. God bless and have a Happy Easter.
One could also say that when St Paul was referring to taking that which is good, he meant good as in “approved by the Church.” That’s what I think. I don’t think he meant for us to go fishing around in a sea of prophecies that Bishops have not approved or have condemned. I seriously don’t think he meant to give us that license.
Ah, thanks Julia but remember that I'm no expert and could well be way off the mark about the political situation and the reason for the Bishops' apparent submission to the secular power. And I'm the last person in the world with any claim to the high moral ground. I'd need a hoist to catch a glimpse of it. I do know that there has been a massive decline in the Christian faith here. There's also a rise in interest in pre-Christian paganism as well as Eastern religions. That's worrying, especially bearing in mind what the exorcist Fr. Lampert said about exorcisms taking so much longer in formerly Christian countries whereas it's more often a case of one and done in countries where people are new to the faith. Of course, it doesn't help that some priests can't seem to distinguish between their own political ideologies and Christian social justice. I've just been told by someone that she had to switch off the Easter Vigil Mass from Clonard Monastery because the homily was a promotion of the BLM and Me Too movements in the US. If Atheistic Marxism does take over on this Island, a fair bit of the blame can be laid at the feet of priests who can't see the wood for the trees. As to the topic of this thread, we all need to be mindful that we could be held accountable should we promote prophets who go on to lead people astray. You have enough grounding in the Faith to back away from them if they turn sour, but you can't be sure that others will be able to spot evil dressed up as piety. Happy Easter to you, Julia, and everyone on Our Lady's forum. Christ is risen. He has truly risen. Alleluia.
Happy Easter, Dolours and to all who come here. Just read your summary of our political situation. It comes closest to reality of any that I've read. I think that we're almost perfectly set up for a communistic regime. Firstly, the majority are almost entirely unaware of what's going on. Secondly, our civil/public service is organised and structured in an almost perfectly 'soviet' manner. If the devil openly took over the country, this public service would be immediately effective and obedient in relentlessly carrying out his policies. This is not a comment on any or all individuals within that public service, but rather upon what is a Screwtapian system. We are witnessing it in action currently, whereby everything necessary is sacrificed as merely the means to the end of 'protecting' us from COVID, even if we have to die trying. All we need now is a regime with the ideology to fully utilise this bureaucracy. We are highly vulnerable to this possibility, now. For my own part, I am so angered with our present government that I crave their punishment in the polls, but options are extremely limited. I console myself, if Sinn Fein, whom I cannot vote for, attain government, with the fact that all our political parties are murderous, having either introduced abortion or failed to credibly object to it. But, we might be jumping out of the frying pan into the fire. Our best hope might be a unification that would introduce the DUP into our political dynamic, but such a development would, in order to happen, require many graces from Above. Perhaps, the possibility of such an event, introducing a large pro-life party into the political mix, is too good to be true. I'm after going off-topic, I realise, so I ought to comment on the original subject of the thread. I'll just leave it with the thought that it is best to only pay attention to private prophesy that has been approved by the Church, with the proviso that no prophesy after that of the last Apostle, forms part of the Faith. We typically have two hands, so there's always another one-all approved private prophesy began as being unapproved, but beware that the amount of private prophesy that remained unapproved or was outrightly condemned far outweighs that which was eventually approved. If one is going to give credence to prophesy that has not been officially approved one must discern it very carefully and knowledgeably. I wouldn't have any confidence in my own ability.
Dear Julia, You are without question a valued, respected member of this forum. I pray you do not feel attacked by opposing comments here. I think we are all struggling on our faith journey and trying to discern current prophecy. Yes, we will all not agree on a lot of it because so much of it is given to our own discernment. I pray we all love one another and we all exercise grace in our discussion / disagreements etc. The devil would like nothing better than to see our members here divided in a spirit of anger. I include myself and all members here. I like you Julia have strong opinions and so I can understand your feelings. I may not agree on this current one regarding prophecy, but I think you are trying very hard to remain charitable. I hope we all continue to agree to disagree...in charity. God bless and Happy Easter to all forum members. May Jesus guild and enlighten all of us ....and St. Michael protect us from the evil one.
Thank you Beth, you are absolutely right. I too often come across opinions which I do not agree with from other well respected forum members, and do not put in a reply, in order to keep the peace flowing freely. LOL Sometimes however a response is fed in from here, and fingers crossed there will not be shenanigans as a result. And no problem, I don't need to feel attacked, there is always the 'block' button. Would I be on the right track in thinking this forum no longer tolerates un approved apparitions. This would be news to me, I see messages posted from time to time on threads that are not from Church approved sources. I am free to take or leave them and usually do just that without comment. I have even posted an alleged message or two from one person whose Bishop supports her, and this has gotten kick back. I normally don't mind the kick back; but if we are narrowing the gate for sharing our Faith and the encounters we have. What is the point of a forum.
Thank you for your honesty. I see where you are coming from now. But not sure if papal caution is required from foot soldiers in case protestants or pagans visiting the forum might be confused. They can always come back and ask for clarity, and no doubt other forum members pick up the thread and input from solid doctrine and solid foundations that will in the end help open all our minds to a better understanding of our beautiful Faith. God bless you and thank you. You remind me of my mother, and we often had a good spar, followed by a cup of tea and a good laugh. Happy Easter.
Hi Julia, As to your request ... the video I'm referring to is listed as #11 and your response that I quoted is listed as #13. Happy Easter to you also!!
Happy Easter, Julia! I thought we were having a good conversation about the thread topic. Everything I wrote was about the topic and none of it was meant to come across as personal to you.
I enjoy your posts, Julia. Happy Easter. You share so well and pray so well. And you are down to earth.
Did I ever tell you, Julia, that you're the main reason I joined the forum? There were other reasons but it was your posts about Lough Derg that prompted me to sign up. I had promised years ago to do the pilgrimage in thanksgiving for answered prayers but never got around to it. So, I did an internet search to find out as much as I could and came across this forum. You were going to do Lough Derg. I thought "She sounds sensible; maybe I could tag along with her". I tried to sign up but made a mess of it and you were settled back home before I finally managed to become a member. I did get to Lough Derg but I think it was the following year. So thanks to you for giving me the confidence to bite the bullet. And while I'm in thanking mode, I can't forget to thank Border Collie for his help. Around that time, too, I was noticing trends that made me think that end times might be upon us, and I started taking an interest in prophecy. You're a rock of sense Julia. Don't think your open manner isn't appreciated because it is - very much so. There's no harm in having differing opinions, otherwise the forum would be a boring old echo chamber.
Dear Julia, I wish I had the answers to your questions...sadly, I don’t. I am not the most versed or enlightened member here and I cannot judge others as I may not be correct in many of my stated opinions myself. All I know...or believe is that we are all trying hard to be faithful. Sometimes when I feel inadequate to comment, I try to refrain, but often I do against my own better judgment. I apologize to anyone I may have offended. May Gods grace show us all mercy and when we do differ, it’s always in charity. Most of this is above me. God bless and have a peaceful and holy, blessed Easter!
What is Lough Derg? And yes, Julia is a rock of sense and I have enjoyed her posts for years. I remember her avatar as being a photo of her sitting in a car, if I recall correctly.
Louth Derg is a lake in Co. Donegal. There's a small island in the lake known as St. Patrick's purgatory where pilgrims spend two days fasting and praying.
