I think pence had a law passed through a judge where he doesn’t have to decide on the legiticy of the election.. Am I correct?
It was a lawsuit filed by a TX Rep trying to attempt to make the courts rule that Pence could reject individual states EC votes on the 6th. It was dismissed. Pence had asked the court to dismiss it. https://www.businessinsider.com/pence-welcomes-gop-lawmakers-bid-to-challenge-bidens-win-2021-1
The lawsuit was an attempt to get the Supreme Court to declare the Electoral Count Act (ECA) of 1877 unconstitutional. The law was passed to try to clear up issues that arose in the previous presidential election. It includes provisions for determining how electors are chosen, counted and certified. The question, though, is that the Constitution gives the state legislatures the authority to choose electors, while the ECA of 1877 dilutes that: several state legislatures since then have chosen to have their governors certify the electoral counts. (Mostly because to do otherwise would involve state legislatures assembling over the traditional Christmas/New Year's break in order to count and certify the electoral counts -- a not-insignificant consideration in the horse-and-buggy era, or even in an era of trains, where it still might take an entire day to travel to the state capitol.) Declaring the ECA unconstitutional would strengthen the constitutional interpretation that the Vice President can choose to reject the votes cast by electors that weren't counted and certified by their state legislatures. IOW, since the Constitution says that the legislatures are the ones to count and certify electoral college votes, the state legislatures do not have the legal authority to move that action from the Legislative Branches of government to the Executive Branches of government. The Supreme Court refused to hear the lawsuit based on "laches", i.e., the Representatives who brought the case could not show that they would be harmed one way or another based on the outcome. If Pence chooses to deny the votes from these states, expect Supreme Court challenges. Now, here's the kicker: If the Supreme Court refuses to hear any of these challenges that would arise from Pence denying these states' electoral college votes, then his action stands, and THAT PARTICULAR PART OF THE ECA OF 1877 IS NO LONGER VALID. (All of the other parts of the ECA would still be in effect, but the Congress may want to look at that law and clean things up.) If they hear any of the cases, and rule in favor of Pence, THE ENTIRE ECA OF 1877 IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL, and Pence's actions stand. If they hear any of the cases and rule AGAINST Pence, then they would have effectively gutted or negated a part of the Constitution, specifically Article II Section 1, the part that specifies that the state legislatures are the ones to count and certify the electoral votes. Any other time in our nation's past I would have said that last option is one that would not happen; now, I'm not so sure: that the Supreme Court would rule that a major section of the original Constitution would be declared unconstitutional.
I think they will take the investigation approach. Another couple weeks of arguing about whos more corrupt will do a lot of good lol.
Fox dropped Trump like a hot potato today. They were just like, leave quietly into the night and stop this nonsense.
Just read an article in Epoch Times about a Democratic "wargame" legal analysis from 2019 that almost exactly matches what we have here. In that scenario, only Pennsylvania's electoral college votes are declined by Pence as they are certified and signed by the Governor (as allowed by the ECA) and not by the State Legislature (as required by the Constitution). The Governor's slate is all Democrat; the competing slate by the Legislature is all Republican. Since there are two completing slates, Pence declines to count Pennsylvania's votes. As soon as Pence declines to count Pennsylvania's votes, Pelosi rises to declare that the House session is closed, and all of the senators are to leave the House chambers on pain of being thrown out by the Sargent at Arms. Skipping some steps here, both Pence and Pelosi announce that their party's candidate has won the election; and the House will remain out of session until Pence agrees to count Pennsylvania's slate certified by the governor. In this scenario, since both parties claim the presidency and the counting is uncompleted, at noon on the 20th Pelosi will become the Acting President, per the 20th Amendment. At that time Pence ceases to be the President of the Senate, so he cannot complete the electoral college vote; and there is no elected Vice President to act as the President of the Senate. It's a nightmare scenario: which person will the military recognize as the President and Commander in Chief? Biggest problem I have in this guy's analysis is nowhere after the 6th does anyone file a suit with the Supreme Court to decide which side has the Constitution behind them? If SCOTUS states that the Constitution has primacy over legislation, they could rule the entire ECA unconstitutional and then direct Pelosi to call the House back into session to complete the vote count. Honestly, to me that is the simplest solution and the most Constitutional one. Then again, I'm not a Constitutional scholar, so what do I know?
This makes me feel like I’m going to pass right out on the floor right now! Save us, O Lord, from this nightmare of all nightmares!
Now, don't start fretting. G_D has everything under control. Keep in mind that in Bush v. Gore (the Florida hanging chad fiasco) SCOTUS ruled that the Constitutional rules overrode Legislative rules. That sets precedent, and they would have to override their own precedent of only 20 years ago in order to find for Pelosi et. al. This court does not seem to be overly fond of setting or breaking precedent. Almost all of the cases involving this election have been dismissed for lack of standing. I cannot see SCOTUS turning down any case resulting from actions on the 6th based on lack of standing, not and still keep any shred of respect not just in America, but in the world.
Maybe it's the cynic in me but I have a suspicion that the Republicans have already conceded the Presidency to Biden. A group of them making what appears to be a last ditch attempt to save the day might be a case of politicians looking to the next election and securing future votes of core Trump supporters in their own States. Somehow, I suspect that they would have been told to back down if there there was no run-off in Georgia. The whole world saw those cases of ballots being taken from under the table, and the swing States shutting down the count at the same time when Trump was ahead and then the reversal when the counting resumed. But nobody who matters really cares because they all will get back to business as usual when the dust has settled. The irony of it is that the same people will send some of their number to monitor the election process in small countries. Why would anyone trust them now? What's to stop tin pot dictators pasting pizza boxes to the window of count centres and saying it's OK because that's what the Americans do?
Here are two links to articles that may provide some information: Why Is President Trump So Calm? Sometimes The Simplest Explanation Is The Right One… Candace Owens: POTUS is Sitting on a Stack of Trump Cards
Two more senators sign on to the Hawley-Cruz effort to halt the certification: Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump Pleased to announce that @KLoeffler & @sendavidperdue have just joined our great #StopTheSteal group of Senators. They will fight the ridiculous Electoral College Certification of Biden. How do you certify numbers that have now proven to be wrong and, in many cases, fraudulent! .
DO NOT GIVE INTO DESPAIR God willed for Trump to win, however evil ONLY appears to have triumphed from our vantage point in time. But God has allowed it for the greater GOOD. It looks like the House and Senate as we speak have stopped objecting to the electoral college votes, and a Biden presidency will happen. Try not to fret, but it is now more evident and clear that what Conchita and the others Garabandal seers saw about a global communism is now a certainty. The greater GOOD about all this is the Miracle that will happen VERY SOON NOW because of the on-coming communism, let us continue in prayer with our Rosary and let us pray that the Miracle will be enough for man to turn around and avoid the chastisement. Remember evil only appears to have temporarily triumphed...for as our Blessed Mother said, “In the End My Immaculate Heart will Triumph”. Hail Mary full of grace the LORD is with thee...
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/a...-of-gunfire-inside-the-us-capitol/ar-BB1cxvQo Poor Ashli, may she rest in peace. Trump is the anti christ
I'm afraid, you'll be singing another tune under communism, REAL SOON. Also, Ashli died believing that she was standing up to feckless leaders in congress who did nothing and allowed this sham of an election to happen. So although your condolences might be appreciated...she herself would probably be the first to let you know where you can place them.
Let's not let Ashli's death become a subject of division. It was a horrible, unnecessary and avoidable tragedy. Let's all say some prayers for her and her family. America will never become socialist or communist. It just isn't in the American cultural makeup. If they try to foist it on us there will be a civil war. There may be one shortly anyway. The 2nd amendment is one of the greatest gifts of the fathers of our country and a guarantee that we can't be forced to submit to any such unholy form of government.
Prayers for Ashli's Soul. Prayers for America's Future. Kyrie Eleison. Christe Eleison. Kyrie Eleison.
