And an earlier one on texting! Msgr. Stephen Rossetti Exorcist Diary #28: Demons Texting Us Demons love tech, just like any bunch of adolescents. Before the cell phone was invented, they would mess with lights in a house or the television or other electrical appliances (and still do). People would come to us saying their house was infested because the electronics would turn off and on and do wild things by themselves. Sometimes they had faulty wiring, but other times it was indeed demonic. Now, our team members, especially the priest exorcists, are sometimes getting text messages from demons. I have heard that other exorcists around the world are also starting to get them. The messages are typically snarky, arrogant, gloating and taunting. Of course, we don't engage in a conversation with demons. Recently the head of the Jesuits world-wide denied the existence of a personal evil, i.e., Satan and demons. He accepted a kind of abstract notion of evil but not evil beings with real personhood. All I can say is: he never got a text from a demon! That might change his mind. Demons are enamored by tech. They engage in their demonic antics to scare us and to make themselves seem powerful. In reality, they are just the antics of an immature adolescent. Demons have no wisdom; they rejected God. They have much more raw intelligence than us, but without wisdom, they are shallow. All these demonic texts only confirm for us the presence of demons. Their biggest asset is their invisibility and it is stupid for them to blow this cover. But, at times, they can’t help it. They are very impulsive and cannot control their vicious, gloating sadism. I was glad we received these texts; it is self-defeating behavior. It lets us know where they are acting. When they expose themselves, I counsel the priests to respond with a prayer. All I can say to these demons is: Send more! .
Former occult ties keep woman from communion... Exorcist Diary #114: The Grace of Discernment Msgr. Stephen Rossetti Rodin, Auguste: The Thinker An old exorcist once told me, "Pray for the gift of discernment to do this ministry. You'll need it." Discernment is a daily task for an exorcist.. Again today, I sifted through many requests. A woman from the midwest USA said her son was ritually abused by Satanists at the age of five and is now possessed by Satan himself. She complained about her three previous exorcists.... It all sounds unlikely.... no, we won't take this case. A middle-aged woman complained that she was possessed by demons that were put into her by public officials but she couldn't complain to the police because they were "in" on it...Paranoid. Again, no. I received an email full of loose associations and bizarre reasoning claiming possession by a demon... Major thought disorder. No. But then one caught my eye. The person sounded fairly sane. She had a long list of unexplained illnesses. She tried many doctors and none of them knew what was wrong. She had recently come back to the practice of her faith. Previously she had been involved in the occult but eventually realized her mistake. Now, when she tries to receive communion she gets ill. She finds it increasingly difficult even to walk into a church. Hmmm. Maybe. This last one bears a closer look. We will ask for much background information. Subject the person to a psychologist's eye. Then set up an appointment, to include praying over her. A possible case of oppression, perhaps even possession. We will note how she reacts to the prayers. We shall see. I feel bad turning away many desperate people. But they likely don't need an exorcism, despite their protestations. I remember another old exorcist saying, "If someone tells you categorically they are possessed, they are probably not. But if they act truly surprised at their bizarre symptoms, they just might be." God grant me the wisdom to discern and the grace to help and to heal where I can. .
Suppose a person was not possessed by the Devil and they did an Exorcism anyway; would that be such a terrible thing? I wonder sometimes if some of this great caution might be due to fear of human respect?
Padraig, I think it would be a waste of time and energy by the exorcist and team. It could very well lead to despair /worsening of symptoms for the person for whom the exorcism did not work, and a loss of faith or hope for the families and friends involved. I think it's less a case of worrying about human respect and more a need to triage in the face of very limited resources. I also think if you agree to be an exorcist, you are less worried about human respect than many other priests, since you know the reality of the devil first-hand. Edited to add: It is frightening to realize you can leave the occult, return to the church, receive the sacraments, but the devil will still pursue you and try to get you back. It is so very hard to be completely free of that influence! (Prof. Mark Miravalle made that point in his public warning on Fr. Rodrigue earlier this year, that occult influences or practices in the past are a huge red flag for anyone who claims to be a mystic.)
The Church..and Jesus Himself seemed to get along perfectly well without head shrinkers for the first maybe ..say 1800 or 1900 years of its existence. ..somehow or other. I wonder if it might not have tottered along along for another 2,000 years or more so without them? I sometimes wonder if dragging in the head guys is not often a bid for social,. cultural and pseudo scientific affirmation, often a need to boltster the Exorcists or his Bishop's own Faith? Just a random thought.... If it could have led to a , 'Worsening of symptoms' then clearly performing Exorcisms before the recent turn up of the head shrinks might have been a bad idea? (How ever did we manage as a Church to do without them for so long?)
I studied Psycholgy at college and did Counselling Diplomas after. Most of it is not science but rather a loose art form. At least it seems so to me. I wouldn't get totally hung up on it all. It's fine to consult a good decent head shrinker, but it's not the be all and end all. If a good Holy priest said the devil was at it and the head shrinker said he wasn't I know who I'd bet my money on...
I bet they used to do exorcisms on those with schizophrenia, with no good outcome. That would be very sad for all concerned. Or Tourette's... .
..and in which case did it really do any harm? It's a Sacrament not tossing bones. The Tourettes would be as much there before as after, as with the Schizoid episodes. You're a real Doubting Thomas ,Christy. Maybe a little too doubting. Maybe a teensy weensy too modern and up to date for your own good. I dare say I am at least as well read up on much of this stuff as you are. But I don't buy into this modern , 'You must do this scientific, you must do this modren that', or you're not modern and up to date thingy as you appear to do. Don't let other people press your thought buttons. That's my advice.
Less harm, for sure, than having someone attempt an exorcism on a person really in need without the authority of the Church. That would be asking for trouble. As for doubts...No more doubts than the Church instructs us to have, I hope! I used to love to listen to Fr. Corapi... Once bitten, twice shy.
'than having someone attempt an exorcism on a person really in need without the authority of the Church' This is a straw man argument. I never claimed such a thing. Of course it must be with the authority of the Church or it is not an Excorcism. Using a straw man argument, which is putting an argument in someone else's mouth which they did not use is a sign of pure intellectual desperation / I never put such an arguement, Christy..and you know I didn't. You are really reaching when you resort to the straw man. It is a Fallacy, a lie. I never wrote that, someone should conduct an Exorcism ..'without the authority of the Church.' You suggest I did. You know in fact I didn't A straw man fallacy. A sign of desperation.
Science is best defined philosophically as... 'A a certain way of collecting a certain kind of knowledge'. Some kinds of knowledge cannot be fitted into an empirical test tube. Science has its limits. It's basically a philosophical methodology Its not the be all and end all. Certain types of demons as regards possession remain quiet and hidden as a strategy. It's fine to consult head shrinkers, but they are not the be all and end of all.
I never claimed you did say that, Padraig. And I never thought you did. It was an off-hand comment, not aimed at you. I understand it's hard to always communicate exactly in a few phrases on a forum. However, I try not to make straw man arguments but to give information and make reasonable comments. I do not think the word "lie" applies here. People do perform unofficial exorcisms, and they are worse than nothing. I was thinking of Fr. Rodrigue, (who I mentioned above, so who was part of the conversation) apparently did do unofficial exorcisms. I don't apologize for posting these exorcists' diary entries. I think they are doing a great service in explaining how they go about their job. Here they talk about how they have to pray for discernment. As do we all. .
Padraig your so on par with what I think. The Catholic church lets psychiatrist run the show. Most are satanist to a degree. Its not even a real science. They dope possesed people on meds. Wake up church.
Well a lot of it is knocking on doors that are already locked or on doors already opened. Why bother? If you can find a good Catholic head shrinker with good philosophic/ spiritual understanding, go for it. But don't hold your breath in finding one. Like everyone else in our Pagan culture they are a lost cause. Very,very,very lost. Why would you ask someone who does not believe in God their opinion about anything? By definition they are insane. Anyone who does not believe in God is in severe need of help and is drifting in the Far Reaches of Space. Head shrinking in my opinion is more an art than a science. A kind of qualified guessing game. I would say better to look at the paranormal displays exhibited as evidence.
Exorcist Diary #118: The Birth of Our Hope Msgr. Stephen Rossetti Gerard van Honthorst's Adoration of the Shepherd After an ugly dream last night, I woke up and began feeling awful. Where did this come from? After a few moments, I was able to name it. It was a feeling of hopelessness. Ugh. I don't recall ever feeling the darkness of such hopelessness. Where did this come from? Then the insight came: several of my current clients are struggling with hopelessness. It is not uncommon that an exorcist would get a whiff, or perhaps even more, of his clients' demons. It is helpful in diagnosis, and more. So, I took the advice I give to my clients. With rosary beads in hands, I placed both hands on my head and repeatedly commanded: "In the name of Jesus, I command the demons of hopelessness to leave." Again and again and again. After a few minutes, I took a short break and did a second and third round. Then, it lifted. Wow. Hopelessness is a very ugly feeling, which permeates the demonic and the depths of hell. In addition, it is one of Satan's main attacks these pandemic days. COVID-19 is a real virus killing people; but Satan is an opportunist and he is taking advantage of it and sowing hopelessness everywhere. Tomorrow is Christmas. With the coming of Jesus, hope has entered our land and casts out the darkness of despair. I learned again, first hand, what a great gift God gives us in the birth of our hope. .
I suspect all disease, be it physical or mental, is initially from a diabolical influence! We read in Genesis that what God created was GOOD! But on the other hand we know that satan wants to hurt/split/destroy all of Gods creation, in whatever means/manner he can! Take a family with a child born blind...... does that family grieve? Yes! Does that family realise that this child should have been born with all his senses? Yes! Hopefully that family also realise that this child, is a child of God and God has allowed/permitted this interference by satan, to wrought a greater good! Therefore we all have a great calling to nourish each other, especially those who are chosen to carry heavy burdens such as mental illnesses! The family in their love for their blind child, after visiting a vision specialist, may take the child to a hearing specialist or a neurosurgeon or an orthopaedic surgeon always seeking answers and cures. However answers and cures may never come! So it is with mental illness, we are called to love, to seek the help available, at any given time in history, and to accept the failures of our interventions. We should not blame the neurosurgeon inability to cure the blind child nor should we blame the exorcist for not curing the mental illness. Furthermore I believe that by inviting an Exorcist Priest (who is worth his salt) to pray for any person, should not in any way produce harmful effects; in fact it should and would produce great graces. Take St Padre Pio for instance, would his prayers of exorcism for some mentally ill person be considered futile or even detrimental, if the mentally ill person was not cured of their mental illness? Of course not! Just my 2 cents worth
This reminds me of the use of Holy Water at the moment, they have binned it suspecting it might be dangerous. They close Churches because they might cause harm. They stop the Mass because they might cause infection. By, 'They', I mean our Bishops. Governments will do crazy stuff as Governments always do. Being as they are mostly Pagans anyway. But Bishops?