Countdown to the Kingdom

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by bflocatholic, Mar 26, 2020.

  1. Christy1983

    Christy1983 Guest

    Interesting, but no clarity on the status of "exorcist" either:

    "Besides this, I never claimed that I was the exorcist of the Diocese of Amos. However, whenever I had to do a ministry in this area, I always asked for the approval of the Bishop. I know my pastoral and ecclesial responsibilities well."
     
  2. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Thanks for posting. Collaboration?
    No real clarification at all here.
     
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  3. Booklady

    Booklady Powers

    Christy, Thank you for sharing, I have a couple of questions, Do you have a link to this story, please? It makes it easier for your reader.

    Also, do you know if this was a translation from the French into English?
    I believe this is a translation because they' did not translate the French "cure" to the English word priest, Google Translate often makes this mistake if the words share the same spelling but not the context or definition.

    Thanks in advance
     
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  4. WTW

    WTW Guest

    “A confusion has crept into the understanding of this retreat concerning an approval by Bishop Gilles Lemay regarding the messages contained in these conferences. I myself had this confusion corrected. “

    What does this even mean? Is he referring to when he said “I tell my bishop everything.”

    Didn’t the bishop come out and say he was never told these messages?

    I’m more confused than ever.
     
  5. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Go to Spirit Daily. It’s on there. But Christy posted the whole thing here, I think. :)
     
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  6. Thanks, Christy.

    Father Rodrigue must be answerable to some bishop, correct? Because what he stated was, “I would like to reiterate my fidelity to the teaching of the Catholic Church...” without naming a bishop. Who is he actually under?

    Then, Father wrote, “In May 2011, I met Bishop Gilles Lemay to share with him the spiritual experience of the call to found a semi-monastic fraternity currently known as the ApostolicFraternity of Saint Benedict-Joseph Labre.“ Is he not, here, denying the words of the bishop who says Father never told him what he claims to have said here?

    Then, anyone with eyes to see and ears to hear must acknowledge that Father clearly is telling us that he blended his own personal alleged messages with those from approved visionaries, which can give his own alleged messages a veneer of Church approval: “Besides personal messages, the teaching given was based on the messages of theVirgin Mary approved by the Church and inaccordance with the Catechism of the CatholicChurch...”

    What I have written is not to disrespect a priest. If anyone believes that, that one is on you. But God and truth are One and that’s all I’m looking for.
     
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  7. You can join me.
     
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  8. Jo M

    Jo M Powers

    Exactly. There is even more confusion. He states that he "tells his bishop everything", but he does not say that he has been obedient.
     
  9. WTW

    WTW Guest

    “The spiritual experience of the call” is really strange wording. It implies he told the bishop his vision but doesn’t actually state it.
     
  10. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    I think the “call” refers to his desire to found the semi-monastic fraternity, only. I don’t think it refers to anything else.
    But it needs clarification.
     
  11. Booklady

    Booklady Powers

    Where? I'm sorry, but I clicked the title, and Spirit Daily, and it does not take me anywhere. Could you show me where the link is? I need a link because I always read from the source.
    Thanks
     
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  12. Julia

    Julia Immaculate Heart of Mary, pray for us.

    If you click on Spirit Daily main page, there is an article in the left hand column with the heading;
    Seer'-priest Rodrigue responds to bishops I think that is the article you are looking for.
     
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  13. Booklady

    Booklady Powers

    Thanks, Julia. A direct link is always the best way to go when citing an aggregate news source like Spirit Daily. I learned this the other day when I was searching for Our Lady of All Nations, SD had several articles on their page, so I had to read all of them to get to the correct one. :LOL:
     
  14. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Fr Michel only mentions one retreat he preached in 2019 in California. He preached multiple retreats in California.
     
  15. Booklady

    Booklady Powers

    He qualifies it by stating the date 2019, and the use of the term featured.
    In 2019, I preached a spiritual retreat in California which was featured on the Countdown to the Kingdom website.


    A lot of our confusion stems from the language problem. Father has difficulty expressing himself in English and may not use the most precise form.
     
  16. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Except that, if I am not mistaken, there is much more about him in CDTTK than one retreat. I have not read it all, but there seems to be quite a lot. And Fr M says that he told his Bishop everything. It’s still murky to me.
     
  17. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Then how can anyone find the truth?
     
  18. Christy1983

    Christy1983 Guest

    The letters by the two bishops seemed pretty clear to me, HH. [ETA] They were doing their duty as shepherds in laying out the reasoning behind their decisions (to disavow) in public.

    Also, as I've said before, those who promote themselves as "Catholic evangelists" have a duty to do "due diligence" before taking up the cause of a particular messenger and amplifying his voice across media platforms--book, website, video. It is disingenuous for the Countdown people to pretend otherwise.
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  19. Jo M

    Jo M Powers

    I had to go back to read Fr.Michel's letter again because I found his statement suggesting 'collaboration' to be troubling; something was off, something was missing in addition to clarification. I realized I had expected his letter of explanation to be humble in nature. Now I could be wrong here, as this is my own personal observation, but with all due respect to Fr.Michel who has every right to defend himself and set the record straight, it did not appear to me that his letter was written with a spirit of humility.
     
  20. Christy1983

    Christy1983 Guest

    Problem cleared up? I'm glad Heavenly Hosts jumped in. I "assumed" you'd find it, I'll know better next time.
     

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