Hello. I am not the stereotypical person you’ve mentioned, yet I am open to looking into this further. So, I believe I can safely say there may be other people in a similar situation as I am with this who also do not fall into the alluded to stereotype ~AN
There are no doubt many Catholics who believe that the World is Flat and that Fairies actually exist. This would never put me of being a Catholic. I am sure many people who believe in this Devotion believe in very, very many strange things.. My own old Irish Grandmother very firmly believed in Fairies . That does not put me off being Irish. Nor did it ever put me off herself. Something is true or false in its own right. Not in what we believe to be true or false about other things. I mean a Doctor may be a Mormon for instance. I might think he is wrong in following Joseph Smith, but that doesn't make him a bad Doctor. There is this shocking bad air going about at the moment that if you don't agree with me , you must be a bad person and then you have a Witch Hunt, My grandmother believed in Fairies. Well fair play to her. Maybe she was right. Wouldn't it be wonderful if she was? What a boring old world if we all thought the same about everything. Don't take yourself and everything else too seriously. Lighten up.
Today is First Friday and there was Holy Mass and Exposition/Ongoing Adoration of the Most Blessed Sacrament today at my parish. Before the Consecration, I wanted to hold the holy card I’ve had in my bag so that I could look upon His Heart, so to speak. As it turned out, I’ve only ever focused on the words across the top and have not seen/ignored(?) those across the bottom. But how appropriate they are for the discussion on this thread!
I love the practice of holding old Mass Cards for the Dead in Missals. I haul them out every now and again and pray for them.
Very good spiritual works of mercy. I had picked up a large, leather bound Catholic Bible from the 1950s at our parish’s last rummage sale. By the look of the handwriting that was on the few pieces of personal business left inside its pages, Olga was an elderly woman and owner of the book. I wondered about her life and death. I had opened to a random page in the front where there were various prayers, and my eyes immediately fell upon one of them which had been written for a forgotten soul. So, I read the prayer and then thought maybe that was for Olga? As soon as I thought that, a random butterfly flew from the sidewalk bush all the way up the driveway and to the patio where I was sitting, fluttered around me and then went off into the sky. My eldest son’s Godmother is a nun and she told me once that butterflies are a sign/symbol from God of the Resurrection. It was a beautiful moment.
When my Mother died she had this little Catholic Prayer Book Bound my cellotape many times. Goodness knows how many years it served her. Very cheap. Very simple. I have read many , many thousands of Catholic books. Pretty well all the great Catholic Spiritual Classics and many Commentaries. But how would this serve me if , through all this knowledge I wound up in hell and my mother with her own little book wound up in heaven.?
Hi AN, I can understand if you haven't had much exposure to this devotion and you don't know which way is up so to speak, but I'd like to clarify something in your previous post: Either it is a bad translation which has problematic messages in regards to doctrine and the bishop's official stance is to not disseminate it's messages or it is not. Both side can't be wrong. This devotion is a tricky one, because it seems to have many traditional Catholic elements with many messages that are spot on. It's the 1% so to speak that is dangerous (i.e. Luisa's third fiat completing the work of redemption (!?!), etc.). All the points that led to it being included on the index are still valid all these years later. That some take it upon themselves to spread it's faulty translations and interpretations - in spite of the official stance of the Ordinary in charge - is both puzzling and potentially harmful to one's spiritual life.
Hi, Frodo. I appreciate your reply and you do make sense. I am not arguing that part, at all. That malpractice, so to speak, is on those who do it that way. But the fact remains that the messages are out and someone will finally get the translations right, I hope and pray! I have to go into Adoration in a minute or two but I’m thinking on what you wrote about her teaching on redemption and wondering where Saint Paul may have spoken more clearly on this. I’m bringing my Bible into church so I will look at this further. My prayers for all four members!
Very interesting that Padre Pio and Luisa Piccarretta were contemporaries and lived only 50 miles apart. Padre Pio prophesied that Luisa would become well known throughout the world at a future time -- and that the world will be astounded at her greatness. Padre Pio read Luisa's book the Hours of the Passion four times -- (Adriana Pallotti, spiritual daughter of Padre Pio from San Giovanni Rotondo).
Mission of Reparation accomplished! God is SO awesome to allow us access to His Divine Son in the Most Blessed Sacrament—no words! The Scripture verse of which I had been thinking was: “Now I rejoice in my sufferings for your sake, and in my flesh I complete what is lacking in Christ’s afflictions for the sake of his body, that is, the church, of which I became a minister according to the divine office which was given to me for you, to make the word of God fully known, the mystery hidden for ages and generations but now made manifest to his saints.” (Colossians 1:24-26)
Hi, Garabandal. Is there a source for everything in your post here that you would please share? I would like to read it as I am—let’s just say— very devoted to Saint Padre Pio. ~AN
So am I. My one mystical experience in life involved an apparition of St Padre Pio for about ten minutes at Mount Melleray grotto in Ireland. The sources are linked below: https://bookofheaven.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Andriana-Pallotti-interview.pdf https://divinewill.cc/padrepio_luisa4.htm https://bookofheaven.com/who-is-luisa/padre-pio-and-luisa/
I suggest Daniel Oconnor's book through Amazon for only $10 called the Crown of Sanctity. It has these stories and all the essential points that the naysayers continue to dismiss all laid out in a very easy to read comprehensive manner. St. Padre Pio's connection with Luisa is all in there too. He knew her for the living saint she was. When People from Luisa's town would stop by to see Padre Pio he would say, why are you here when you have a Luisa in your own town? Also, in case you missed it this video with Daniel Oconnor and Father Mark Goring on Luisa is excellent as well.
It's my understanding that one has to have been purified by the Lord before one can surrender one's will perfectly to God. Frances Hogan explains this very well from Scriptures - https://www.queenofthedivinewill.org/archives-from-the-school-of-mary-with-frances-hogan/
Be careful about these claims from supporters. There seems to be little proof of a link to Padre Pio. In fact, we have testimony from his very order that there is no such link: http://www.transporter.com/Apologia/pio_ltr.htm
Yes, that verse would seem to be a natural fit. Until, that is, you read what her writings (at least as currently translated) say about it. Let's contrast Luisa's revelations with what Saint JPII said about that verse: http://www.vatican.va/content/john-.../hf_jp-ii_apl_11021984_salvifici-doloris.html "Does this mean that the Redemption achieved by Christ is not complete? No. It only means that the Redemption, accomplished through satisfactory love, remains always open to all love expressed in human suffering. In this dimension—the dimension of love—the Redemption which has already been completely accomplished is, in a certain sense, constantly being accomplished. Now here is Luisa: “My daughter, the first Fiat was pronounced in Creation with no intervention of creature. The second Fiat was pronounced in Redemption; I wanted the intervention of the creature, and I chose my Mama for the completion of the second Fiat. Now, for the fulfillment of both, I want to pronounce the third Fiat, and I want to pronounce It through you; I have chosen you for the fulfillment of the third Fiat. This third Fiat will bring to completion the glory and the honor of the Fiat of Creation, and will be confirmation and development of the fruits of the Fiat of Redemption. These three Fiats will conceal the Most Holy Trinity on earth, and I will have the Fiat Voluntas Tua on earth as it is in Heaven. These three Fiats will be inseparable – each one will be life of the other. They will be one and triune, but distinct among themselves. My Love wants it, my Glory demands it: having unleashed the first two Fiats from the womb of my Creative Power, It wants to unleash the third Fiat because my Love can no longer contain It – and this, in order to complete the work which came from Me; otherwise, the works of Creation and of Redemption would be incomplete.” This current translation is highly, highly problematic. It is very subtle, but ultimately incompatible with our faith. Luisa's fiat is not necessary in order for the works of Creation and Redemption to be complete. I can't believe that I have to type this out on a Catholic forum. Let me say it again: Supporters claim that Christ chose Luisa for the third Fiat so the works of Creation and Redemption would not be incomplete. Unbelievable, downright dangerous, and incompatible with Tradition, Scripture, and Doctrine.
