Grave Concerns: Fr Michel Rodrique.

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  1. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    :eek:
     
  2. John R

    John R New Member

    (Yes to the Tsunamis. Sr Lucy had a vision of that when she wrote down the revealed part of the secret. That is edifying and uplifting reading.)

    God and Our Lady have a plan for every soul. For years they have called us to conversion. According to St Theresa of Avila, there are seven conversions (the seven mansions), seven deepenings of our love of and union with God's will, with His Sacred Heart. So we are all called to deeper conversion and conformity with the Will of God (not the magic and heretical trick of Picarretta who fooled even her confessor, a canonized saint!! "Etiam electi" even the Elect that is Saints will be deceived).

    We know not the day nor hour. Some are called to martyrdom. Some will be spared the days of Sorrow. Some will be taken to refuges. We are to prepare spiritually and pray for the conversion of souls. Our Penance according to Our Lady of Revelation is to forgive everyone (the only work of Mercy mentioned in the Our Father and the greatest) and to bear sufferings patiently (another spiritual work of Mercy and act of love). These are matters of the Will, not of feeling or emotion.

    Do not worry about family or friends. Entrust them to God and Our Lady. Her tears are Her sorrow for all the lost souls who reject God's mercy and love. Hers is an ocean of Sorrow. She is wounded more by their loss than any but Our Lord. She has paid the full price for each as too Our Lord. That is the deepest cause of God's sorrow, Our Lord's deepest suffering, which He still endures in all the Tabernacles throughout the world. They love your family and friends far more than you. Pray for them. Do not worry. Even if all seems lost, esp if all seems lost. This is the Test.
     
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  3. John R

    John R New Member

    There is an entire thread in it in the forum here. The first post links to part one. I recommend part 1-2 especially, if you are unfamiliar; part 2 if you are familiar, but the entire series is edifying.

    https://motheofgod.com/threads/our-lady-of-revelation.11091/
     
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  4. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    So you claim Father Rodriguez has misled many by saying Francis is Pope.

    Am I reading you correctly? You think Pope Francis is an anti-Pope or the False Prophet?
     
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  5. John R

    John R New Member


    Definitely. I've been aware of it since 2014. There are as many as 40 errors in the Latin of the resignation alone. The number of all the errors is simply astounding. And I studied and taught Latin many years.

    As Benedict said, the pope is not an "absolute monarch." He can make mistakes. Most importantly he does NOT have power to change natural or divine law (only positive law). The biggest sign of the invalid resignation is in Ganswein's 2016 speech on the matter. There Ganswein likens the pope to God Himself. That should send off all the alarms. The decuit, potuit, fecit argument applies to God alone because He is all Good and all powerful. The pope can't do that. Ganswein makes the pope equal to God. Incredible

    But there are about 20 clear signs that Benedict is still pope. Providence has provided these. There are also some 6 pretty airtight arguments that B16's resignation was invalid, from Canon Law, from philosophy, from grammar, from basic theology. A number of very solid proofs. It's part of the great deception.

    And remember, Benedict is under the fiercest spiritual attack of anyone. Don't judge or blame him. He has gone to Our Lord in prayer and suffering. Pray for him. He is confused somewhat but God alone knows his heart.
     
  6. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    But you as a lay person are not in a position to declare Benedict Pope and Francis an anti-Pope.
     
  7. Yeah, imagine this, after Pope Benedict's resignation, a lightning strikes the dome of St. Peter's.

    What more if it is a forced murder of a legit Pope, what do you think will be God's response? Just liked after the death of Jesus on the Cross, an earthquake rocked Jerusalem...
     
  8. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    What forced murder are you talking about?
     
  9. John R

    John R New Member

    God has given us countless signs. He has also given us Reason and Faith. He does not require us to set them aside in a false obedience. I would sin to deny what He has shown us. And it would be sin to be silent now when pressed. I was silent until 2018. That is all I can say.

    The signs and arguments are overwhelming and many Canonists and theologians in Rome agree. But they are mostly silent. We need to cry out with a 1000 tongues. For myriad souls will soon be lost for eternity because of the lies and deceptions.

    St Catherine was a lay woman. With no training. She supported the true pope when the great and learned Saint Vincent Ferrer supported the antipope. This is not a question of sin. And this crisis is far worse and far more urgent than the Western Schism.

    God bless.
     
  10. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    So you are a Benevacantist?

    If it is the case that Benedict is still pope and Francis is not, then this will be adjudicated by the Church, under the aegis of the current pontificate or a subsequent one. To formally declare, not to merely opine, feel, or secretly wonder, but to definitively declare Benedict’s resignation invalid and Francis to not be the valid occupant, is nothing short of schismatic and to be avoided by all true Catholics.

    https://onepeterfive.com/benevacantists/
     
  11. John R

    John R New Member

    That term is a slur and dishonors both the truth and the pope as well. The See is not vacant.

    And I have read most every article and book BOTH for and against this. Elsewhere on this forum Professor Mazza's lengthy argument is copied. I don't entirely agree. There is some mystery to Benedict's act. Still, Mazza makes a careful and consisered argument. Many (theologians and canonists) in Rome and outside take it very seriously who before scoffed at it.

    Nothing on Skojec's site has merit. It's very poor reasoning. He uses Alynsky tactics without knowing it. In fact he uses many of the tactics that St Edmund Campion reveals and critiques in his "Decem Rationes" which I cannot too highly recommend

    Again. There is no sin in taking various sides on this question. That is simply a gas lighting technique, unjust.
     
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  12. The great Japanese tsunami was March 11, 2011.

    Could something happen on March 11, 2021?
     
  13. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    It is a schismatic act to publicly declare Pope Francis an anti-Pope and Pope Benedict as the Pope. You are relying on your own authority just like the protestants!

    I don't like Pope Francis period but I cannot and will not personally declare him an anti-Pope. That is beyond my pay grade. We have to be patient and wait for the Church to declare these things.
     
  14. John R

    John R New Member


    This is my last response to you. It is absolutely and in no way a schismatic act. This is shown by the fact that the lay woman St Catherine of Sienna took sides against a learned and great saint who supported the antipope. They both "declared publicly." Neither sinned and the Church had not decided.

    So no

    It's not a schismatic nor heretical act. That is gas lighting which is what 95% of the argument focuses on for now seven years. Very very few take up the actual arguments. Very few. In seven years.

    I do not expect the hierarchy ever to make a declaration. Benedict will be martyred and we will have no pope during the AntiChrist's reign. That is what the Fathers and Doctors of the Church on the whole teach.

    Now, I could be wrong but I am not schismatic. Nor is anyone schismatic who holds Benedict to be pope

    God bless.
     
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  15. Frodo

    Frodo Archangels

    Very, very dangerous road you are traveling here. And very dangerous to be posting and encouraging others to follow you on a public forum. It's one thing to question with somewhat reasonable suspicion the circumstances of the resignation, but that is not what you are doing here.
     

  16. you should wait before you say that. we cannot make this kind of judgment. if you really believe that, it is better to keep it to yourself, until the moment when francis changes the laws of the church, abolishing the eucharist, for example. he has to make a real move as a false prophet. until now he is just a modernist pope and faithful to the spirit of the Vatican Council 2. we have to wait for God to work in the church at the right time.
     
  17. John R

    John R New Member

    My spiritual director had no problem with it back in 2014. And he did not agree with me. I assure you I have perfect peace about it.

    Yes. It is unsettling to some. I cannot help that. St. Catherine surely unsettled many. This is a far far worse crisis. Many have left the Church. Many more will. As at Calvary. So now.

    I was silent til 2018 and that was fitting. But now is not the time for my silence.

    I have watched merciless thrashings and persecutions of those who suggest the resignation is invalid....for six years. It is not right.

    Most are very afraid to even speak out when they know better.

    You too misjudge the situation. Those who support Francis (and Garabandal admits he does not as too the whole Skojec camp) are not in sin for doing so nor schism.

    But I was asked the question. I did not raise it. I have studied it on all sides for six years. Seven years is way way way too long to silence the question. Many have fallen because if this scandalon.

    God bless
     
  18. John R

    John R New Member


    But anyone who wants can declare their judgements on any and every false prophet and we are not to be silent on them when the Church has not decided?

    Do you not see the double standard and how the devil has turned everything topsy turvy?

    I assure you, the apostasy has reached its zenith ....or shall soon.
     
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  19. you have your free will. In my opinion you will lose credibility in everything you say. If you do not care go on. I will not follow this path. I believe he is not the “man”. Brother Ivan (a hidden seer who lives in a monastery in south Brazil) said personally to me that francis is just a forerunner. there will be the “man”. But it is not francis yet. but in anyway we have to wait until the concret action to judge.
     
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  20. Frodo

    Frodo Archangels

    Can you supply documentation that St. Catherine declared a sitting pope not pope? This goes against the more famous quote that she is recognized for:

    "Even if the Pope were Satan incarnate, we ought not to raise up our heads against him, but calmly lie down to rest on his bosom. He who rebels against our Father is condemned to death, for that which we do to him we do to Christ: we honor Christ if we honor the Pope; we dishonor Christ if we dishonor the Pope. I know very well that many defend themselves by boasting: “They are so corrupt, and work all manner of evil!” But God has commanded that, even if the priests, the pastors, and Christ-on-earth were incarnate devils, we be obedient and subject to them, not for their sakes, but for the sake of God, and out of obedience to Him.”

    — St. Catherine of Siena
     

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