President Trump

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by garabandal, Oct 17, 2017.

  1. AED

    AED Powers

    Oh boy. Just gets curiouser and curiouser as Alice in wonderland used to say.
     
  2. BREAKING: Audio Tape Released Between Corrupt Former Ukrainian President Poroshenko And Joe Biden Discussing Corrupt Activities. John Kerry Also On Tape.

    UPDATE 5/19 11:00am EST: Here is a rough translation and outline of the audio tape…

    Now people’s deputy Andrei Derkach presents a real “cassette scandal.” He shows recordings of conversations of former US Vice President Biden and former President Poroshenko. There is also a recording of Poroshenko’s conversation with former Secretary of State Kerry.

    Soon we will analyze in detail.

    So far, a summary of the music library:

    1. Biden puts pressure on Poroshenko to fire Shokin.
    2. Poroshenko said that he blocked the resignation of Yatsenyuk on February 16, 2016 at the personal direction of Biden.
    On both points, according to Derkach, there is an obvious corpus delicti under the article “treason” (in fact, Poroshenko complied with the instructions of the leadership of a foreign state).

    In addition, other films have been published on which:

    1. Poroshenko asks Biden to influence Self-Help regarding the position of the faction in voting for the prime minister.
    2. Poroshenko complains about Abromavicius.
    3. Biden at the end of 2016 gives Poroshenko advice to nationalize Privatbank as soon as possible, until Trump, who won the election, came to power.
    An audio tape has been released by a Ukrainian politician which details conversations between corrupt and discredited former Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko and U.S. presidential candidate Joe Biden. John Kerry is also on the audio tape. The men discuss the firing of then Prosecutor Shokin for corrupt reasons, in order to prevent an investigation into Biden’s son, Hunter Biden, and other criminal actions.

    The smoking gun has just been found…

    More to come as we dig into this…

    https://creativedestructionmedia.co...g-corrupt-activities-john-kerry-also-on-tape/

    Here is the section where Joe Biden starts talking. Biden mentions Donald Trump!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2694&v=V0FBssBoPZQ&feature=emb_title
     
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  3. AED

    AED Powers

    Oh my oh my. Will the fake media ignore this? Probably. But the courts and the AG cannot ignore it. As Q says BOOM.
     
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  4. Something else for Trump to "trumpet" prior to the election.
     
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  5. Was waiting for this since the whole point of this rogue judge's actions was to delay this into election and/or force Trump to pardon him rather than granting justice which is exoneration.

    Sidney Powell Delivers Writ of Mandamus to Correct Judge Sullivan’s Unauthorized Actions in General Flynn Case – Orders Dismissal of Case Against Gen. Flynn

    Attorney Sidney Powell announced on Tuesday morning that Team Flynn has just delivered to the United States Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit a Petition for Writ of Mandamus to correct Judge Sullivan’s unauthorized actions.

    This comes after Judge Emmet Sullivan REFUSED to drop the case against General Flynn even though the US Government prosecutors dropped ALL CHARGES against the Three-Star General.

    The Barr Justice Department dropped its case against General Mike Flynn last Thursday after bombshell documents were released that proved he was framed by Comey’s FBI.

    But last Tuesday the Clinton-appointed Judge Emmet Sullivan made a dirty, political move to delay justice for General Mike Flynn.

    Judge Sullivan extended the case by soliciting amicus briefs to allow for public comment on Flynn’s criminal case.

    Judge Sullivan also appointed retired Clinton appointee judge John Gleeson to argue against the government’s motion to dismiss the charge against Flynn!
    This is unheard of!

    This came after the US Supreme Court just one week ago ruled that rogue judges CANNOT do what Judge Sullivan is wanting to do.
    The Supreme Court ruled 9-0 to prevent judges like Emmet Sullivan from becoming tyrants on the bench.

    So today Flynn’s defense team filed their Writ of Mandamus.

    Here is the link to the Writ of Mandamus filing.

    From the filing:

    RELIEF SOUGHT
    Petitioner respectfully requests that this Court order the district court immediately to (1) grant the Justice Department’s Motion to Dismiss; (2) vacate its order appointing amicus curiae; and (3) reassign the case to another district judge as to any further proceedings.

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...l-flynn-case-orders-dismissal-case-gen-flynn/
     
  6. BREAKING: Full Text of Susan Rice’s January 20, 2017 Email About Secret Oval Office Meeting Released – Comey and Obama Targeted Flynn!

    Senate Governmental Affairs Committee Chairman Ron Johnson (R-WI) wrote a letter to US Attorney General William Barr on Monday requesting he declassify the remaining portion of Susan Rice’s January 20, 2017 email to herself about the secret Oval Office meeting with the coup cabal.

    “I request you review and declassify the remaining portion of Ambassador Rice’s January 20, 2017, email and provide it to my office,” Johnson wrote.

    Acting DNI Richard Grenell on Tuesday declassified the remaining portion of Susan Rice’s email.

    CBS reporter Catherine Herridge obtained the declassified email and released it to the public (screenshot below).

    It was previously known the junk Russia dossier and General Flynn’s calls to Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak were discussed in the secret meeting.

    The newly declassified portion of the email once again implicates Barack Obama and Comey!

    Barack Obama and Comey discussed Flynn’s communications with Kislyak.

    Comey suggested to Obama in the meeting that the National Security Council [NSC] might not want to pass “sensitive information related to Russia” to then-incoming National Security Adviser General Mike Flynn.

    “President Obama asked if Comey was saying that the NSC should not pass sensitive information related to Russia to Flynn. Comey replied “potentially” and noted “the level of communication (w/Russian Ambassador) is unusual.”

    Tom Fitton said a special counsel should be appointed to investigate the seditious conspiracy.

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...-meeting-released-comey-obama-targeted-flynn/
     
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  7. Tanker

    Tanker Powers

    Wow, lots of things coming out. Boom is correct.

    It says above CBS....wonder if this will be mentioned at all to the public by msm.
     
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  8. Booklady

    Booklady La Dolorosa

    The water in the cauldron is getting hot and the toads are feeling it!:eek:
     
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  9. More hints from Q today re: why that wording was chosen by Barr (takes time to educate the public after decades of propaganda protecting the swamp)....King/Obama; Queen/probably Hillary.....meanwhile, removing the various lower characters in layers:

    Q !!Hs1Jq13jV6 ID: 76a615 No.9238453
    May 19 2020 11:22:56 (EST) NEW
    How about a nice game of chess.
    https://thechessworld.com/articles/...-you-need-to-know-about-strategy-and-tactics/
    Objective [end]: checkmate king
    Do you attack the king at the beginning of the game?
    Do you attack and remove pawns first?
    Do you attack and remove bishops, rooks, knights next?
    Do you attack and remove queen mid-to-end?
    Is the game being played public or private?
    Do emotions affect critical thinking?
    Add: important king control pieces [elim rogue elements]?
    Add: how do you set the stage [board] re: public opinion [optics]?
    “At this time.”
    Q
     
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  10. Link from Q today:

    PRESS ROOM

    PRESS RELEASES AND STATEMENTS
    Print
    Global Health Leaders Launch Decade of Vaccines Collaboration | Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation


    Global Vaccine Action Plan to guide discovery, development and delivery of lifesaving vaccines

    NEW YORK -- The World Health Organization (WHO), UNICEF, the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) and the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation have announced a collaboration to increase coordination across the international vaccine community and create a Global Vaccine Action Plan. This plan will build on the successes of current work to achieve key milestones in the discovery, development and delivery of lifesaving vaccines to the most vulnerable populations in the poorest countries over the next decade.


    The collaboration follows the January 2010 call by Bill and Melinda Gates for the next ten years to be the Decade of Vaccines. The Global Vaccine Action Plan will enable greater coordination across all stakeholder groups – national governments, multilateral organizations, civil society, the private sector and philanthropic organizations -- and will identify critical policy, resource, and other gaps that must be addressed to realize the life-saving potential of vaccines.


    The structure of the Decade of Vaccines Collaboration includes a Leadership Council to provide oversight for the planning effort, a Steering Committee that holds the primary responsibility for developing the action plan, an International Advisory Committee to assist the Leadership Council in evaluating the action plan, and a Secretariat for administrative support.


    Prof. Pedro Alonso, Director for the Institute for Global Health of Barcelona and Dr. Christopher Elias, President and CEO of PATH, have been appointed co-chairs of the Steering Committee and the Secretariat.


    “Vaccines are miracles,” said Prof. Alonso, “For just a few dollars per child, vaccines prevent disease and disability for a lifetime. We must make sure that people understand that vaccines are one of the best investments in health.”

    The Leadership Council is comprised of:

    • Dr. Margaret Chan, Director General of WHO;
    • Dr. Anthony S. Fauci, Director of NIAID, part of the National Institutes of Health;
    • Mr. Anthony Lake, Executive Director for UNICEF;
    • Ms. Joy Phumaphi, Chair of the International Advisory Committee and Executive Secretary, African Leaders Malaria Alliance
    • Dr. Tachi Yamada, President of Global Health at the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation;

    The Steering Committee includes globally recognized experts in vaccine delivery, advocacy, research and development, and access:

    • Dr. Nicole Bates, Senior Program Officer, Global Health Policy and Advocacy, Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation
    • Dr. Seth Berkley, President & CEO, International AIDS Vaccine Initiative (IAVI)
    • Dr. Zulfiqar Bhutta, Founding Chair, Division of Women and Child Health, Aga Khan University
    • Dr. Lola Dare, CEO, Center for Health Sciences Training, Research and Development International
    • Ms. Helen Evans, Acting CEO, GAVI Alliance
    • Dr. Lee Hall, Chief, Parasitology and International Programs Branch, Division of Microbiology and Infectious Diseases, NIAID
    • Dr. T. Jacob John, Professor and Head, Departments of Clinical Microbiology and Virology, Christian Medical College, Vellore, India (Retired)
    • Dr. Orin Levine, Executive Director, International Vaccine Access Center (IVAC)
    • Dr. Jean-Marie Okwo-Bele, Director, WHO Department of Immunization, Vaccines and Biologicals
    • Dr. Ciro de Quadros, Executive Vice President, Sabin Vaccine Institute
    • Dr. David Salisbury, Director of Immunization, UK Department of Health
    • Dr. Anne Schuchat, Director, National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, CDC
    • Dr. Peter A. Singer, Director, McLaughlin-Rotman Centre for Global Health, University of Toronto
    • Dr. Lucky Slamet, Deputy for Therapeutic Products, Narcotic, Psychotropic and Addictive Substance Control, National Agency of Drug and Food Control, Indonesia
    • Dr. Gina Tambini, Area Manager, Family and Community Health, PAHO
    • Dr. Jos Vandelaer, Chief, Immunization, Programme Division, UNICEF
    • Ms. Sandy Wrobel, CEO and Managing Director, Applied Strategies
    The Decade of Vaccines Collaboration expects to complete its work by mid-2012. At that time, all vaccine stakeholder groups will be responsible for implementing the action plan.


    “We look forward to working with the global vaccine community to extend the benefits made possible by existing vaccines and new vaccines in development,” said Dr. Elias, “Together we can ensure that all children have a shot at a healthy life.”

    # # #
    WHO is the directing and coordinating authority on international health within the United Nations system. It is responsible for providing leadership on global health matters, shaping the health research agenda, setting norms and standards, articulating evidence-based policy options, providing technical support to countries and monitoring and assessing health trends. For more information, visit www.who.int.



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    UNICEF is on the ground in over 150 countries and territories to help children survive and thrive, from early childhood through adolescence. The world’s largest provider of vaccines for developing countries, UNICEF supports child health and nutrition, good water and sanitation, quality basic education for all boys and girls, and the protection of children from violence, exploitation, and AIDS. UNICEF is funded entirely by the voluntary contributions of individuals, businesses, foundations and governments. For more information about UNICEF and its work visit www.unicef.org





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    The National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) conducts and supports research to study the causes of infectious and immune-mediated diseases, and to develop better means of preventing, diagnosing and treating these illnesses. NIAID is part of the National Institutes of Health (NIH), which is a component of the U. S. Department of Health and Human Services and the primary U.S. federal agency for conducting and supporting basic, clinical and translational medical research. For more information about NIAID and NIH visit www.nih.gov.


    https://www.gatesfoundation.org/Med...aders-Launch-Decade-of-Vaccines-Collaboration
     
  11. Irishguy2

    Irishguy2 Guest

    As you know that I'm anti Trump.

    Normally I don't agree with Trump decisions or policy decisions etc. But for first time that I agreed with Trump on funding to WHO. There is an Irish man, who runs emergency health section such as ebola or corona virus. He quit WHO few years ago over some political decisions made by WHO then president.

    WHO is a political organisation backed by Gates as its a big supporter for China. I agree re big cuts in USA funding to WHO to bring them down a peg or two.
     
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  12. THE Quid pro Quo

    UPDATE: VIDEO WITH CAPTIONS of JOE BIDEN and Ukrainian President Poroshenko Phone Call Discussing FIRING VIKTOR SHOKIN Who Was Investigating His Son — FOR IMF LOAN!!

    .......

    Poroshenko: (7:10 mark) I have some good news… Yesterday I went and seat with the general prosecutor’s office.

    Joe Biden: Yes.

    Poroshenko: …. I especially asked him to resign… as his position as a state prosecutor… He promised to give me statement of his resignation… One hour he gave me statement of his presentation.

    Joe Biden: Great!….

    Joe Biden: (10:20 mark) I am prepared to a public signing for a commitment for a billion dollars. Again I am not suggesting you want it or don’t want it. I am suggesting that is what I am prepared to do. Again it won’t be finalized… Let me when you and I finished speaking let me huddle with my team… I agree with you there is a sense of urgency here.

    Joe Biden — (14:30 minute mark from November 2016 call) Congratulations in getting the new Prosecutor General. I know there’s a lot more to that. I really think that’s good. It is going to be critical that he works to repair the damage of Shokin. I’m a man of my word. Now that the new prosecutor general is in place we’re ready to move forward to signing the one billion dollar loan guarantee. And I don’t know how you want to go about that… I’ll leave it to you to how you want it done and where you want it done.

    Here is the section where Joe Biden starts talking and Joe Biden mentions Donald Trump!


    From the audio — Joe Biden tells Poroshenko: We will help you get the vote… Let me ask you one thing before I forget, Privatbank… This is getting very, very close. What I don’t want to have happen. I don’t want Trump to get into *** where he thinks he’s about to buy into a situation… where it is about to collapse where he is going to pour more money into Ukraine… So anything you can do to push the Privatbank to closure so that the IMF loan comes forward I stress this is critical to your economic and national security.

    MORE:

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...ing-viktor-shokin-investigating-son-imf-loan/
     
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  13. https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/t...-serious-moral-safety-issues-pro-life-experts
    from the article
    Amid wide concern over governments’ curtailing of basic freedoms in response to the pandemic, many have feared the possibility that vaccination for the virus could be made mandatory. In just one week, over 430,000 people signed a LifeSiteNews petition addressed to world leaders opposing a mandatory coronavirus vaccination.

    Military mobilization
    “Operation Warp Speed is making the necessary preparations to distribute these life-saving treatments at scale, so that millions of Americans will immediately have access to them,” Trump said Friday. “This includes ramping up production of supplies needed for distribution such as cold chain storage, glass vials, needles, syringes, and more.”

    “When a vaccine is ready, the U.S. government will deploy every plane, truck, and soldier required to help distribute it to the American people as quickly as possible,” declared the president.

    “We have the mightiest military in the long history of humankind. We have the best and most devoted workers ever to walk the face of the Earth. And now we’re combining all of these amazing strengths for the most aggressive vaccine project in history,” he said.

    After President Trump briefly introduced the idea of mobilizing the military to help deploy the new vaccines, some were concerned that this hinted that the drug would be forcibly administered. Earlier this week, one website asked, “what will you do when they come to your door, and tell you it’s mandatory?”

    However, President Trump addressed such concerns on Friday, saying that the new vaccine is for those “who want to get it. Not everyone is going to want to get it.”

    While none of the experts LifeSiteNews spoke with were concerned about forced vaccinations for the general population, Dr. Moy wondered if members of the military might be required to take the COVID-19 vaccination.

    “What if a soldier is Catholic or otherwise pro-life and they don’t want to take the vaccine?” asked Moy. “What will be done to them? Will they be allowed to exercise their moral conscience? Will they be kicked out of the military?”

    Dr. Moy suggested that Canadian citizens might face stronger pressure from their government to be vaccinated than U.S. citizens will face.

    When Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau was asked by reporters April 28 whether a coronavirus would be mandatory, he said, "As to what sort of vaccination protocols will be in place, we still have a fair bit of time to reflect on that in order to get it right.”

    The danger of politicizing an infectious disease
    In view of the herculean effort now being undertaken, Deborah Vinnedge worries about “the loss of medical autonomy of our own bodies and the loss of freedom,” if an untested vaccine is urged upon the population.

    Most of all, Vinnedge is concerned there will be fear-mongering during a presidential election year, and that a “serious health issue” will be “turned into a political issue.”

    The possibility that COVID-19 might be turned into a political football horrifies Vinnedge.

    Pitting Republicans against Democrats over a health issue like this at this time would be “sinister,” she said.

    The president named Dr. Mocef Slaoui, a world renowned immunologist who has helped create 14 new vaccines, as Chief Scientist heading Operation Warp Speed.

    Four Star General Guss Perna, who as the current commander of the U.S. Army Materiel Command is an expert in logistics, is Operation Warp Speed’s chief operating officer.

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/t...ntary-not-everyone-is-going-to-want-to-get-it
    WASHINGTON, D.C., May 19, 2020 (LifeSiteNews) – President Trump has stated that a future coronavirus vaccine will be voluntary.

    On Friday, the president introduced “Operation Warp Speed,” an ambitious Manhattan Project-style initiative to fast-track the development and distribution of a coronavirus vaccine by January 2021, tapping experts and resources in science, medicine, the military, and the private sector.

    Experts have warned that the plan raises serious ethical and safety questions which are of grave importance not only to pro-life citizens, but to everyone.

    However, President Trump did allay concerns about a mandatory vaccine on Friday, saying that the new vaccine would be for those “who want to get it,” adding, “Not everyone is going to want to get it.”
     
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  14. Very strange.....their former words don't bode well for their dear leader!

    UPDATE: Susan Rice Tells CBS Joe Biden’s Quid Pro Quo with Ukraine was at the Request of Barack Obama (VIDEO)

    .......

    Now this…
    During an interview with CBS News in October 2019 former Obama National Security Advisor Susan Rice says the orders came from the top, by Barack Obama.

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...d-pro-quo-ukraine-request-barack-obama-video/
     
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  15. Ah yes.....the covering of one's own ________ is beginning. It's just the old "I was only following orders" bit!

    BREAKING: Susan Rice’s Team Confirms She Was Directed By White House Counsel to Write January 20, 2017 Email About Secret Oval Office Meeting

    Obama’s Former National Security Advisor, Susan Rice, sent an email to herself on January 20, 2017 memorializing a secret January 5 Oval Office meeting.

    Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Sally Yates, James Comey, Susan Rice, John Brennan and James Clapper all were in the January 2017 Oval Office meeting discussing the phony Russia dossier and General Flynn’s phone calls with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak.

    Acting DNI Richard Grenell finally declassified the entire email and it was released to the public this week.

    The newly declassified portion of the email once again implicates Barack Obama and Comey!

    Barack Obama and Comey discussed Flynn’s communications with Kislyak.

    Several times throughout the email, Susan Rice claimed Obama instructed law enforcement to proceed “by the book.”

    Rice even wrote that Comey “affirmed that he is proceeding “by the book” as it relates to law enforcement.”

    Former US Attorney Brett L. Tolman spoke out about the Susan Rice email to herself. In a series of tweets, he showed that Rice’s efforts were not only to cover her and Obama’s behinds, they were to cover everyone’s behinds.

    US Attorney Brett Tolman was correct.

    It was revealed on Wednesday that Susan Rice’s bizarre email to herself was directed by the White House counsel.

    Via Fox News reporter Gillian Turner: Susan Rice’s team confirms to Fox News that she was directed by White House Counsel to write the Jan 20, 2017 memorandum documenting an Oval Office meeting in which President Obama and National Security officials discussed General Flynn.

    ✔@GillianHTurner#BREAKING: @AmbassadorRice’s team confirms to #FoxNews that she was directed by White House Counsel to write the Jan 20, 2017 memorandum documenting an Oval Office meeting in which President Obama & National Security officials discussed #MichaelFlynn.

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...ary-20-2017-email-secret-oval-office-meeting/
     
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  16. Trump administration ends federal fetal tissue research

    WASHINGTON
    — The Trump administration said Wednesday it is ending medical research by government scientists using human fetal tissue, overriding the advice of scientists that there's no other way to tackle some health problems and handing abortion opponents a major victory.

    The Health and Human Services Department said in a statement that government-funded research by universities that involves fetal tissue can continue, subject to additional scrutiny.

    The policy changes will not affect privately funded research, officials said.

    Fetal tissue is used in research on HIV and childhood cancers, treatments that enlist the body's immune system to battle cancer, and the hunt for a vaccine against the Zika virus, a cause of birth defects. The tissue from elective abortions would otherwise be discarded. Scientists use it to produce mice that model how the human immune system works.

    Ending the use of fetal tissue by the National Institutes of Health has been a priority for anti-abortion activists, a core element of President Donald Trump's political base.

    The government's top medical scientist, NIH Director Francis Collins, said as recently as last December that he believes "there's strong evidence that scientific benefits come from fetal tissue research."

    A senior administration official said the decision announced Wednesday was the president's call and not Collins'. The official spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss internal deliberations.

    The government has funded research using fetal tissue for decades, under administrations of both political parties.

    The government said there are currently at least three active federal research projects that involve human fetal tissue, and possibly as many as 12. Among university research projects funded by the government, officials said fewer than 200 of 50,000 rely on human fetal tissue.

    No university-led programs will be affected for the time being, the administration said. New projects that propose to use fetal tissue and current projects up for renewal will be subject to additional reviews.

    Last year, the administration announced a review of whether taxpayer dollars were being properly spent on fetal tissue research. As a result, NIH froze procurement of new tissue. On Wednesday, the administration also said it is not renewing an expiring contract with the University of California, San Francisco that involves fetal tissue research.

    Although HHS said it was trying to balance "pro-life" and "pro-science" imperatives, medical investigators said they feared the government would halt important research to satisfy anti-abortion activists.

    Kristan Hawkins, president of Students for Life of America, said in a statement that the administration has "once again done the right thing in restoring a culture of life to our government."

    The Susan B. Anthony List, a group that works to elect lawmakers opposed to abortion, said in a statement that taxpayer funding ought to go to promoting alternatives to using fetal tissue in medical research.

    The groups say alternatives are available; scientific groups say that's not the case for every disease and condition.

    Trump casts himself as "strongly pro-life," and his administration has taken many steps to restrict access to abortion, which remains a legal medical procedure. Trump has nominated federal judges who oppose abortion, attempted to cut money for Planned Parenthood, and expanded legal protection for medical providers who object to abortion.

    At a House hearing on the issue last December, neuroscientist Sally Temple told lawmakers the consensus opinion in the scientific community is that there is currently no adequate substitute for fetal tissue in some research areas.

    Temple explained that tissue samples from different stages of the life cycle are not interchangeable. "It is not the same material," she said. "It is a different developmental stage. It has unique properties." She was testifying on behalf of the International Society for Stem Cell Research.

    Testifying on behalf of the Charlotte Lozier Institute, which opposes abortion, biochemist Tara Sander Lee said tissues from infants who have to have heart surgery are among the alternatives. But Temple said researchers would readily use alternatives to fetal tissue if that was suitable.

    Research involving fetal tissue accounted for $98 million in NIH grants and projects during the 2017 budget year, a small fraction of the agency's overall research budget. NIH said that $98 million figure represents the entire budget for the grants at issue, even if only a smaller portion of a particular grant was devoted to fetal tissue research.

    HHS said in its statement that is taking such steps through a $20 million grant program announced last December to "develop, demonstrate, and validate experimental models that do not rely on human fetal tissue from elective abortions."

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-administration-ends-federal-fetal-tissue-research/
     
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  17. Tanker

    Tanker Powers

    Heaven has to be smiling as DJT chinks away at the façade of abortion.

    The media will spin this of course as Trump being anti-science. I would imagine most people don't even know that any of this is even occurring. Orange man bad is all that is announced. May the Lord bless our president.
     
  18. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

    This is amazingly wonderful news. I thank God for this, and it has made my day. Now, if this research were banned outright as it was before George W Bush's term as president we would make much more progress. I just declined a medication for this very reason. It was developed using aborted child tissue and mouse cells. It is being used to treat cancer patients as well as rheumatoid arthritis and some other immune system diseases and is a commonly prescribed form of medication for them. There are many more.
    I had to spend some time researching this recommendation by my doctor to understand this because they conveniently do not advertise this on the brochures for medications they hand to you at the doctor's office for consideration. I would suggest being very careful about any form of medicine that is injectable or used via IV infusion.
    Also something to consider is that research money is being spent on this Frankenstein's lab form of science at a much higher rate than on researching more mundane medications such as Hydroxychloriquine and developing other medications which are far far less profitable but are also effective in helping to control disease in a way that is not taking life of another person to do so. The public knows virtually nothing about this because the science is little understood and only looks at the potential gains or relief from pain and a life of severe disability. I did this for many years myself.
    Some of these life taking medications are very effective and as time goes on I believe Frankenscience will find many more uses for them. Maybe even some miraculous cures. I would venture that most of the injectable forms of medication advertised on TV use these antibodies and are developed using a similar process.
     
  19. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

    Until Bush this Frankenscience was banned in America. Maybe one day, God willing it will be yet again.
     
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