Father Michel Rodrigue Facebook Post about the Warning.

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  1. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    Actually, it is God who has the final say or not. Just as he did in Fatima, Akita, Lourdes, Guadalupe and every other once alleged prophecies. If they are true, He will make it be known through signs and miracles as he has always done. In the mean time, the bishop can scratch his head all he wants, but it does not keep the faithful from studying his messages unless and until they have been condemned. The naysayers will always say something is false, till it is proved otherwise. Yet, scripture say's to not despise prophecy, but test, and hold on to that which is profitable.
     
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  2. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie


    I see my comment has generated some controversy. That was not my intention. I’m still on the fence about Fr.
    I didn’t accuse anyone...I simply asked the question. In reality, if I believed the world economy would collapse, I myself would give away what I have. However, Fr. Michel may or may not be a valid mystic/prophet. If one hears his call to give up or give away their money/ assets that they may actually need into their future...to whomever.... that’s a pretty big deal. Those who would act on the belief that he is hearing from heaven as Charlie’s Johnston claimed he did and was proven seriously wrong, folks could stand to lose their retirement....then what? It happened to followers of Charlie. I am just throwing out a caution to the faithful.....and rightfully so. With all of the recent controversy surrounding this priest, folks may stand to lose a lot if he’s wrong....regardless as to where their life savings may go.
    One can choose to believe he is a true, authentic prophet , and well he might be.....but what if he isn’t? What if someone in his audience or on you tube takes his call to heart and gives away their needed financial resources because he has called them to....and he’s wrong? I’m a great believer in mystics....when they tell me to get my spiritual life in order, I listen. But, this priest is not a “know prophet”... I’m a great believer in Sr. Lucia, St. Faustina, Padre Pio....but I know very little of this Fr. Michel.
    What track record other than what he’s told us do we have to place the confidence in him to heed his call to give away resources that might put some believers in serious financial jeopardy? This is a very fair and valid question. Until this month, I’ve never heard of him. He says a lot about world events that I believe could transpire....things I’ve been hearing for years. But short of that, I believe the faithful need to exercise great caution to place their confidence in him with regards to their finances. I’ll repeat, tons of folks believed in Charlie...I personally know of friends who made life altering decisions based on his prophecies....and have regretted it. Charlie appeared at events with Mark Malett as well. At the very, very least, we need to vet Father. The faithful believers deserve to know more before putting their full faith into everything he says.
    That’s not accusatory, it’s just good sense and prudent. He may be the real deal...but please, let’s get the whole story. Personally. I think much of what he’s said is coming is highly probable. I would hope that his locutions are validly approved. If they are and I’m not aware of it, please tell me. I’ve been wrong before and I’m more than open for correction...
     
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  3. Booklady

    Booklady Powers

    Speaking of getting our spiritual life in order, Beth, right now, my most important concern is getting a general confession before the Covid virus gets me. So far nothing from my bishop as to when he plans to reopen the Sacraments to the sheep.

    I feel like sending a want ad to the local paper: Lost sheep in need of a pastor.
     
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  4. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Praying for you to get to Confession
    We have drive up confessions here
    I hope you can find something
    Maybe in another diocese
     
  5. Yes, it has been so rampant in Rome/Vatican that Fr. Gobbi said the priest/s there have their certificate of Priesthood in one pocket and their Masonic membership in the other.
     
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  6. AED

    AED Powers

    :(
     
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  7. I don't think there was much out there for people to learn anything about Fr. Michel prior to the talks he gave during his retreat which are on YouTube....and the messages written out. People would have no reason to know him until he was given the kind of knowledge that he was to convey to the public. Now his history is given because people are interested and it shows that he's been given a lot of heavy responsibilities as a priest that include positions that demonstrate his high intellect (A+ in his own priestly studies) as a teacher, formation of future priests, hospital minister, parish priest, official Exorcist of the Church, and now a founder of an apostolate of priests, consecrated laity, and families. Beyond seminary he had subsequent studies in psychology and areas of theology, such as mariology, pneumatology, the writings of the Church Fathers, graduating with a doctorate in theology. I think his simplicity and humanity, many times self deprecating, w/ his learned background, show anything but pride. He's apparently a respected exorcist w/ a similar approach and experience like Fr. Amorth. He's rather similar to Fr. Gobbi in his childlike approach to his experience w/ the mystical world....laughing and being plain spoken. He has the evidence of healings due to his prayers. It would appear that what he was given about travel in general at a particular time was pretty prescient since it crisscrossed the time of this pandemic. We'll have to see what is next, during this summer as well as we approach this most important election which is pivotal esp. for this country upon which the world depends in so many ways for leadership, but, again, the warning about this fall that is also the time for this current battle's central event appears to be logical. Prophecies are not set in stone while being warnings of what is likely to occur IF people don't change....and right now if it weren't for such guidance from above we would be more like mushrooms, kept in the dark w/ manure thrown on us!
     
  8. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie

    you are absolutely right....personally, there is nothing...nothing I’m more concerned about more than confessions. I want to do a general confession ASAP. I actually do believe that anything is possible in the world today. I’ve done this before, but in these grave times, it’s the only thing that really matters. Our eternity is everything. I pray the warning comes soon....then I’ll know and see my soul as God sees it....not as I see it. I might then be able to make a good confession...pray God!

    By the way, if I had the money, I’d put your ad in the newspaper....maybe then they might get it! Nothing from our bishop either Booklady:(
     
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  9. fallen saint

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    I don't see whats wrong. Jovial man.

    :(
     
  10. Irishguy2

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    Padre Pio was a very rare priest who doesn't publicise himself in the first place. He had plenty of enemies including his own provincial bishop (homosexual) who went against him. Archbishop protested on Pio,which went all the way up to the pope. Pio kept his own counsel which contrasts to Fr Michel.

    Met one or two saintly priests which I didn't realise it until after their death. They had a spiritual aura and got themselves in rapt at times. One of them was a mystic as he was a different person at mass. I was totally naive, clueless and starting out etc which I hadn't a clue about mystical side except for one clue uttered to me re him. They don't tell everybody about themselves as opposed to Fr Michael.

    It seems to me that Fr Michael is broadcasting and showcasing his profile which is anethma to any sincere holy priest in question. What's the reasons for it? attention seeker or needs money or ??
     
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  11. Pio kept his own counsel which contrasts to Fr Michel.


    In fact, just the opposite..... he immediately obeyed and asked that any reference to the Bishop giving him full support (even that pic where it was evident that the Bishop was involved in the new apostolate) be taken down. Where has Fr. Michel not kept his own counsel about this? Haven't heard from him.

    People have asked for his background and it has been given.....not necessarily by himself but when anyone is giving a retreat people would have need to know the background.....if to show nothing but the qualifications to preach and teach on such subjects. Logical and actually probably required as not to keep the faithful in the dark. Unfortunately we've seen quite a few of those who were not transparent and such info was offered, and came out, too late, and not by them, causing a lot of suffering and disillusionment of the faithful.
     
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  12. Julia

    Julia Immaculate Heart of Mary, pray for us.

    I was trying not to be blunt in my post. But here it is. I don't believe for one minute the Bishop is stupid. And there is no way on God's earth that he is unaware of Fr Rodrigue having alleged Heavenly encounters. Fr R's encounters are written in Christine Watkins book for a start. The point to be blunt here; what the Bishop is prepared to state publicly and what the same Bishop most likely knows privately are two different things. I think it is called diplomacy, when a person in authority decides it is prudent not to publicly acknowledge something he or she privately knows, this does not imply belief or unbelief for case in point. I think it is also called prudence.

    I would rather not have put this view in print, it is borderline uncharitable towards the Bishop for whom I have utmost respect. And I know from reading on line, there is always someone who does not get it, and fires back with a load of other reasons when all they want to do is lock down other views that don't fall in line with their own. This is why, people who do not trust or believe Fr. Rodrigue should walk away. That is what I do with visionaries or locutionists who seem to me not to be genuine. I don't attack those on the forum who support them. Life is too short. No disrespect to you personally. Peace.
     
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  13. HeavenlyHosts

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    I don’t think we are attacking anyone. Those are strong words. If a member feels that they have a contribution to make, then so be it. I do get your point, Julia. You have been trying to say this several times. But I happen to know something about this that I feel I should share. God bless. Everyone here is free to contribute or walk away.
     
  14. Irishguy2

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    The difference as I see it was Fr Michael did publicise his own case while Pio didn't . Thus Pio kept his own counsel but Fr Michael went on to publicise his own case instead of keeping counsel to himself. Saints don't seek attention to themselves.

    Fr Michael sowed confusion re his prophecies in public but Pio doesn't do prophecy in public & it's usually between Pio and the petient in confession box re prophecy which was clear and short with no confusion. Finally I'm not on Fr Michael side on this ,more on the opposite side.
     
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  15. How did he publicize his own case by being obedient in asking for what the Bishop required? And I didn't know that P. Pio was given messages from heaven intended for the public but instead he hid from the public? That's news! I don't see the similarities for comparison between these two completely different kinds of priests w/their own individual callings.
     
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  16. fallen saint

    fallen saint Baby steps :)

    I still don’t see issue. God picks all sorts of characters. Pio was kinda grouchy...but perfect for what he was called to do.

    Fr. Michael is actually speaking on some very heavy topics. He is actually a breath of fresh air. What he is actually telling everyone to do...is pretty basic. Live the moment, be happy and prepare spiritually.

    We might not like his approach or we might not except his humor. But God picks all sorts of characters.

    I hate to say most of the priest and bishops I met...seemed to be good guys. Many of them were or became some very sinful people.

    I don’t know...I am usually the first one to fight nonsense. But Father Michael, from what I have read hasn’t said anything against the church or church doctrine. You could say he’s a goofball but that might make him effective preacher.

    I don’t know...as of today I see nothing wrong. But I will keep looking.

    very interesting character

    :)
     
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  17. That is quite a number of heart attacks. Ed, where did you learn of this background of Father Michel?
     
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  18. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Yes, I would like to know as well, please , Ed.
     
  19. Julia

    Julia Immaculate Heart of Mary, pray for us.

    If we feel some locutionist or visionary is not genuine, we can walk away. But to condemn them is not the job of Joe Bloggs on the internet. I believe that responsibility is for the Bishops. If the Church condemns someone, then we all have to walk away.

    It feels like everyone who does not feel or discern this Priest is already approved, wants to pass judgement on him.

    I saw a post from earlier saying be careful not to give away everything like money and goods etc as a result of Fr R saying the economy was going to collapse. I have no intention of acting irrationally and changing anything or giving away everything other than normal charity. And I hope there is no other person who would take such drastic measures because of what Fr. R says. We all know his prophesies are not approved by the Church authority. Common sense.

    There was a saint who once was asked what would he do if he heard the world was about to end, and he replied, I would carry on what I was doing until the end came. That means we carry on living sensibly, and don't take every word literally that we hear someone say. We don't literally do everything we hear in the Bible, and nobody seems to spend time trying to warn us in strong language about the consequences of that reality. That is how I see it. Peace.
     
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  20. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    As I said, everyone here is free to contribute or walk away.
     
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