Father Michel Rodrigue Facebook Post about the Warning.

I completely agree with you in all of the points that you have made, Frodo. It is unthinkable to me to begin a process of discernment here without speaking about these glaring discrepancies. The Bishop doesn’t seem to be a participant in any of them. These points you have made are all pertaining to the actions of Fr Michel. And I consider them very seriously problematic.

 

Yet, you don’t find it problematic for the Bishop to be clueless about Fr Michel’s messages. Strange. Why?

 

Please reread my post.

 

I have and you don’t explain how in todays world of info technology, Bishop Lemay never had any idea of Fr Michel’s locutions, visions, or messages. They’ve known each other for years, and you don’t find it strange that Bishop Lemay was clueless about Fr Michel? Come on Heavenly, let’s be honest. Do no be afraid.

 

And obviously the fact that Fr. Michel's creation of the new group of priests for the reason to train them for these times as well as building two monasteries, the second of which he was told to begin building in 2020, which of course need funding, all received the backing of the Bishop....and all of that came to Fr. Michel in his messages from above. The Bishop had to have been very involved in all of that and must have known Fr. Michel's reasons for these things ..... esp. since Fr. Michel needed permission to be relieved of at least some of his many other responsibilities in order to be free to do these missions. Just a bit of logic 101 explains a lot about the Bishop's own actions with regard to his relationship with Fr. Michel over and above his quick (one week) defensive reply to a commentary blog's question about that involvement. A Bishop who doesn't want to know everything about why a priest of his wants all of that and quickly which needs monetary backup? I don't think so.

 

And w/ that authority he's permitted him to accomplish a lot of things that themselves came to Fr. Michel through his messages of what he was asked to do....found the new special group of priests, specially formed for these times, and build two monasteries.

 

Broadside when he had to be the one to endorse the requests that were given to Fr. Michel in his mystical communications and give him backing for those missions of a new order of priests along with the two monasteries (which need funding) requested plus the elimination of some of Fr. Michel's responsibilities in order to devote his time to these undertakings? Countdown also had a pic of the Bishop w/ Fr. Michel at the ordination of his new priests but removed it after the Bishop's remarks. Now why would the Bishop not want that proud moment for the Church to also be hidden? Well, perhaps that actually does show his approval of just what Fr. Michel was asked to accomplish!

 

I've seen that timeline from Mark Mallett previous to this new site of his.

 

If there were no "unapproved" revelations to begin with we'd have no "approved" ones....and even those, btw, have been manipulated by Church authorities. To get them approved, like declaring saints, it mostly comes through grassroots insistence that they be looked at in a serious way. And....btw, with private revelations, their "approvals" can also be changed by another local authority who disagrees w/ a previous local authority. They are anything but written in stone....and that is why the Church gives various kinds of permissions that allow the faithful to read or discuss them prior to any future "approval".....like ecclesiastically approved Imprimaturs as guides for safety.

 

It is a religious apostolate.....many such formations of priests/monks/brothers/sisters are "associations of the faithful". They take religious vows, etc., according to their formation. Fr. Michel never said anything different as he names it as an "Apostolatic Fraternity" which IS approved by the Church....it is a religious formation of the faithful. And according to Canon Law the Bishop must be involved in their formation, approve it, work w/ the founder during the formation, as well as staying in contact afterwards for support. The Bishop of course was present at the taking of vows, etc., of the first members... the pic of which had been on the Countdown's site prior to having been taken down due to Bishop's request....since it, well, just might show his actual approval of these missions of Fr. Michel. Here is another one w/ the Bishop being present:



He would start a new religious order called Fraternité Apostolique Saint Benoît-Joseph Labre (The Apostolic Fraternity of St. Joseph Benedict Labre) in order to prepare priests for the future of the Catholic Church, along with a second branch for the lay consecrated and a third for families.

 

I hope everything is ok with the Bishop and Father Michael Rodrigue. Apart from the mystical happenings in Fr. R's life, it appears he and the Bishop have known each other for some years. No doubt they have a good relationship, and thank God for that.

I do however wonder if the Bishop needs to be prudent to protect his own back. In the picture of him with Fr R and the other young men, the Bishop did not strike me as a strong, assertive type of personality. And he might have panicked when he saw himself drawn into what could turn out to be a very public world wide exposure. The poor Bishop could potentially be more well known than the Pope. He looks like that would scare the heeby jeebys out of him. I don't say this disrespectfully. I am sure he is a good and holy man, God bless him.

But the hullaballo about Father R, would send a quiet humble Bishop into retreat. And on this Forum there sure is a hullaballo about Fr R. Sigh.

 

With respect, Julia, this isn't a simple disagreement between a priest and his bishop. The priest is claiming to be receiving visions and prophecies from Heaven to be relayed to the whole world and the bishop says he knew nothing about it. Don't you think that the Bishop should have been the first person the priest told? Fr. Michel can't be unaware of the procedure for receiving Church approval of messages or visions. That's aside from the apparent discrepancies and contradictions pointed out on this thread.

We all have a duty to be careful not to spread what could be false prophecies. That's not hullabaloo. It's prudence. Pointing out the problems with Fr. Michel and his prophecies isn't a personal attack on him. He could genuinely believe that the messages are from Heaven yet be deceived. His visions could also be symptoms of an illness. Neither would make him a liar or a bad priest.

I also believe the Bishop when he says he wasn't aware that Fr. Michel was including the visions and messages in his teaching outside the diocese. Why would he know about it? I'd be surprised if any Bishop spends time on youtube searching out videos of priests' talks. And that Countdown to the Kingdom website is fairly new and not very well known. I also think it wise for the Bishop to ask for the removal of photos of him with Fr. Michel until the matter is cleared up lest anyone use the pictures to suggest that the Bishop is giving wink and nod approval to the messages while officially saying he doesn't believe them. It's good to know that Fr. Michel and the Bishop are old friends. That should make it easier for them to clear up any confusion.

 

Interesting thread...it hard for me to believe most visions. But the people in favor of Father, I respect dearly. They are giving a good argument that he MIGHT be the real deal.

Does he have writings or have people transcribed his sermons.

I am actually interested now.

 

I would start here 1st, from a talk he gave in 2018. You can either watch the videos
or read the transcript.

http://wqphradio.org/2019/09/21/fr-michel-rodrigue-apostle-of-the-last-times-part1/

http://wqphradio.org/2019/09/21/fr-michel-rodrigue-apostle-of-the-last-times-part2/

Then I would go here and just go in order.

https://www.countdowntothekingdom.com/why-fr-michel-rodrigue/#messages

 

Carol, A bishop does not know everything about his priests. If he hears one has gone to a "retreat" but doesn't know more, is it likely he would investigate? Bishops are busy, they are struggling with money, vocations... Unless their are complaints or letters they will assume a good priest is doing "his job." In my diocese a priest was "blessing" "gay marriages" at City Hall...the bishop had no idea until there was a newspaper clipping of a "wedding"published in the newspaper...Lay people have to speak up & question...

I hope he stops public speaking until he and his bishop agree! It is not fair to his bishop to "freelance."

 

This is reasonable and well said, Dolours. Thank you so much.

 

Good observation, in Our Lady of Akita, Sister Sasagawa gave her visions to the local bishop, and she didn't go to other places or public gatherings to proclaim that she had a vision from Our Lady

 

If he is a Freemason and Melania is Catholic or Orthodox, that must make for an interesting home life.

 

In all cases such as these, the Bishop or the local ordinary, as it is called, is the first place to receive word of alleged messages.

 

This is a red flag. Fr. Michel Rodrigue is exalting himself by proclaiming to the world that Our Lady crowned him as the Apostle of the End Times. Where is the humility?