The Vatican Has Fallen

Discussion in 'Church Critique' started by padraig, Dec 31, 2016.

  1. As the email sent to me with this link said..."Houston, I think we have a problem"!

    Cardinal Cupich performs Chinese 'lion-awakening' ritual prior to Mass

     
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  2. AED

    AED Powers

    :cry::cry::cry:
     
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  3. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    Cupich's abomination was performed back in January. Didn't do much good, did it? While checking around the internet on these rituals, I came across the statement that 'In the Chinese hierarchy of animals, the Dragon reigns supreme'.
     
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  4. Tanker

    Tanker Powers

    Cupich is a fool and appears to have no belief in God or fear of. :(
     
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  5. AED

    AED Powers

    I listened to Dan Burke's interview on Lifesite news yesterday. He said as he suffered grievously with the Corona virus he felt God was telling him this is most certainly a chastisement --not just for the hierarcy's sacrilege but also for the many sacrileges committed against the Blessed Sacrament by the laity. He made a powerful arguement to repent on behalf of the laity for the way they treat Our Lord in the Holy Eucharist.
     
  6. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    The laity was given a choice by the Bishops to receive in the hand. The laity was told they could become EMHC by the Bishops.:(
     
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  7. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    It’s significant.
     
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  8. Xavier

    Xavier "In the end, My Immaculate Heart will Triumph."

    Yes, let's hope complete faith, deep reverence, burning love and humble gratitude to Our Good Lord for the Gift of His Blessed Sacrament, and for His Real Presence in the Holy Eucharist, is a lesson man learns from this chastisement. We can never be sufficiently grateful for so great a Gift of Himself as Our Lord makes in His Sacrament of Love. How are we thankful for it? If we continously treat Him with contempt and without respect for His Eucharist Presence, He may take this Gift of Himself away, as He has, for a while; but hopefully, everyone now, no more taking this Great Gift for granted, but deeply thankful for it, and completely believing, may come back with fervor to it when things open up again. It's good that many are following online devoutly for now; hopefully when things open up, with great fervor, people will return back to Eucharistic Tabernacles.
     
  9. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    Predicted at Grabandal --

    The Virgin’s second message arrived shortly before the end of the apparitions, on June 18, 1965. St. Michael the Archangel was given the task of communicating the message from the Virgin to Conchita.

    Since my message of October 18 has not been heeded and made known to the world, I tell you that this is the last one. Before, the cup was filling up. Now, it is brimming over. Many cardinals, many bishops, and many priests are following the way to perdition and are taking many souls with them. Ever less importance is being given to the Holy Eucharist. You must turn the wrath of God away from you by your efforts. If you ask His forgiveness with a sincere heart, He will pardon you. I, your Mother, through St. Michael the Archangel, wish to tell you to amend your lives. You are now in the last warnings! I love you very much, and I do not want your condemnation. Ask Us sincerely, and We will grant your plea. You must make more sacrifices. Reflect on the Passion of Jesus.
     
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  10. SgCatholic

    SgCatholic Guest

    The fallout post- Vatican II.

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  11. SgCatholic

    SgCatholic Guest

    Former EWTN News President: Communion in the hand leads to desecration at every Mass

    By Stephen Kokx
    Fri Apr 17, 2020

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/f...n-the-hand-leads-to-desecration-at-every-mass

    Excerpt:

    “During his conversation with Westen, Burke explained that what “struck” him the most during his illness is that Catholics have to repent and stop offending God with liturgical irreverence.

    “There are no issues of irreverence in the Latin Mass…there might be internally, but certainly not externally, as a norm. In the Ordinary Form of the Mass, every single day the Lord is desecrated — every single day, grave irreverence. Every single day we commit the most grave sins…against God himself in the realm of worship.”

    “90 percent of the time, priests are unfaithful to their vows in the way that they provide the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass because they're making stuff up,” he continued. The laity too “need to repent for usurping the role of the priest” at mass. They also need to repent for “receiving the Eucharist in a state of mortal sin.”

    I believe that the highest order of demons are concerned with the disruption of worship, the proper worship of God,” he said.

    Asked what he would do if a priest refused to adminster the Eucharist to him while kneeling, Burke said, “I would stay kneeling and see what happens...you have to take a spiritual stand.” If he was in a diocese where he couldn’t reverently receive the Lord, Burke said he would “leave the diocese.”

    Westen brought up how 1 Corinthians 11: 27 warns against receiving communion unworthily. Burke responded by saying, “I think it's a demonic reality that that passage never appears in the Ordinary Form lectionary.”

    Burke also relayed a story about how Nigerian Cardinal Francis Arinze once told him that communion in the hand “has been a disaster.”

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  12. SgCatholic

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    But who were these bishops really?
    Communists or Freemasons who never believed in Christ?
    Who infiltrated the Church as planned and described in the Alta Vendita?

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  13. AED

    AED Powers

    I think there is a lot of blame in every direction. So many things were suddenly being introduced into the Mass by "progressive" bishops that were never authorized by the Pope. But as Malachi Martin explained it in Rome they allow it once it is already out there by practice --wrong though it is. Thus JPII always insisted on Communion by mouth and BXVI too in their own liturgies but never proscribed such practices. Here in the US where I am it took off like wild fire. One liturgical abuse after another. Through prayer and a kind of interior red flag I simply determined to receive on the tongue although it was frowned on. (I also gave up a short stint as an Eucharistic extraordinary minister) Gradually many of us did it. Now it is a movement. Many kneel. I genuflect but without an altar rail I cannot kneel physically. With internet and social media any serious Catholic can find out the truth. The laity are guilty too. I have seen abuses and havent said anything. Maybe now it is time to start. Lots of blame to go around.
     
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  14. SgCatholic

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    I believe that these 'bishops' were not true Catholics, but infiltrators with an ulterior motive to destroy the Faith and the Church.
    I believe Bella Dodd's testimony.
    I believe what is written in the book 'AA1025'.
    (Can be read online at https://archive.org/stream/Aa-1025T...le/Aa-1025TheMemoirsOfAnAnti-apostle_djvu.txt)

    St Maximillian Kolbe saw the Freemasons processing in the Vatican, with banners proclaiming that Satan will sit in the Pope's chair.
    2 saintly Popes had the 'Alta Vendita' published so that Catholics would know the enemy's strategy.
    Pope Leo the XIII had the vision which prompted him to compose the St Michael prayer.
    Our Blessed Mother has given many warnings that the devil will infiltrate the Church.

    There was an unprecedented wrecking of the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, masterminded by Bugnini.
    It went sharply downhill from there.

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  15. SgCatholic

    SgCatholic Guest

    But there are always people defending the terrible changes that were introduced into the Church.
    I have faced this every time I've brought it up.

    Yes, all of us must do this.

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  16. AED

    AED Powers

    Yes you are right. Itching ears--as St Paul said. The "easier" way is very appealing. That was the whole point I think back in the launch of the Spirit of Vatican II. To make it all joy and fellowship and we-are-church and basically strip away everything Catholic so protestants could be comfortable with it. No "smells and bells" and no kneeling and no Rosaries and no novena. No no. "This is a meal not a sacrifice! "
    No kneeling because "we are an Easter people". (I had a priest tell me that when I wanted to kneel at the Consecration)Priests who stayed traditionally Catholic were scornfully referred to as"daughters of Trent". Thank God the tide has turned or at least is turning. Our Lady will triumph but oh we are in for a bloody battle. O Mary conceived without sin pray for us who have recourse to thee.
     
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  17. AED

    AED Powers

    Yes. All true I believe.
     
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  18. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

    Some good news...

    German cardinal: Access to public Mass is a ‘fundamental right’

    'It is about a fundamental right that is essential for our free society.'
    Wed Apr 22, 2020 - 3:35 pm EST | https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/german-cardinal-access-to-public-mass-is-a-fundamental-right
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    April 22, 2020 (LifeSiteNews) – Cardinal Rainer Woelki of Cologne has given an interview to the German broadcaster ZDF, in which he now calls for a loosening of the restrictions on public Masses in Germany. He insists that access to a public Mass is a “fundamental right” that is “protected by the Constitution.”

    Speaking to ZDF, the cardinal also stated that “we are not simply a cultural or an economical service,” but, rather that “it is about a fundamental right that is essential for our free society.”

    Woelki – who is the successor of the now-deceased Cardinal Joachim Meisner in the Archdiocese of Cologne – stressed that in the recent days during this crisis, “many people reached out to us in a more intensified manner, asking for pastoral care.”

    “This fundamental right, the state, the society has to demand – and also secure.”

    Cardinal Woelki made these comments in the context of the current debate and negotiations between the Catholic Church in Germany and the state. The German bishops are planning to start public Masses again on April 30. The Diocese of Dresden-Meissen (which covers most of the federal state of Sachsen) has already started to reopen Masses for not more than 15 faithful at a time. Woelki, too, let it be known that his diocese is preparing for public Masses again, with due hygienical protective measures.

    Cardinal Woelki further explained his position to the German Catholic newspaper Die Tagespost. “One the practical level, one has to add,” he stated, “that of course nobody believes that we will simply, from one day to another, return to the Masses as they were before the corona crisis.”

    “Such return to normalcy is still far away,” he added. But he insists that one should allow certain Masses with hygienic measures.

    Woelki's statement comes at a time where one of his fellow German bishops, Bishop Gerhard Feige of Magdeburg, is calling those faithful who are asking for the Sacraments “whining,” and “belligerent.” He also asked: “And in the face of the hardships and suffering of those who have to fear for their own lives or the lives of relatives, who hardly see an economic perspective for themselves or who are professionally on the front lines in the fight against the pandemic, aren’t our cancellations of worship services almost luxury problems?” Instead of asking for the Sacraments one should rather show solidarity and not act like “lobbyists.”

    This statement that has met with criticism comes at a time where in Germany's neighboring country, Austria, young Catholics are pleading with their bishops “please, give us back Holy Mass.” Sebastian Kurz, Austria's Chancellor, just announced that from May 15 on, public Masses may take place again.
     
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  19. padraig

    padraig Powers


    Thank you Jesus!! Light in the Darkness. May God raise up many Holy, Good Bishops to say the Holy Mass once more. Unlock our Churches!!

    https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/three-more-us-bishops-announce-return-of-public-masses-46313

    Three more US bishops announce return of public Masses

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    CNA Staff, Apr 23, 2020 / 08:45 pm MT (CNA).- Three Catholic dioceses have announced this week they will resume public celebration of Mass, subject to the requirements of public health orders and social distancing.

    The Montana dioceses of Great Falls-Billings and Helena both announced the re-openings on Thursday, April 23, one day after the bishop of Lubbock, Texas told his priests to prepare to restore access to Communion for Catholics in the diocese.

    The public celebration of Mass has been prohibited in dioceses across the United States for over a month as part of efforts to halt the spread of the novel coronavirus pandemic.

    The decisions come one week after Bishop Peter Baldacchino of Las Cruces, New Mexico, became the first bishop in the United States to lift the ban on public celebration of Mass in his diocese.

    In a short video posted on the diocesan website Thursday, Bishop Austin Vetter of Helena noted that the governor of Montana had initiated “phase one” of a readjustment of closure orders. “That does allow us to begin gathering for Mass,” the bishop said.

    Governor Steve Bullock’s phased reopening plan permits limited reopening for some retail venues and public gathering places, including bars and casinos.

    “Beginning on Sunday, those parishes that are able to comply with all that is necessary in phase one for a gathering are able to celebrate Mass,” said Vetter.

    The bishop added that it was not possible to guarantee that every church in the diocese would be able to open this weekend, owing to the limitations of space in some places and of sourcing necessary cleaning materials to comply with state regulation in others.

    “It is so important that you understand that not all parishes will be able to [reopen immediately]. Not because of lack of effort or desire,” he said. “I ask all of you good people of God to be patient with us. To be patient with us and with each other as we start phase one, to see how this goes.”

    Noting that on some occasions more Catholics would want to attend Mass than it will be possible to accommodate in compliance with social distancing, Vetter said “It’s so important that you realize that the Sunday obligation is still suspended for you. It is so important, if you are vulnerable, to stay at home – if you are elderly, if you are [just] not comfortable yet, don’t come. Come only when you are ready.”

    Vetter also said that parents with small children who would find it harder to observe social distancing may find it easier to remain home, or attend Mass as they are able individually, “at least until we can get a rhythm going and become more comfortable with how this is going to work.”

    Mass from the Helena cathedral will continue to be streamed live, he said, but would now be moved to the main altar since there will be a congregation.

    In a letter posted on the Billings-Great Falls diocesan Facebook page Thursday evening, Bishop Michael Warfel announced that he was lifting the ban on the public celebration of all the sacraments.

    “Public celebrations of the Sacraments are permitted as long as adequate spacing and social distancing are managed and maintained,” he wrote.

    In addition to Mass, the new directive also covers confirmations and first Communions, which are to be scheduled at the parish pastor’s determination, and baptisms, which are to be limited to immediate family and godparents.

    “Weddings may be celebrated with the limitations stated above,” the letter said, and made similar provision for funerals.

    Priests were instructed to consult with county health departments about precautions when administering the sacrament of anointing of the sick to patients with COVID-19.

    “All priests are encouraged to provide reasonable and prudent measures to ensure everyone’s safety, including their own,” Warfel said. “Everyone is encouraged to continue to practice good hygiene. People who feel sick should remain at home, as should vulnerable and at risk-populations.”
     
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  20. padraig

    padraig Powers

    May God Bless Texas..go get 'em. :D:D

     
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