Do we know if the Medjugorje seers will warn us when the Warning will come? I don’t think we know what events they will forewarn.
Heidi, some unknown lady took notes and you repeat them as third hand supposed info? He’s on video from multiple talks and gave the same presentations multiple times. Surely he’s on video saying this, or did the unknown note taker make a mistake?
Ladies, in charity I would highly recommend you look up the definition of the sin of detraction. Especially when you are slinging unsubstantiated third hand information that puts someone in a bad light. Much less slinging that gossip of detraction against a priest of Our Lord in good standing with his bishop and with Rome in an sort to put him in a bad light. good grief.
Still maintaining an open mind but I steer clear of John Leary. Doesn't sit right with me at all and Fr. Michel appearing with him makes me wonder about his prophecies. Nonetheless, I wouldn't go by notes someone takes on retreats etc as they could insert opinions of their own also as well as those of others on the retreat. I'd be careful there too.
Wow, where does this vindictiveness come from? Read that ludicrous “proof” that Heidi posted. Rambling anonymous notes that are numbered and interspersed with notes from John Leary. If you care to deal with the truth and not slander with unsubstantiated gossip you would see the fact that Father Michel never spoke concurrently with John Leary. One of them would talk and when finished then after a break the other would talk. they would never share the stage together and father does not agree with John Leary or support his messages: https://queenofpeacemedia.com/wp-co...e-does-not-support-John-Learys-messages-1.pdf so in charity my assumption, and I try not to assume anything but I’ll speculate here that whoever posted those notes anonymously made a mistake and attributed something to Father that they heard at the conference from somebody else.
exactly. And Father Michel quite clearly stated and signed a letter that he does not agree with John Leary and agrees with his bishop who stated Johns ideas are his own and not of divine origin. but there are people here that post on a public forum slander and detraction that continuously try to tie him together with John Leary and degrade him which is a mortal sin being posted against a Catholic priest in good standing on a public Catholic forum: https://spiritdailyblog.com/news/ma...-in-statement-on-association-with-locutionist
Please... As for Father not agreeing with John Leary, actions speak louder than words. That letter is dated in 2018 and yet he continued to appear with him. Not once, not twice, but over and over again in multiple locations throughout the country. A rather strange thing to do if "father does not agree with John Leary or support his messages." As for the notes they notes are written exactly how one would write notes at a conference. Of course they never spoke concurrently - why on earth would they do that? It is very common for an event with multiple speakers that they take turns. I have no reason to doubt the claims in the notes - which were written by a supporter and carried by websites supporting his messages. The thing is this isn't even the only questionable claim; he has also received messages speaking of the ball of redemption (Bayside apparition mentioned this and was condemned) .... His messages point to being influenced by other messages which is not a good sign. Funny how you are so insistent that slander and detraction is being done here to the Father (when all we are doing is trying to discern his messages using accounts of what he said and did) while you insist fellow posters are in mortal sin for using this criteria in their discernment. Seems to me like we have danced this danced before over good old Charlie FP.
Yes, Frodo. That is exactly what I was trying to express. I’m not sure exactly why people seem so heavily invested in this that they become almost enraged at questions raised. I have respect for Fr M in his priesthood and I like his personality. But I am not a believer in his message. That does not make me a mortal sinner. I deleted my posts last night to help people to simmer down.
I've also read somewhere in the past that the public would sense in their spirit that something big was coming, for 3 days in advance of the Warning....perhaps in order to prepare oneself through some kind of interior recollecting.
I don't know if any here have read anything about the theory, speculation, that has been gaining ground, of a connection between the 5G technology and the spread of the virus. It seems to me to be rather anecdotal but such times can make any such connections to become writ large. This one I saw today after a friend had already sent me an earlier notice. Cellphone towers attacked as conspiracy theory connecting 5G and coronavirus gains steam https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech...conspiracy-theory-cellular-towers/2955557001/ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++= And when speaking of the message about something else arriving after a break from this current (planned) virus spread (still not anywhere near the annual flu stats....suppose those victims aren't as useful to the "cause" and thus go unnoticed).....there is also a message to Luz de Maria that speaks of something coming, in same form, but where boundaries/borders won't stop it since it will be airborne!
Fatimapilgrim, I have done nothing wrong here at all. When I first posted about Fr Michel saying Lord Matreya was the Antichrist, I honestly thought I had read it on the Countdown to the Kingdom site. When others said they didn’t see it, I went back to find the source. I don’t claim to believe either way. When discerning seers, it is best to look at multiple sources. Like Frodo said, the note taker is a supporter of Fr. Michel. The sin of detraction would apply if I said something about a personal sin that Fr Michel committed. Pointing out a possible mistake is NOT the same thing. You should not be accusing others of sin when you don’t know their heart or soul....that is the judgement our Lord said not to make.
No problem Heidi looking for as many sources is important. I know Fr Michel is a priest, but even priests may be wrong. The thought that this chaos is not over and we have to store food and water for 3 more months is really hard to accept without a sense of frustration.
Plus it is in direct contradiction to what a priest of Sensus Fidelium said in a video: that this plague and interdiction against public worship is like what the Lord allowed to happen to Job. And when the trials were lifted from Job, he had great blessings and peace. The line of Scripture reads: “and the Lord blessed the latter end of Job more than his beginning.” Adoremus posted the video awhile back.
But I do remember a priest that we are very close with, who most of you have seen on EWTN say he believed the Antichrist was Maitreya. And the seer from Ecuador Pachi, is another one who says the same. So who knows?
666, THE ANTI-CHRIST: -------------------- Of course, the name Nero adds up to '666' in Greek. But there is more [Dt 17:15-17] "He whom you set over you as king must be your kinsman....But he shall not have a great number of horses; nor shall he make his people go aback again to Egypt to acquire them, against the Lords' warning that you must never go back that way again. Neither shall he have a great number of wives, lest his heart be estranged, nor shall he accumulate a vast amount of silver and gold." So there are at least 3 major things a king must never do: 1) great number of horses -------------war chariots/large army. 2) great number of wives -------------worship false idols/gods 3) accumulate vast amt. gold/silver----gold/silver--> greed; King Solomon was a prototype of a great King who had gone bad of which the entirety of 1 Kgs Chps 10&11 detail very nicely: [1Kgs Chps 10 &11] GREAT # HORSES: LARGE ARMY [1 Kgs 10:26] "Solomon collected chariots and drivers; he had one thousand four hundred chariots and twelve thousand drivers." GREAT # WIVES: WORSHIP FALSE IDOLS/GODS [1 Kgs 11:1] "King Solomon loved many foreign women besides the daughter of Pharaoh, from nations which the Lord had forbidden the Israelites to intermarry, "because" he said "they will turn your hearts to their gods". But Solomon fell in love with them. He had several hundred wives of princely rank and three hundred concubines, and his wives turned his heart." ACCUMULATE VAST AMT. GOLD/SILVER: GREED [1 Kgs 10:14] "The gold that Solomon had received each year weighed six hundred and sixty-six gold talents." (666 and listed first within 1 Kings 10&11) 666 WITHIN REVELATION ----------------- [Rev 13: 17-18] "so that no one may buy or sell unless he has the mark , that is, the name of the beast or the number of its name. This calls for wisdom: let him who has understanding reckon the number of the beast, for it is a human number, its number is six hundred sixty-six." Look at the above quote, 'this calls for wisdom'. 'WISDOM' is a reference to Solomon(Solomon was renowned for and prayed for wisdom) in [1Kgs Chps 10 &11] who was a prototype for a king who went bad and whom in [1 Kgs 10:14] taxed his people 666 talents of gold per year. So it would seem that the beast or Anti-Christ is typically a national or even a larger world stage figure(through conquest) with large armies, vast amt. of gold/silver or greed, and who is against(anti) Christianity and/or worships false gods. This certainly applies to Nero. Moreover, this figures within the 20th century with Hitler, Stalin , Pol-Pot, and Mao. Which are all anti-christs leading up to the final anti-christ of the end times. So thus, the general and precise meaning of what John and Revelation are getting at. What John wrote about in Revelations and 666 is not really about counting up letters in a name, that is rather an insignificant part. So in a nutshell, the AntiChrist should be a national/political figure, with an army, who is full of greed, and against Christ...which sounds like quite a few national leaders, but not this Maitrea character or someone without political power.
I do not want to get into a debate about true and false in particular cases. Arguments can become tiresome and endless. But I think a good tip is not to listen to what a particular person is saying but, rather what the person is. If they are humble things are fine. If they are not humble, time to hasten on else where. Humility is the one thing the devil cannot pretend. Pride the one thing he cannot hide. I would say a good rule of thumb is that over 90% of such things are false; probably far, far more than that. I don't want to be a dampner. Sometimes there is a diamond amidst the coals, but they are mostly black coals. Scripture tells us to, 'Test the Spirits'. I am afraid sometimes the testing part is being disregarded.
