Signs

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by themilitantcatholic, Sep 3, 2015.

  1. AED

    AED Powers

    :eek::eek::eek:
     
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  2. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    That's a misquotation, and one must question the motives of those who would propagate such ideas. Dylan has explained his motives for why he continues to work as '...the night cometh when no man can work', which is from John 9:4. I have never come across any quotation from Dylan in which he mentioned a 'Dealmaker'. There was an interview on the '60 Minutes' Programme some years ago in which he professed faith in 'The Chief Commander in a world we can't see'. Some have tried to claim that this was a claim for a deal with the devil, but given his entire career I have chosen to believe this very unlikely. In that interview, Dylan did speak of a deal. When asked what it was, his answer was 'to get where I am now'. In this, I don't think he is referring to wealth or fame. I think he is firstly thanking God for being spared his life, something which he expressed in 'Saving Grace', a song written just after his conversion. He professed gratitude in that song that he wasn't 'in a pine box for all eternity'. On other occasions, Dylan has introduced in concert his song 'In The Garden' as being about his Hero. In the introduction he'd give a list of famous people that he said weren't his heroes, then he'd say this next song is about my Hero, whom he sings of as 'The Son of God'. His Hero and Chief Commander. More recently he has sung about 'the Mother of Our Lord' ('Duquesne Whistle').
     
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  3. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    The lines by O'Dylan (from 'Pay in Blood'):

    You got the same eyes that your mother does
    If only you could prove who your father was

    1). Obviously a reference to Christ in a song whose main theme is 'I pay in blood, but not my own' and a jab at those who refuse to believe He is the Son of His Father.

    2). It certainly applies to Obama, doesn't it? At the time the song was released, Joel Gilbert had just released a film asserting that Obama was really the son of Frank Marshall Davis (and two lines before this, Dylan had made a very disparaging comment about 'another politician').

    3). Dylan himself had recently been the subject of someone claiming to be his son. These lines sound like Dylan's answer to him! The claim subsequently fizzled out.

    All these meanings are plausible. Then again, this applies to much of his work, including the recent single.

    Going back to your Irish claim, he obviously picked up a few tricks from those Clancy boys.
     
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  4. AED

    AED Powers

    DeGaulle thank you. This is immensely comforting..Ive been on the Dylan train since 1962 when a friend's brother came home from college with his first album.
     
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  5. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    No mere devotee of fame and fortune would release a first album in which most of the songs seemed to be about death!

    Think of: 'In My Time of Dyin'', 'Fixin' to Die', 'See That My Grave Is Kept Clean'. Real party music.
     
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  6. AED

    AED Powers

    You are right.
    The song that stays with me--there are many favorites too many to cite--but this one is haunting and so so true: everybody got to serve somebody.
    Think what Dylan has seen in his years of performing. The Dark Side without doubt. Johnny Cash is another one who bravely expressed his faith in the teeth of the godless media.
     
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  7. Mary's child

    Mary's child Powers

    Totally yuck!:sick:
     
  8. Muzhik

    Muzhik Powers

    Depends on the party. I can see college students hanging out in someone's apartment listening to his songs and having deep conversations about what the lyrics mean. Kinda like what we're doing here.
     
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  9. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    Another interesting snippet from that new Dylan song:

    "They killed him (Kennedy) on the altar of the rising sun".

    I have read today that apparently this is a reference to a Masonic ritualistic sacrifice. That lot seem to have their teeth in everywhere.

    Dylan's image is not unreminiscent of that Masonic abomination described by Malachi Martin in Windswept House.
     
  10. AED

    AED Powers

    I think Bobby Dylan is red pilled as they say in Q lingo and from the sound of it has been for a long time.
     
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  11. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    There's a televised interview of both Dylan and Carlos Santana from about 1993, when I think they toured together, in which Santana is asked about gun-laws and responds with the usual liberal spiel that everyone except his bodyguards should be disarmed. Then the interviewer turned to Dylan, who hilariously blurted out: "there's not enough guns".

    On a similar note, he lived in Woodstock during the time of the eponymous concert and his home and privacy was being regularly invaded by hippies, whom he deeply disliked. He is reported as complaining of New York State gun-laws which prohibited him from shooting them!

    This song from as early as 1964, when he was only turning 23, describes his 'red-pilling':

    Crimson flames tied through my ears, rollin' high and mighty traps
    Pounced with fire on flaming roads using ideas as my maps
    "We'll meet on edges, soon, " said I, proud 'neath heated brow
    Ah, but I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now
    Half-wracked prejudice leaped forth, "rip down all hate, " I screamed
    Lies that life is black and white spoke from my skull, I dreamed
    Romantic facts of musketeers foundationed deep, somehow
    Ah, but I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now
    Girls' faces formed the forward path from phony jealousy
    To memorizing politics of ancient history
    Flung down by corpse evangelists, unthought of, though somehow

    Ah, but I was so much older then. I'm younger than that now
    A self-ordained professor's tongue too serious to fool
    Spouted out that liberty is just equality in school
    "Equality, " I spoke the word as if a wedding vow
    Ah, but I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now

    In a soldier's stance, I aimed my hand at the mongrel dogs who teach
    Fearing not that I'd become my enemy in the instant that I preach
    My existence led by confusion boats, mutiny from stern to bow
    Ah, but I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now
    Yes, my guard stood hard when abstract threats too noble to neglect
    Deceived me into thinking I had something to protect
    Good and bad, I define these terms quite clear, no doubt, somehow
    Ah, but I was so much older then I'm younger than that now.



    Note his description of his progression from 'phony jealousy' (so much of that around now) to his discovery of 'ancient history' (he has included lines from Thucydides, Virgil and Tsun Tsu among others in his songs, whom he describes as 'corpse evangelists' and here there might be a veiled hint at certain other evangelists he was later to follow) which he had not thought of until he decided to become younger, his motto for abandoning stale and out-of-date liberal truisms, as exemplified by Pete Seeger and others in the folk-movement.
     
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  12. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

    DeGaulle, I still have to read through all of your posts about Bob Dylan and I am very interested. I just wanted to state that one of my children's English teachers from the Catholic HS they attended was a big Bob Dylan fan and she assigned the students to read and study his poetry/lyrics. I learned a little bit more about him as a result and I'm very glad for this teacher.(y)
     
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  13. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    I would be a little wary, in that a lot of his fans are quite liberal and try to use his lyrics for their own ends. Not saying that this teacher is one of those. I once read a blogger, since deceased, who described Dylan as the greatest Christian poet of the last fifty years. He did qualify his statement by saying that, sadly, there is little competition. Certainly, Dylan's lyrics with their structure, rhyme and meter are closer to classical poetry than most of what passes as 'poetry' nowadays.
     
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  14. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

    An interesting read on the exposure by Italian journalists in 2015 of China developing coronavirus to weaponize.

    https://greatgameindia.com/italian-...nese-biological-experiments-with-coronavirus/

    Italian State Media In 2015 Exposed Chinese Biological Experiments With Coronavirus To Infect Humans
    By
    GreatGameIndia
    -
    March 30, 2020


    Five years ago, Italian state owned media Company, Rai – Radiotelevisione Italiana, exposed dark efforts by China on viruses. The video, which was broadcast in November, 2015, showed how Chinese scientists were doing biological experiments on a SARS connected virus believed to be Coronavirus, derived from bats and mice, asking whether it was worth the risk in order to be able to modify the virus for compatibility with human organisms.

    Italian State Media In 2015 Exposed Chinese Biological Experiments With Coronavirus
    Below is a transcription of the Italian broadcast translated in English.

    Chinese Biological Experiments
    Chinese scientists have created a pulmonary supervirus from bats and mice only for study reasons but there are many questionable aspects to this. Is it worth the risk? It’s an experiment, of course, but it is worrisome. It worries many scientists: It is a group of Chinese researchers attaching a protein taken from bats to the SARS virus, Acute Pneumonia, derived from mice. The output is a super coronavirus that could affect man. It remains closed in laboratories and it is only for study purposes, but is it worth the risk – creating such a great threat only for examination purposes?

    The debate about the risks of research is as old as science itself. Like the myth of Icarus, who plunged from the Sky and perished in the sea, having gone too close to the Sun with the wings of wax designed by his father!

    Chinese scientists experiment on SARS virus to infect humans. Rai – Radiotelevisione Italiana
    Here is an experiment in China, in which a group of scientists has managed to develop a chimera – an organism modified by attaching the surface protein of a coronavirus found in bats of the common species called the Great Horseshoe Bat, to a virus that causes SARS in mice, although in a non-fatal form. It was suspected that the protein could make the chimeric hybrid organism suitable for affecting humans, and the experiment confirmed it.

    It is precisely this molecule, called SHCO14, that allows the coronavirus to attach itself to our respiratory cells and to trigger the syndrome. According to researchers, the two organisms, the original and even more so the engineered one, can infect humans directly from bats, without going through an intermediate species like the mouse, and it is this eventuality that raises many controversies.

    Just one year ago (this broadcast is of 2015), the U.S. government suspended research funding, which aimed to make viruses more contagious. The moratorium did not stop the work of the Chinese on SARS, which was already in advanced stages and looked relatively harmless.

    According to a section of the scientific community, it is in fact not dangerous. The probability that the virus may pass to our species was insignificant compared to the benefits of the virus – an argument that many other experts rejected. First, because the relationship between risk and benefit is difficult to evaluate and second, because especially in these times, it is more prudent to not put into circulation an organism that can escape or be removed from the control of laboratories.

    As soon that this broadcast went viral on the Italian social media, journalists and experts began explaining it away saying, that the virus in the video was not COVID-19. Even the British journal Nature, which wrote the very publication this Italian show was based on, clarified that the virus the broadcast talked about was not related to the “Natural” COVID-19.

    However, that is beside the point. This is not to say that the viruses are literally the same. This is to say that the information presented in the video is consistent with the information that China is doing a lot of research on bioweapons, and that the impact of the virus in the broadcast has a lot in common with mainstream information about the symptoms of COVID-19.

    The central monitor room at China’s National Bio-safety Laboratory. Nature
    Moreover, Nature itself had done a piece in February, 2017, on the BSL-4 laboratory in Wuhan, the Wuhan Institute of Virology, raising valid concerns and theories, and wondering out loud whether experimentation with deadly viruses was a good idea.

    “BSL-4 is the highest level of bio-containment: its criteria include filtering air and treating water and waste before they leave the laboratory, and stipulating that researchers change clothes and shower before and after using lab facilities. Such labs are often controversial….

    Future plans include studying the pathogen that causes SARS, which also doesn’t require a BSL-4 lab, before moving on to Ebola and the West African Lassa virus, which do… Worries surround the Chinese lab… The SARS virus has escaped from high-level containment facilities in Beijing multiple times… The plan to expand into a network heightens such concerns. One BSL-4 lab in Harbin is already awaiting accreditation; the next two are expected to be in Beijing and Kunming.”

    In January, 2020, Nature then sheepishly added an editor’s note to the top of the article, saying that there is in fact “no evidence” of this lab playing a role in the outbreak of coronavirus and that scientists believe that the source is likely “an animal market.”

    Meanwhile, the Italian scientists at Milan University are investigating whether the coronavirus outbreak actually began in Italy in the last quarter of 2019. Milan and Lodi cities of Lombardy administrative region reported a “significant” increase in the number of people hospitalized for pneumonia and flu in October and December of 2019. Meanwhile, amidst worldwide criticism, a $20 trillion lawsuit has been filed against China for waging Biological war using Coronavirus.

    Guido Taietti for GreatGameIndia. Guido is an Italian journalist covering intelligence, geopolitics and electoral marketing and author of the book “Trattato sul Sovranismo” (The Treaty on Sovereignism). Send in your tips and submissions by filling out this form or write to us directly at the email provided. Join us on WhatsApp for more intel and updates.
     
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  15. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

  16. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Connect the dots. The Pachamama sacrilege was in Italy in October, 2019.
     
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  17. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

    https://news.yahoo.com/suspected-sa...cribes-chinas-biosecurity-risk-144526820.html

    Suspected SARS virus and flu samples found in luggage: FBI report describes China's 'biosecurity risk'

    Sharon Weinberger, Jana Winter and Martin De Bourmont
    correspondents
    ,
    Yahoo News•March 30, 2020

    WASHINGTON — In late November 2018, just over a year before the first coronavirus case was identified in Wuhan, China, U.S. Customs and Border Protection agents at Detroit Metro Airport stopped a Chinese biologist with three vials labeled “Antibodies” in his luggage.

    The biologist told the agents that a colleague in China had asked him to deliver the vials to a researcher at a U.S. institute. After examining the vials, however, customs agents came to an alarming conclusion.

    “Inspection of the writing on the vials and the stated recipient led inspection personnel to believe the materials contained within the vials may be viable Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS) and Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS) materials,” says an unclassified FBI tactical intelligence report obtained by Yahoo News.

    The report, written by the Chemical and Biological Intelligence Unit of the FBI’s Weapons of Mass Destruction Directorate (WMDD), does not give the name of the Chinese scientist carrying the suspected SARS and MERS samples, or the intended recipient in the U.S. But the FBI concluded that the incident, and two other cases cited in the report, were part of an alarming pattern.

    “The Weapons of Mass Destruction Directorate assesses foreign scientific researchers who transport undeclared and undocumented biological materials into the United States in their personal carry-on and/or checked luggage almost certainly present a US biosecurity risk,” reads the report. “The WMDD makes this assessment with high confidence based on liaison reporting with direct access.”

    The report, which came out more than two months before the World Health Organization learned of a cluster of pneumonia cases in Wuhan that turned out to be COVID-19, appears to be part of a larger FBI concern about China’s involvement with scientific research in the U.S. While the report refers broadly to foreign researchers, all three cases cited involve Chinese nationals.

    The rest at the link...
     
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  18. FatimaPilgrim

    FatimaPilgrim Powers

    https://www.ktvb.com/mobile/article...west/277-f791186e-3307-4fb6-9a48-0f6aa3b0b169

    now google where the Utah earthquake occurred last week that knocked the angels trumpet from the Mormon tower and start to draw a line on a map. What are these earthquakes surrounding?
     
  19. A magnitude 6.5 earthquake strikes Idaho

    A preliminary magnitude 6.5 earthquake struck northeast of Boise, Idaho, on Tuesday night, according to the United States Geological Survey.

    There were no immediate reports of injuries, but residents on social media in several cities reported feeling the shaking. The USGS says the epicenter of the quake was nearly 45 miles west of the town of Challis and near Beaver Creek along the Salmon River Mountains.

    "Yep we felt it too. No reports of damage at this time," Boise Police Department tweeted. "Stay safe out there Boise. Call us if you need us."

    Shortly after in the same area, a 4.6 magnitude earthquake aftershock was reported, according to the National Weather Service.

    "We have not received any reports of injury or significant damage," Valley County Sheriff's Office posted on Facebook. "We suggest you check your propane tanks!!"

    The largest and most damaging earthquake in Idaho history occurred in 1983 when a magnitude 6.9 earthquake rocked the town of Challis, according to the Idaho Office of Emergency Management. Two schoolchildren died when they were buried under the rubble of a collapsed building. The quake caused about $12.5 million in property damage.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/31/us/idaho-boise-earthquake-trnd/index.html
     
  20. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

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