Agreed on no formal schism. But those who engage in the very plausible scenarios that you present will, in Reality, be removing themselves very definitively from the Church. The rest of us must remain stubbornly where we are in the knowledge that beneath this travesty will continue to remain the One True Church. Nevertheless, we might face a future in which if someone calls a priest for us on our death-bed, God only knows what will turn up. Many of us will be denied real priests. I trust Christ will compensate in other ways.
The deck is stacked and the stage is set for you know what to occur next. And this is how the persecution will begin even in our Church. This is very bad news. Very bad but Trust God and keep the Faith, He wins
Our time is short! Let us entrust Germany to the Immaculate Heart and offer some penance once a week for their conversion. Imagine if millions of Catholics did this simple step. God is in charge. The Lord is enthroned upon the cherubim! Psalm 29: 1 Ascribe to the LORD, O heavenly beings, ascribe to the LORD glory and strength. 2 Ascribe to the LORD the glory of his name; worship the LORD in holy array. 3 The voice of the LORD is upon the waters; the God of glory thunders, the LORD, upon many waters. 4 The voice of the LORD is powerful, the voice of the LORD is full of majesty. 5 The voice of the LORD breaks the cedars, the LORD breaks the cedars of Lebanon. 6 He makes Lebanon to skip like a calf, and Si'rion like a young wild ox. 7 The voice of the LORD flashes forth flames of fire. 8 The voice of the LORD shakes the wilderness, the LORD shakes the wilderness of Kadesh. 9 The voice of the LORD makes the oaks to whirl, and strips the forests bare; and in his temple all cry, "Glory!" 10 The LORD sits enthroned over the flood; the LORD sits enthroned as king for ever. 11 May the LORD give strength to his people! May the LORD bless his people with peace!
Francis Abolishes Priestly Celibacy https://gloria.tv/post/M8aqYRvoM3dG4P7UCxXC4mFt8?fbclid=IwAR0j877ZBv7uQaeYVxYSbylAwNLWVyfpxtVm2o-JlmvaUMYb7NlCcPxfmGU View attachment 11903
At least, for the time being, we can choose whether or not to fund it. Pity the faithful in Germany compelled to pay a tax for some pervert to incense their coffin at their funeral.
Today seems like a busy day with both good news and bad news abounding. Vigano's latest news out re. the college of cardinals, news on the celibacy leaked, it's Brexit Day, Trump will be acquitted today, breaking news on the coronavirus being engineered as a bioweapon. Seems to me the battle is ramping up and openly manifesting itself on earth, and seems to me that we've seen nothing yet and soon we'll yearn for slow calm days like this which is why it's important to Trust God and stay calm and steady
The cat is among the pigeons now. If St Brigid spoke true all those centuries ago we are going to see some very ugly things. Confluence of horror all around us. First Saturday tomorrow--confession and Mass and Rosary.
Okay all of you experts of process.....if the Eucharist is declared to be just the same as the Protestant's view and/or if the words of Consecration are deliberately and officially changed.....what would be the next step re: a declaration of a Pope as a heretic.....and could then a conclave to elect a new Pope be called by the remnant Cardinals of the True Faith/Magisterium? And do you think that such an action would have to be held underground since it would not be allowed otherwise, being banned from Vatican premises, etc., and perhaps even violence coming against such a movement. I'm not borrowing trouble but all of this "Bishop against Bishop and Cardinal against Cardinal" that is now occurring causes one to think ahead.
After listening to Taylor Marshall and guest discuss this very topic"can the Pope be declared a heretic" I would really like to know what comes next.
I was about to post the same question. Bishop Gracida said that Bishops appointed before the 2013 Conclave could convene an extraordinary Council of the Church but that was on the basis that the election was invalid. Pope Paul 1V issued a papal bull declaring that if it were shown that a man elected Pope had held heretical beliefs prior to being elected that man cannot be Pope even if he had been elected unanimously. It seems to me that the only way to get rid of Pope Francis is to find evidence of something contrary to the Faith that he said or wrote prior to his election. I don't think it matters whether the extraordinary Council would be in the Vatican or in the middle of a field. If it's the right thing to do, the Bishops should trust that God is with them and with God on their side who can be against them? As things stand now, we are expected to believe that the Holy Spirit deserted the Holy See and settled instead on the St. Gallen group. In that video I posted above (around the 1 hour 22 minute mark) Chris Ferrara said that the transgender couple Pope Francis invited to the Vatican, giving them a public blessing, said that they couldn't afford the trip and that Pope Francis left an envelope of cash at the Sta. Marta reception for them to cover their expenses. Not another penny will I give to Peter's Pence as long as he is Pope. Cardinal Sodano seems to have been a real piece of work. Also in that video, Chris Ferrara said that Pope Benedict didn't just say that it would be a mistake to think that the prophetic message of Fatima is complete. Pope Benedict actually used the word "deluded". The latest revelations by Archbishop Vigano about Cardinal Sodano prompted me to look up some old news stories about the Third Secret of Fatima and I found these two on the 1Peter5 website: - the report about Cardinal Ratzinger telling Fr. Dollinger shortly after the secret was released that all the secret had not been revealed and that the part withheld concerned a bad Council and a bad Mass to come "in the near future". That was in the year 2000, so Cardinal Ratzinger doesn't seem to have been referring to Vatian 11 https://onepeterfive.com/cardinal-ratzinger-not-published-whole-third-secret-fatima/ - the report about Cardinal Ciappi, who had read the secret, revealing that, among other things, "the Great Apostasy in the Church will begin at the top" https://onepeterfive.com/alice-von-hildebrand-sheds-new-light-fatima/
I have great respect for Alice, Dolours; Thank you for mentioning this again. It actually is reassuring for it helps me believe I'm not nut-so! O Mary conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee!