The Vatican Has Fallen

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  1. Sam

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    You know, I'm beginning to like little pigtailed Greta. How about we all go to Rome with big placards with HOW DARE YOU? written on them, march in there and throw all that filth out of there and put up a Divine Mercy image instead. If we need a few whips, so be it. And I just prayed a rosary, sigh. Jesus how long? Jesus I trust in you!
     
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    Any one rich on the forum who will pay our way?:whistle::LOL:
     
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    That woman is wearing a witch’s hat.
     
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  4. Dolours

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    Too early for Halloween. If she hung a few corks out of it she'd pass for Crocodile Dundee. Just as well it isn't a saturno or she'd be scratched off the Pope's Christmas card list.
     
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    :p:D
    but I’m serious, that is a witch’s hat.
     
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    I had actually thought about this. If I were in Rome I would go into the Church and break that idol into pieces. That would be worth spending some time in jail. I'm actually surprised someone has not done that yet.
     
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    I’m surprised as well
     
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    Holy Hour of reparation tomorrow!!
     
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  9. Dolours

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    I don't think so. It looks more like a fedora
    https://www.hatsandcaps.co.uk/brixton-hats-ella-wide-brim-fedora-hat-red-red/

    I'm sure they have plenty of security. You probably wouldn't get near them.
     
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    The cleansing of the Temple. If Jesus walked into that church He would join you in breaking that idol into pieces. I wish I had never heard the word Pachamama.
     
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  12. Dolours

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    Do they use the Gregorian calendar in the Rain Forest or are they still on the Julian calendar ;)?

    The First Friday is probably a carry over from the days before the Franciscan and Jesuit missionaries had a paradigm shift from evangelism to political activism. One Jesuit in Peru who is something of an expert on the topic said that there are examples of a kind of syncretism in the religion of the indigenous people. There are bits and pieces of what they most likely learned from the early missionaries worked into their world view.
     
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  13. Dolours

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    I think that the picture of the Irish witch was photoshopped.
     
  14. Praetorian

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    Definitely. They keep calling them Catholic, but from what we have seen it does seem to be a strong religious syncretism rather than Catholicity. I am sure the Amazon has many good Catholics in it and I am not meaning to malign our good brothers and sisters there, but from what we are seeing in Rome it seems that a Catholic-pagan mix is emerging. And that is not Catholic.

    I don't know if anyone saw it and can post it if you can find it, but I read an article somewhere a couple of weeks ago about one of the men who is supposed to be one of the new "Viri Probati". He basically said he is planning on incorporating native religious practices into the Mass. I think this is what the synod fathers are referring to when they mention an "Amazonian Rite."
     
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    I had the EXACT same thought the other day! Why hasn't anyone done this?
    Some holy, righteous soul needs to imitate Moses and destroy that idol!!
     
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    I saw that as well. Question is, how far reaching would that go? I can't imagine we would all be told this is the new Mass everyone must switch to.

    Amazonian Rite would not be the Roman Rite is not the Latin Rite is not the Triniterian Rite.
    In my opinion, that's just not going to happen.
     
  17. Dolours

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    A few people involved in the Synod have said that the new rite will incorporate native religious practices. They will set up a committee to invent it. This twitter feed has a video of one of their ceremonies. It's not the same ceremony that they had in St. Peter's Basilica before the Mass for the opening of the Synod. It's probably in Santa Maria in Traspontina. A few people tweeted that the song they are chanting translates to something like "Everything is connected like we are one. Everthing is connected in our common home".
    https://twitter.com/EagerMonk/status/1185164357031944192

    Here's another twitter feed from the same EagerMonk account with a video of another ceremony. I think it may be in the same church. Someone translated the words of the song as "to be only now and always be one, to be all in each one, to be one”. https://twitter.com/EagerMonk/status/1185142866290626562

    Read down through the tweets on the page, where EagerMonk tweeted "They're not doing a strict ritual. They created a ritual mixing "sacred feminin" rituals from South America. That's the point, they will never say "this is Pachamama" because it isn't...It's some mixed religion connecting Pachamama and Oxum (river goddess from brazilian paganism)", and someone responded with the comment "Yea, but,....." and posted these two pictures.

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    That Twitter page gives some more info about what has been happening in the Church in Brazil.

    Someone else posted this comment: "No surprise... Around here in Brazil, the Franciscans are one of the many problems. They are out of control for decades. Leonardo Boff was one of them and his heretic books continue to be used in seminaries."

    This Amazonian Synod is a joint Franciscan/Jesuit production funded by the Germans. How could it go wrong?:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

    But it isn't just the Franciscans who are responsible for the collapse of the faith in Brazil. Also posted on that feed is a video showing what looks like a transvestite cavorting down the aisle of a Catholic Church. He was a priest of the Divine Word Missionary order. Here's a wiki page about him, which, although evidently written by one of his admirers, should give you an idea of the state of the Faith in that part of Brazil: https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/José_de_Souza_Pinto Syncretism seems to have been common in that region.

    The homosexual paedophilia plague also took its toll in Brazil. They probably had/have some good Bishops but what chance would they have if the opposition included both the Jesuits and the Franciscans?
     
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    No, it wouldn't become a worldwide rite (at least I hope not) but I could very easily see local churches being asked to incorporate an idol similar to the one they have in Rome. Maybe put it in front of the altar...just to show solidarity with our brothers and sisters in the Amazon. After all the goal is to paint an "Amazonian face" on the Church. Whatever that means.

    Then we would all have to find churches who refused to put that idol up to go to.

    I know that might sound far-fetched, but hey two weeks ago so did holding a pagan ceremony to kick off the synod.
     
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    Excellent info thank you Dolours.

    This is definitely a push to officially mix Catholicism with native religions. And that isn't Catholicism at all. Not any more than Santeria or Voodoo. Just because your religion has some Catholic imagery in it doesn't make it Christian.
     
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  20. Dolours

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    That's not all of it. Someone linked to this report about a "concelebration" in 2018 involving Catholic Bishops and Anglicans, including two female Anglican priests: https://translate.google.com/transl...sivel-ou-continua-sendo-um-gravissimo-delito/

    Near the top of the comments section, beneath that report, someone complains
    "Convents are not enough to make blasphemous cribs.
    Foul theologians are not enough to propagate theologies in symbiosis with communism.
    It is not enough to fill the Church with quacks of faith.
    Seminars forming homosexuals, transgender and degenerate are not enough.
    They need more, they invent more to definitively destroy Christianity in the world."

    In response to that comment, someone asks
    Could you please present a seminar in Brazil that is forming or has formed a transgender?

    And a priest replies:
    I know it! I studied at a seminar in Brazil and lived with one at least. It's unfortunate, but it's real. After surgery still recovered within the Seminar. I will not give names
    The comments about the transgendered seminarian may well be wrong but there's no denying the photo of the Bishops and Anglican clergywomen concelebrating Mass.


    If only half of all this stuff is true, I'm surprised there are any Catholics left in Brazil.
     
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