Yes this is a travesty of Justice. These poor souls in the Amazon deserve to be told the Truth. A Church that does not believe in evangelizing and converting the world has lost it's mandate and reason for existing. What good is it anymore? You are the salt of the earth. But if the salt lose its savour, wherewith shall it be salted? It is good for nothing anymore but to be cast out, and to be trodden on by men. -Matthew 5:13
Who's going to opt to commit their whole life and being to something that the one transmitting it obviously has no belief in? Anyway, what kind of a 'gospel' are they preaching? The evangelicals are preaching the literal word of the bible-believe it or not, it is still catholic doctrine that the Bible is an infallible document, in which God has said all that He wanted to and which contains nothing that He didn't want said. Instead, they've got lost within so many metaphors and modern interpretations they can no longer see the difference between Christianity and paganism. Now they're doubling down on what has failed utterly for fifty years. It can only be their intention to fail, nobody can be this stupid.
Guys, try this. Throw this at 'em. Pray, if we can't go there, at least pray. http://holyfacedevotion.com/full_litany.htm
Yeah it's nuts. Like a lot of stuff Pope Francis comes out with. It sounds wonderful. Great sound bite. Then you take these things, these little bits of, 'Wisdom' , away with you to think about and.. ..suddenly.. ,,you discover that they don;t mean anything at all.. ...that they're nuts and that the person who is coming out with such things is nuts. That the Emperor has no Clothes. The trouble being that even critics who try to argue with these things enter never never land themselves But imagine someone going up to the Holy Father and suggesting to him that he is coming out with nonsensical ramblings; what would become of them?
Yes! The simple folks at the Amazon and similar areas in the world couldn’t care less about global warming or transgenderism or the enlightened words of Karl Marx. They laugh at this stuff and instinctively reject it. But they hunger for Jesus. That’s why our evangelical brothers convert them by the millions while Catholic Churches remain empty and priests disappear.
Quite the beautiful Litany, garcia! I love this line within: O adorable Face, whose Divine look wounded the heart of Peter, with a dart of sorrow and love! It was that wound which enabled Peter to both grieve and repent! Jesus, never let the wound of despair follow upon my sins! O Mary conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee!
“An appeal was raised to protect aquifers from chemical contamination deriving from multinational productions, so that the indigenous populations may survive,” it said. “Several times bishops recalled the necessity of respecting both human and environmental rights,” the bulletin said, “because a truly integral ecology requires a new balance between man and nature.” The above quote from a Crux article speaking of Day 1 at the Synod fails to mention that one of the contaminants affecting our aquifers are contraceptive wastes which are feminizing the fish among other sorry affects. Hmmmmm... If there was no mass use of contraceptives, a "new balance between man and nature" would be closer to reality! O Mary conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee!
Oct. 8, 2019 | http://www.ncregister.com/blog/edward-pentin/fr.-weinandy-commentary Father Thomas Weinandy: Threat of Church Division ‘Growing in Intensity’ Father Weinandy calls on the Catholic faithful to pray “in fear and trembling” that Jesus might “deliver us from this trial.” Edward Pentin The Catholic Church is heading toward an “internal papal schism” whereby Pope Francis effectively leads two opposing factions, Capuchin theologian Father Thomas Weinandy has warned. These are divided, he said, into one loyal to the papacy yet critical of this pontificate, and the other supportive of him due to his tolerance of ambiguous teaching and pastoral practice. “This is the real schism,” observed Father Weinandy, a former chief of staff for the U.S. bishops' doctrinal committee, in a commentary published today in The Catholic Thing. It is a situation “ever growing in intensity,” he added. A member of the Vatican’s International Theological Commission, Father Weinandy began by clarifying that he believes when the Pope refers to contemporary schismatics in the Church, he means his American critics. But he pointed out that the “overwhelming majority” of those critics “would never initiate a schism” as they wish to remain faithful to the Pope, even if that means being critical of him. The Capuchin also believes that the German Church would also not go into schism, despite their bishops’ wish to take their faithful down a “binding” synodal path contrary to the universal tradition of the Church. They would not break away, he believes, because they would lose their Catholic identity, something they could not afford, and will, in any case Father Weinandy believes, be allowed to pursue ambiguous teaching and practice as it is “in accord with Francis’ own.” Placing the German situation in the broader context of such controversies as Amoris Laetitia, advancing the homosexual agenda, refounding the Pontifical John Paul II Institute, and an Amazon Synod “teeming” with participants sympathetic to such ambiguous teaching, Father Weinandy said the Church finds herself in a situation “she never expected.” On the one hand is a “majority of the world’s faithful” loyal to the Pope because “he is their pontiff” but “critical of his pontificate,” and on the other is a “large contingent” of the world’s faithful who support him because he “allows and fosters their ambiguous teaching and ecclesial practice,” he noted. “What the Church will end up with, then, is a pope who is the Pope of the Catholic Church and, simultaneously, the de facto leader, for all practical purposes, of a schismatic church. “Because he is the head of both, the appearance of one Church remains, while in fact there are two,” he observed. ‘Internal Papal Schism’ “The only phrase that I can find to describe this situation is ‘internal papal schism,’” Father Weinandy explained, “for the pope, even as pope, will effectively be the leader of a segment of the Church that through its doctrine, moral teaching, and ecclesial structure, is for all practical purposes schismatic.” The Capuchin systematic theologian added that this is the “real schism that is in our midst and must be faced,” but he did not believe Pope Francis to be “in any way afraid of this schism.” “As he is in control, he would, I fear, welcome it, for he sees the schismatic element as the new ‘paradigm’ for the future Church,” he said. Father Weinandy called on the faithful to pray “in fear and trembling” that Jesus might “deliver us from this trial,” but added that the Lord may want us to endure it, because only perhaps then may the Church “be freed from all the sin and corruption that now lies within her, and be made holy and pure.” He ended on a “hopeful note,” saying it will be up to the laity to “bring about the needed purification” and, in particular, “faithful and courageous Catholic women” whom he called “the living icons of the Church.” Father Weinandy has been one of the frankest critics of this pontificate. In 2017, he wrote an open letter to Pope Francis saying he was causing “chronic confusion,” committing “calumny” against some of its critics, and risked “sinning against the Holy Spirit” because of his “seemingly intentional lack of clarity.” He said he decided to write the letter after much prayer, internal struggle, and asking the Lord for a “clear sign” which he received. Critics such as John Gehring said Father Weinandy and others were “self-styled guardians of orthodoxy” who did not understand that the Pope is “rescuing doctrine” by insisting that “human beings, in all our complexity and messiness, must be at the center of the Church’s vision.” Last year, Father Weinandy gave a speech in Australia calling on the faithful to recognize that the Church’s “unity, holiness, catholicity and apostolicity” were under attack by the Church’s current leadership.
I think this priest is spot in in his assessment. Pope Francis intends to lead a divided church that he is creating in his own image and likeness. Yet, if he has to choose at some point which side he will serve, there seems to be little doubt which he favors as he has spoken out to often on his views.
It's worse than nonsense, because contradictions such as 'daring prudence' and 2+2=5 eviscerate the real meanings in the minds of many. If 2+2 can be 5, maybe some will conclude that 2+2 isn't 4.
The four marks of the Church are that it is one, holy, catholic, and apostolic. The Church Is One Just as God is one in the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, so also is the Church one. The founder of the Church is Jesus Christ, who brought us back to God and made us into the family of God. The Church is one in the Holy Spirit, who dwells in those who believe. The Church Is Holy The Church is holy because the Church lives in union with Jesus Christ, the source of holiness. Through the Holy Spirit the Church leads others to holiness. The holiness of the Church is seen in the love that the members of the Church have toward one another and the many sacrifices they make for the sake of the world. The Church Is Catholic Catholic means “universal.” The Church is universal in two ways. First, the Church is catholic because all baptized people are part of the Church and the Church possesses the means of salvation. Second, the mission of the Church is universal because the Church has been sent to proclaim Christ to the entire human race. The Church Is Apostolic The Church traces its tradition directly from the apostles; therefore, the Church is considered apostolic. With the Holy Spirit the Church preserves and continues the teaching of the apostles. The pope and bishops are the successors of the apostles. What is truth? 13 Q. How can the Church of Jesus Christ be distinguished from the numerous societies or sects founded by men, and calling themselves Christian? A. From the numerous societies or sects founded by men and calling themselves Christian, the Church of Jesus Christ is easily distinguished by four marks: She is One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic. 14 Q. Why is the Church called One? A. The true Church is called One, because her children of all ages and places are united together in the same faith, in the same worship, in the same law; and in participation of the same Sacraments, under the same visible Head, the Roman Pontiff. 15 Q. Can there not be several Churches? A. No, there cannot be more than one Church; for as there is but one God, one Faith and one Baptism, there is and can be but one true Church. 16 Q. But are not the faithful of a whole Nation or Diocese also called a Church? A. The faithful of a whole Nation or Diocese are also called a Church, but they ever remain mere parts of the Universal Church and form but one Church with her. 17 Q. Why is the true Church called Holy? A. The true church is called Holy because holy is her Invisible Head, Jesus Christ; holy are many of her members; holy are her faith, her laws, her Sacraments; and outside of her there is not and cannot be true holiness. 18 Q. Why is the Church called Catholic? A. The true Church is called Catholic, or Universal, because she embraces the faithful of all times, of all places, of all ages and conditions; and all peoples are called to belong to her. 19 Q. Why is the Church also called Apostolic? A. The true Church is also called Apostolic because she goes back without a break to the Apostles; because she believes and teaches all that the Apostles believed and taught; and because she is guided and governed by their lawful successors. Yeah, it's different when it comes to these guys.
Remember the time is greater than space nonensense? I've stopped trying to understand this Pontificate. I have put the 'ignore' button on for my own sanity
Wow! Thirteen million missing. Enter Cardinal O'Malley, who as usual, is pressed into service when they are in crisis mode; he'll fix it. Unreal.
You keep trying to cast aspersions on St. JohnPaulII and PEB by lumping them with what has just taken place in Rome. You keep lifting photos out of context. Why? It’s truly not edifying. If you have some information to share that we might not be aware of, then do it. But it can’t be holy to keep smearing past Popes unless you can tell us where these photos came from and exactly what moment in time they came from and if they may have been photoshopped. And do you have a valid reason for doing this? Ecumenism is a far cry from a pagan ritual and I object to your consistent slamming of past Popes. We will all have to account for our actions one day. Most people on this forum are aware that the Church is not the same as it was. There are many reasons factored into that, of which you are well aware. Some of us are old enough to have lived through all sorts of these changes. It’s wonderful that you are a recent convert. Thank the previous Popes for that, and the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church, founded by Christ Himself.
HH, I would also like to know what the context of these photos are of Saint Pope John Paul II and Pope Benedict. In addition, I think what we are witnessing in regard to the way that Pope Francis is dialoging with the indigenous peoples of the Amazon is very different to what his two predecessors have done unless, of course, Don can further explain what he is referring to. From scripture we know that Jesus, of course, met with non-believers: Matthew 8 (DRA) 5 And when he had entered into Capharnaum, there came to him a centurion, beseeching him, 6 And saying, Lord, my servant lieth at home sick of the palsy, and is grieviously tormented. 7 And Jesus saith to him: I will come and heal him. We need to be very careful that we don't let what is occurring to divide us further Don. I think that we should continue to focus on the goals of the Pan-Amazonian synod, the goals of Pope Francis and not try and cloud the situation by dragging past popes into the current situation. Pope Francis tries to do this to justify his actions at times but he almost always misses the mark imho.
If your Mother was on Life Support you wouldn't leave her bed. In Rome Your Mother the Church is dying. Don't give up on the poor old gal.
