If there's any accuracy at all to what Taylor Marshall and Timothy Gordon say in this video, it looks like things in the Church are going to get a whole lot worse before they get better. The discussion left me wondering how old is the monk who wrote In Sinu Jesu. Their discussions tend to ramble on a bit but they can be interesting and informative. Marshall believes that Cardinal Turkson is the chosen heir apparent to Pope Francis. I'm inclined to think that it's a toss-up between Turkson and Tagle. The start of the video is about the new Cardinals appointed by Pope Francis. Basically, short of making Fr. James Martin a Cardinal, he couldn't have made worse choices but that was predictable. The only trustworthy one among them seems to be the Bishop who was persecuted by Communists and he's a Bishop Emeritus too old to vote in a Conclave. Then they go on to discuss Pope Benedict's resignation, whether Francis is a valid Pope and their disenchantment with Pope Benedict. The last part of the discussion was most interesting to me. It seems that they had a discussion about Bishop Barron's statement about Hell being empty and shortly after that the Bishop issued some kind of statement presumably in an attempt to refute any suggestion that he's a Universalist. Apparently, whatever way the Bishop's statement was worded confirms that he does hold Universalist beliefs and contradicts both St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas. Marshall also thinks that all of the Fatima third secret may not have been retained by the Vatican - that some or all of the document may have been destroyed. Here's the video:
I love listening to Tim and Taylor but Re the third secret of Fatima being destroyed, this is the first time I have heard such a theory posited, in the 3 decades that I have studied Fatima. I just find that really hard to take and I refuse to believe it. Ottaviani said: " The secret then arrived at the Congregation—always closed—and given to John XXIII. The Pope opened the envelope and read it. Although the text is written in Portuguese, the Pope subsequently told me that he had understood it entirely. Then he himself put the secret in another envelope, sealed it, and put it in one of those archives which are like a deep well, black, black, to the bottom of which the papers fall and people see nothing. It is therefore difficult to say where the “secret of Fátima” is now to be found.' ....Our Lady will not let it be lost.... And it still remains indelibly imprinted in the minds of those who have read it....
Arguably, she didn´t - according to Cardinal Ratzinger she repeated it at Akita. And Akita speaks clearly of a SPIRITUAL chastisemens (Satan will enter the Vatican, bishop against bishop, apostasy etc.) AND A MATERIAL chastisement (fire will fall from the sky wiping out a great portion of mankind, survivors will envy the dead etc.). This is in line with what Malachi Martin repeatedly stated: a spiritual AND a material chastisement. The spiritual chastisement I believe is unfolding as we speak (but will probably get worse); the material will come later. But the Vatican ALSO tried to bury Akita and persecuted Sister Agnes kicking her out of her monastery. They now say the message of Akita is irrelevant for our times. Check out the video below, if you haven´t.
Here´s a good article on the Fatima - Akita connection: http://www.ncregister.com/blog/jose...-our-lady-gave-dire-warnings-on-todays-crisis
I don't believe it is going to matter. God will not be mocked. God is in the process of cleaning house in his church and in his world. It isn't going to matter how many Cardinals Pope Francis puts into play, as God has a bigger plan than PF. All of this obvious 'stacking the deck' will fall like a deck of cards soon. The church and the world are in for a purification that has not been seen since the great flood. This time by by fire.
"Church in exit" seems the appropriate term (noticed it quoted in one of the previous posts). God help us.
Cannot face into his own sins.....hopefully the Warning will force this recognition and result in true repentance....in all who experience it....unless hearts are THAT hardened. Ex-Cardinal McCarrick: ‘I’m Not as Bad as They Paint Me’ Former cardinal Theodore McCarrick continues to maintain his innocence in the first interview he has given since being sentenced by the Vatican last July to a life of “prayer and penance.” Ruth Graham traveled to Victoria, Kansas, in August to interview McCarrick, who was subsequently found guilty of sexual abuse by a Vatican tribunal and reduced to the lay state last February. In the interview, published Tuesday in Slate, McCarrick suggests he was taken down under trumped-up charges by powerful enemies. Asked whether the different accusations of homosexual abuse were true, McCarrick denied them, employing a curious turn of phrase. “I’m not as bad as they paint me,” he said. “I do not believe that I did the things that they accused me of.” The denial was reminiscent of an earlier statement released by the cardinal in June 2018. “While I have absolutely no recollection of this reported abuse, and believe in my innocence,” his statement said at the time, “I am sorry for the pain the person who brought the charges has gone through, as well as for the scandal such charges cause our people.” Asked by Ms. Graham whether saying he didn’t “believe” he had done those things left the question of his guilt as an open question, he said it did not. McCarrick wanted to comment specifically on accusations by James Grein that McCarrick had repeatedly abused him over many years beginning when Grein was a boy of 11, including having groped Grein while hearing his confession. “The thing about the confession, it’s a horrible thing,” he said. “I was a priest for 60 years, and I would never have done anything like that. … That was horrible, to take the holy sacrament and to make it a sinful thing.” Asked about allegations from former seminarians that McCarrick had invited them to his New Jersey beach house, always choosing one of them to sleep in a double bed with him, McCarrick said that his “enemies” had put the accusers up to this. “I think that they were encouraged to do that,” McCarrick said. “There were many who were in that situation who never had any problems like that.” Vatican whistleblower Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò, a former Vatican nuncio to the United States, released a bombshell report in late August 2018 claiming that Pope Francis was well aware of McCarrick’s misdeeds but had rehabilitated him to a position of influence in the Vatican. In his report, Viganò said that many in the Church were aware that McCarrick was an abuser. “He was talking as a representative of the far right, I think,” McCarrick said of Viganò. “I don’t want to say he’s a liar, but I think some of the bishops have said that he was not telling the truth.” https://www.breitbart.com/faith/2019/09/04/ex-cardinal-mccarrick-im-not-as-bad-as-they-paint-me/
Hard to know what to expect. God doesn't work to our schedule. According to In Sinu Jesu, we can expect priests to become very holy with graces similar to Apostolic times. I haven't finished the book because I re-read passages rather than reading it straight through to the end. There's nothing in what I've read so far to say that it will happen all of a sudden or preceded by some major turmoil. It seems to be connected more to lukewarmness in the priesthood and the sexual abuse. It also seems to be heralding a gradual change, spreading throughout the priesthood possibly slowly at first and then picking up pace. Maybe I'm misunderstanding it but, as I've said, I haven't read it to the end.
Marshall and Taylor made the point that Pope Benedict could be the last person alive who has read and/or knows all the details surrounding the Third Secret. I would have to go back to the Infiltration book to be clear on what he meant by "3 (b)". I read the book and thought it was ok but it had very little that was new to anyone who has been paying attention. It isn't a bad book and didn't deserve the dissing it got from people who seem to have misunderstood (perhaps deliberately) that its targeted readership were as much the pew sitters as the "intelligentsia". Neither is it a great book but it is worth reading for the average Catholic wondering how the Church is in such disarray and what could have brought us to this stage. I simply can't find it in myself to believe that Pope John Paul would have deliberately misrepresented the Blessed Mother or misled the faithful. I'm more inclined to believe that if anything was withheld it was what Our Lady meant about Lucy having been given to understand about the meaning of the secret. Perhaps that meaning wasn't meant for us or it was left to the Pope's discretion whether or when to relay that meaning to us. I'm reminded of the prayer in the Total Consecration where we pray for the knowledge we need. I interpret that to mean just enough knowledge to lead us to heaven - knowledge appropriate to our station in life. Our first parents fell because they wanted to know what God had told them not to try to find out and Satan led them to believe that it was knowledge they were entitled to.
Read message on January 29, 2009 and you will see where our Lord talks about the purification underway will restore everything through Mary.
I've just read it and see nothing there about cataclysmic events. Isn't the purification happening through the exposure of the abusers? And, as in OT days when God's people disobeyed or abandoned Him, sometimes it was suffering at the hands of heathens that brought them back into line. Isn't that happening now with prosecutions in secular courts? What I see is Jesus saying that priests need to consecrate themselves to Him through Mary. He also says: "By consecration, I mean more than a simple act of devotion by which a person or group or nation is entrusted to My Mother's love; I mean a clear recognition of her role in My work of salvation and, then, a deliberate and conscious surrender to that role in all its implications." I don't see the Fatima or Akita messages there. It's about the Church making a dogmatic declaration on Mary as Co-Redemptrix/Mediatrix of All Graces. The declaration and definition of the Fifth Marian Dogma. Strange that you should have pointed me to that page today. Right from the beginning of In Sinu Jesu, Mary is given her title of Mediatrix. And every time I see it, I think of Joe Crozier. Joe was such a supporter of the Fifth Marian Dogma that I can't think of it or see it written without thinking of him. I hope that all is well with Joe. Nobody will be more overjoyed than him when a Pope finally makes the declaration, and it looks like it could happen in our lifetime (although we might have to sit it out through a couple more Popes first and Joe might not agree with me on that).
Division division.... Pope Francis to journalist: ‘I am honored that the Americans attack me.’ In an informal exchange aboard the papal plane, Pope Francis told Nicolas Senèze that he is “honored that the Americans attack me” when the French Catholic journalist presented him with a copy of his book How America Wants to Change the Pope (Comment L'Amérique veut changer de Pape) on the flight from Rome to Maputo, Mozambique, on Sept. 4. The book describes how a wealthy and often traditionalist sector of the American Catholic church—both clerical and lay—attacks Pope Francis and notes that it is already working, with projects such as the “Red Hat Report,” to ensure that the cardinal elected pope at the next conclave is to its liking. It was clear from the context that Pope Francis was referring specifically to that sector of the U.S. church that is mentioned in the book and not to anyone else. Francis thanked Mr. Senèze, a journalist for the French Catholic daily, La Croix, for the book and told him that he had read an article about it in the Rome daily, Il Messaggero. The pope said he had tried to get a copy of it, but it was not yet available for sale. He then handed the book to an aide and commented with a smile, “This is a bomb!” Shortly after, Vatican spokesperson Matteo Bruni told journalists that “in an informal context, the pope wished to say that he always considers criticisms as an honor, particularly when they come from authoritative thinkers, and in this case from an important nation.” The pope’s comments indicate he remains aware of the attacks against him from Catholics who disagree with his magisterial teaching and his statements on the economy, climate change, the death penalty, divorced and remarried persons and L.G.B.T. Catholics, as well as efforts by some traditionalist U.S. Catholics to delegitimize his teaching and undermine his pontificate. Mr. Senèze’s book details the opposition to Pope Francis—which Senèze says comes from “a small minority”—including Cardinal Raymond Burke, Archbishop Charles Chaput and Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò (the former papal nuncio to the United States), as well as from wealthy lay people like Tim Busch and some U.S. Catholic authors like George Weigel,together with a sector of the U.S. Catholic media. https://www.americamagazine.org/fai...s-journalist-i-am-honored-americans-attack-me
Do as I say...not as I do... Sometimes, when you take yourself seriously you'll be seriously taken! Pope Francis Says Climate in “State of Emergency” – Tells World to “Adopt Simpler Lifestyle” and “Abandon” Fossil Fuels — Then He Flies Off to Africa Red Francis lectured the world again on global warming junk science on the World Day of Prayer for the Care of Creation. The commie pope lectured humans to get off of fossil fuels and adopt a simpler lifestyle. Then he got on his papal jet and flew to Africa. Pope Francis arrives Maputo, Mozambique #Africa …the star of his Apostolic Journey… pic.twitter.com/JU5l8vjhox — Tulio (@Tulio98817827) September 4, 2019 Liefesite News reported: "Pope Francis has called upon the world to give up fossil fuels, claiming that the climate is in a state of “emergency” and that this has been caused by human activity. In his Message for the World Day of Prayer for the Care of Creation, an ecumenical celebration held on September 1, the Argentine pontiff encouraged the world to adopt “simpler lifestyles” and to abandon fossil fuels. “Now is the time to abandon our dependence on fossil fuels and move, quickly and decisively, towards forms of clean energy and a sustainable and circular economy,” he said. Then he got on his Vatican jet and flew to Africa. https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...don-fossil-fuels-then-he-flies-off-to-africa/
Yet not a word on the killing of the unborn babies by the millions per year, rampant sodomy, empty pews, rejection of the 10 c0mmandments by the overwhelming number of the baptized. But oh.......oh..... lets bow down to the globalists agenda to the sins of this world, such as fossil fuel and global warming . Not a word about the crisis of the ordained under his 'leadership'. Its as if he wants to lead the globalist agenda and not Christ's. Salvation via the 'earth first' while rejecting the 'rigid teachings of God's law's. The purification grows ever closer for the world.
Five take-aways from a Labor Day crop of new Princes of the Church https://cruxnow.com/news-analysis/2...-labor-day-crop-of-new-princes-of-the-church/
Re: what has been permitted to go out to the public via the authorities of the Church about Fatima.....details are missing, that is, the particulars that would paint the material picture of what is to come due to not complying with the orders from heaven. Remember, Lucy was told to give "them" what they want but not the interpretation of those big scenes since they really showed no interest as in the person of Cardinal Bertone. Interesting: Fr. Michel de la Sainte Trinité hypothesized (based on public and/or published statements of those who knew something of the content of the secret – including, of course, Lucia herself), that the Third Secret of Fatima was something like the following: "While ‘in Portugal the dogma of the faith will always be preserved,’ in many nations, perhaps in almost the entire world, the faith will be lost. The pastors of the Church will fail gravely in the duties to their office. Because of their fault, consecrated souls and the faithful will allow themselves to be seduced in great numbers due to ruinous errors spread everywhere. This will be the time of the definitive combat between the Virgin and the demon. A wave of diabolical disorientation will sweep the world. Satan will infiltrate even the highest summits of the Church. Evil spirits will blind and harden the hearts of the pastors. Then God will leave them abandoned to themselves in punishment for their refusal to obey the requests of the Immaculate Heart of Mary. This will be the great apostasy announced for the last times, the ‘false lamb,’ ‘false prophet,’ who betrays the Church for the benefit of the ‘beast’ according to the prophecy of the Apocalypse. Perhaps the Secret announces also one or another of the prophesied chastisements from Scripture pertaining to the ‘last times’? Perhaps it evokes the persecution the Holy Father will have to suffer when he ‘will return’ in order to ‘confirm his brethren’ and finally obey Our Lady’s requests. [10] ..... Indeed, in terms of apocalyptic content, Fr. Michel’s “hypothetical version” of the Third Secret of Fatima is in substance the same as the official version [13], released in 2000, with which most people are now familiar, except for the fact that the “official version” includes only a description of the “symbolic vision,” containing no words of explanation or interpretation from either Lucia or the Blessed Virgin Mary. Clearly, this symbolic vision is an authentic part of the Third Secret, though “Fatimists” would argue that it may not be all of it. That this vision is part of the secret was already confirmed by Lucia in her third memoir – which, as we learned above, was written in 1941 – in which she relates the following vision of St. Jacinta: "Another time we went to the Lapa do Cabeço. Once there, we prostrated ourselves on the ground and said the angel’s prayers. Later Jacinta got up and called me, “Don’t you see many highways, so many roads and fields full of dead people trickling blood? So many people weeping with hunger, for they have nothing to eat? And the Holy Father praying in a church before the Immaculate Heart of Mary? And many people praying with him?” A few days later she asked, “Can I say that I saw the Holy Father and all those people? “No. Don’t you see that this is part of the secret? That way it will be discovered immediately.” “All right. I won’t say anything then.” [14] Despite accusations leveled by critics of the so-called “Fatimist network of conspiracy theorists” [15], it is hard to understand what is particularly more sensational about Fr. Michel’s version of the Third Secret as compared to the “official” version released in 2000, which, incidentally, no pope or cardinal has ever claimed was everything Lucia personally claimed that Our Lady revealed to Francisco, Jacinta, and herself, but rather only what the Church officially stipulatedthat Our Lady revealed to the children [16]. Indeed, the only point of substantial difference between the two “versions” of the Third Secret of Fatima is the part about Satan “infiltrating even the highest summits of the Church,” which is hardly sensational, and which in any case has been sadly confirmed throughout the history of the Church as a sober fact. Regardless of whether or not any further elaborations on the “symbolic vision” of the Third Secret, attributable either to the Blessed Virgin Mary or to Lucia’s private interpretation, were ever in the possession of Church authorities at any level of the Magisterium, the undeniable fact remains that the “hypothetical” version of the Third Secret of Fatima contains no more and no less than the message Our Lady repeated to Sr. Agnes Sasagawa, in Akita, Japan, which is fully approved by the Church and therefore has a canonical status “equal” to that of Fatima, on October 13, 1973, exactly 56 years after the last message of Fatima and the Miracle of the Sun. It will be a punishment greater than the deluge, such as one has never seen before. Fire will fall from the sky and will wipe out a great part of humanity, the good as well as the bad, sparing neither priests nor faithful. The survivors will find themselves so desolate that they will envy the dead. The only arms which will remain for you will be the Rosary and the Sign left by My Son. Each day recite the prayers of the Rosary. With the Rosary, pray for the pope, the bishops and priests. The work of the devil will infiltrate even into the Church in such a way that one will see cardinals opposing cardinals, bishops against bishops. The priests who venerate me will be scorned and opposed by their confreres … churches and altars sacked; the Church will be full of those who accept compromises and the demon will press many priests and consecrated souls to leave the service of the Lord. The demon will be especially implacable against souls consecrated to God. The thought of the loss of so many souls is the cause of my sadness. If sins increase in number and gravity, there will be no longer pardon for them. [17] The upshot of this is, of course, that while Lucia had to observe complete silence after 1960 regarding the Third Secret of Fatima, in obedience to the authority of the Church’s Magisterium, Our Lady did not. https://onepeterfive.com/lucia-fatima-infamous-third-secret/ All this is unfolding in our time....too bad that the faithful (and the world for that matter) wasn't given such fuller details that could have alerted them beforehand to the present moment. Instead we find so many actually making excuses for this takeover of the Church as if nothing that important to the Faith is taking place making the predicted punishments now inevitable....to whatever extent prayer hasn't mitigated.
I think it's pretty clear now that Pope Francis doesn't believe that abortion is an intrinsic evil. Yes, he has said it is a sin but he has shown by his actions that he believes it to be a venial sin at worst. Someone who believes abortion to be intrinsically evil wouldn't elevate an abortionist and abortion advocate as a role model. Neither would he raise to the level of Cardinal a bishop who wrote the introduction to a book authored by a nun who promotes abortion and "rainbow" issues. That's a clear example of a Pope talking the talk but not walking the walk. Meanwhile, it will be interesting to see his reaction to this latest example that the Bishops in Germany are ready to cut off the life support of the few faithful Catholics in that God-forsaken country: http://www.ncregister.com/daily-new...g-forward-with-controversial-synodal-assembly My guess is that he will issue some gobbledegook statement which means absolutely nothing and behind the scenes there will be a phone call to Cardinal Marx saying something like "That'll cost you more than €70 million because now I'm going to have to make a statement that looks like I don't approve. Round it up to €100 million and I'll add a paragraph to the post-Synod document that covers we-won't-call-it-marriage ceremonies for your gay priests."
