sponsa, Yes, Sister Agnes is still living and in the video above which Blizzard posted Michael Matt confirms that she is still alive and he states that she is living in Tokyo now. The video is very good, if you have not watched it yet you should. It will bring you up to date on what is occurring at Akita now also. *** I just want to mention that I think that there are a lot of similarities between the prophecies of Our Lady of Akita and the Chastisement prophesized by Our Lady of Garabandal. http://www.1260.org/Mary/Text/Text_Hanratty_Garabandal_The_Chastisement_en.htm
Hi Carol, I just read the link you posted to Hanratty, thanks. He seems to think that the Chastisement spoken of at Garabandal is generally thought to be the 3 days of Darkness. Would you agree with that?
Lumena, I have to admit that I don't really think about the Chastisement much anymore but I would say that I think that it is possible that it is what some people and a few seers refer to as Three Days of Darkness or 72 hours of darkness, etc. I know that Desmond Birch places the Three Days of Darkness before the period of peace. If it turns out that he is correct about that then it makes sense imo that it is the Chastisement. From studying the various prophecies which are connected to the Three Days of Darkness, Desmond Birch has also stated that it consists of both man-made events and a divine event. So, also thinking about that it might be that when the entire humankind does not convert as a result of the Warning and the Miracle and war breaks out God will then send the Chastisement to us. Like I said, I don't really think about the Chastisement very much anymore, therefore, these thoughts are just off the top of my head. Maybe... Matthew 24:22 (DRA) And unless those days had been shortened, no flesh should be saved: but for the sake of the elect those days shall be shortened
Thank you Carol. Do you mind my asking, what do you think changed you so that you no longer think about it much ? I guess I think about it quite frequently because I feel that the Third Secret was about the Chastisement. And also due to the new revelation in the book, "A Pathway Under the Gaze of Mary", in which Sister Lucia had recorded a vision of the oceans exceeding their bounds, and awful scenes of houses and people being swallowed up by the waters, etc.
Didn’t Pope Benedict say that the message of Akita is essentially that of the third secret of Fatima? That’s what I remember.....? No wonder they are trying to silence the Akita message....just as they have the third secret of Fatima.
Lumena, At one point, I was trying to figure out every detail of everything that I read and thankfully I realized that I will never be able to do that. In addition, I decided to focus on praying more. I think that we all have different interests regarding prophecies but I was trying to understand way too much. I will also add that after reading Marie-Julie Jahenny's prophecies and realizing the complexity of everything that she was told I guess I threw my hands up in the air a little bit too. Speaking of Marie-Julie Jahenny she also mentions 2 days of darkness in addition to 3 days of darkness. So, although I think that it makes sense that the Chastisement comes before the period of peace and it could be the three days of darkness, I do think that there will a period of darkness when the Antichrist and his followers are destroyed also. So, it is a little confusing to say the least. It is important to think about the Chastisement in respect to understanding the severity of the prophecies and to continue to focus on what God wants from us. *** Edited to add: I just want to add that I think that the Chastisement cannot be the destruction of the Antichrist and his followers because we were told that the former is conditional and the latter is not because it is in scripture. That is why I believe that if the Chastisement does happen it will be before the period of peace because I do agree with Desmond Birch's general sequence of events: minor chastisement, period of peace, the time of the AC and then the last four things. I know that others here do not and that of course is their prerogative.
Yes, Carol, it is maddening and confusing trying to work it all out. We have the comments of Pope John Paul II at Fulda, they seem to tie in with the new revelation of Sister Lucia, in "Pathway", then we have Cardinal Ratzinger apparently saying that the message of Akita is essentially the message of Fatima. For myself, I have found that my life changed dramatically when I fist heard the message of Fatima. I was, I think, about 35 years old at the time and I was just so shocked that I had not heard about it as I had been a cradle Catholic. Growing up, I had only heard of the name "Fatima" but nothing more. The next thing that happened to me was that I read a book called "Three Days Darkness", by Albert J. Herbert. https://www.amazon.com/Three-Days-Darkness-Prophecies-Saints/dp/B000710RZA And from then on, I never was able to forget it. But I'm glad for the Divine heads up!
I can see where the author is coming from. When I went to Akita, we weren't proactively shown the cotton buds with the tears. One has to ask for it. I don't see this as a big problem though. The shrine is in a very remote spot, it is not actually in Akita itself but in the countryside. The author should remember this is a convent. There was no greeting committee for us of course, nor did we expect a greeting committee or singing and dancing nuns or a firework or such, one nun greeted us as she was expecting us. I think this is totally fine. The sisters live a very very quiet and removed life. Unlikely someone would just drop in from the street. It is so remote, one has to look for the place. The place was so quiet and we were the only visitors at one time, I was constantly worried my young family would disturb the nuns. I don't think I've ever been in a public building that was so extremely silent, one could hear only the soft wind outside. I could hear my familys footsteps all through the building even though these were just normal footsteps. At night, there was absolutely no sound, just the gentle wind outside. It was serene. I enjoyed it. The peace of the place. The huge garden. I even got my wife to do stations of the cross with me, this is rare and I attribute it to the holiness of the place. I think the garden even had a warning sign of wild bears that live in the area and apparently sometimes drop by to do stations of the cross or the like. So I think the style of the video struck me as a bit out of place, the way the author was approaching the convent. The nuns obviously want silence and remoteness otherwise they wouldn't live there. That said, I can see what the author is trying to say, that the message of Akita is not exactly promulgated, I understand that point perfectly. There was no mention or photo of Sister Agnes or the apparitions anywhere in the convent as far as I could see. The statue of Our Lady is not in the main chapel but in a side chapel and there is no sign explaining its significance. The nuns were lovely and friendly, they hardly talked though. We only saw them at Mass, otherwise we were mainly dealing with one nun. I had the impression the Handmaids are very contemplative and prefer much silence. Overall, I remember our 2017 visit to Akita and the nuns with fondness.
Same here! As devout as my grandma M was, I was surprised she never mentioned anything about this. I started seriously looking into these things in the last few years. Wowza were my eyes opened! You can't ignore that kind of information. I also find it thrilling and sooo reassuring in light of everything I see and hear!! I also learned the prayer of St Michael in the last few years.
So, Irishguy, we have established: That Russia certainly did exist prior to Our Lady mentioning the country during the apparitions. Now, as to the reference in Father De Marchi's book to Ti Marto (father of Jacinta and Francisco) dying an atheist, I can find no such assertion in the book, he seems to have been one of the visionaries' main supporters. So that's two of your six 'facts' answered. I don't propose to respond on the others but would appeal to you not to spread clear misinformation that might affect the attitude of others to these apparitions which carry the seal of a foretold heavenly sign.
Not only did Russia exist but the mention of "Russia" by the seers is one more proof of the supernatural origin of the messages. When the apparitions occurred Russia was a backward country with little or no geopolitical significance. Only God, through His Divine messenger, would know that soon a violent Marxist uprising would occur that would change the course of history - the Bolshevik Revolution (October 1917 - the month when the last message was given!). And the three little poor, illiterate seers were so innocent and backward that when Our Lady mentioned "Russia" they thought she was referring to a bad lady from a neighboring village - they had never heard of a country named "Russia"!!! and yet they faithfully conveyed the words they heard from the beautiful Lady.
Exactly! That’s the first thing I thought of when Russia was mentioned. The children thought it was a person..a woman. They had no idea. They had no idea that it was a country. There is overwhelming evidence that Fatima was authentic! Even the atheist who witnessed it were convinced...as was reported in the secular newspaper at Fatima. Miracle at Fatima!
Of course the church is not promoting Akita and the messages of the apparition there, it is indeed the same foreboding message that has been given at multiple apparitions and one which some within the church would sterilize, bury, or create enough controversy and doubt over to sweep it neatly to the dustbins in peoples minds, cobwebs and relics of a mid evil and by humanities standards unenlightened church and people. Which is exactly what they have done and for good reason. In fact, it was the laity that saw this same thing happening long before Akita and Fatima at LaSalette. Deliberate suppression of the messages and muddying of the event and those involved afterward. This eventually led to virtual violent uprisings and disobedience by the laity in the many apparitions which appeared increasingly in Europe around the time of WWII and were in hindsight unsurprisingly condemned by the bishops of that time. Remember, not only do modernists not believe in supernatural things which they always have a ready and overtly convoluted explanation for, they also work incredibly hard to cover them up when they foretell what is by their modernist designs. It was Fatima which in some way was a watershed moment. Afterward many worked very hard to muddy the waters of the messages given there and cover up entirely the warning by Our Lady of Fatima even going so far as to attempt to pass off the notion that the shooting of Pope JP II was the fulfillment of the vision. Balderdash. A message which should have been released in 1960 when it would be clear as Sister Lucia relayed. What would this message have meant to anyone in 1960? What was it that was so controversial that was revealed in 2000 but was meant for 1960? Nothing. So then why sit on this warning if it was revealed to be so uncontroversial for 40 years? Maybe this in 1960 would have caused a bit of a stir by Catholics. https://lasalettejourney.blogspot.com/2016/05/our-lady-warned-of-bad-council-and-bad.html https://onepeterfive.com/confirmation-father-dollingers-claim-cardinal-ratzinger-fatima/
Another fact that authenticises Fatima for me is that Our Lady is said to have predicted the Second World War as beginning in the reign of Pope Pius XIth. Pius died in February 1939, but truly the war began in late 1938, when Germany annexed the Sudetenland, or arguably earlier when Austria was absorbed. The official date of when the war began is merely a consensus by the allied historians and politicians, in whose interest it was to cover up the shame of the Munich Agreement. To me, Our Lady's prediction corresponds to the true beginning of the war. I am also quite convinced that the Third Secret, it's delay in publication (for whatever reasons), the attempted assassination of Saint Pope John Paul II, his miraculous survival, the not quite complete consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart, the extraordinary series of disasters in the Soviet Union (the Afghan campaign, that enormous crippling explosion in that port on the Northern coast and Chernobyl-as predicted in the Book of Revelation) and the incredible collapse of the Soviet Bloc in 1989-90 are not an unrelated series of events. Fatima and its prophecies are inextricably related to the events of the twentieth century, at least. Of course, all apparitions are at the discretion of each individual to believe or not. However, it is a bit unedifying to, on the one hand dismiss an officially-approved apparition supported by very, very many of the faithful, through lack of evidence convincing to oneself, but to yet claim in public for oneself the knowledge that this incident is satanically-sourced.
You are the first person on this forum, I think, DeGaulle, who has linked the Chernobyl disaster to Revelation. I heard that once on TV a few years back. No one actually agreed with me then. I believe it.
