Tusanami's East and West?

Discussion in 'The mystical and Paranormal' started by padraig, May 22, 2019.

  1. Frank Markus

    Frank Markus Archangels

    Funny, you opened with a similar line and I didn't even see your post yet.,happened on another thread with someone else. I am sure we are all more or less on target, although we may disagree on details.
     
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  2. Frank Markus

    Frank Markus Archangels

    This is an amazing idea. If it has a window, you can put candles inside and they will shine through the night.
     
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  3. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

    Frank, So, you are saying that we have to make two assumptions. The first one is that the Three Days of Darkness occurs before the period of peace and it will be literal. This is possible but let's say I'm a protestant what about this event is going to convince me to convert to Catholicism? I guess that you are saying that people will become informed about the prophecy of the Three Days of Darkness and then they will convert because it came to fruition. I don't believe that this would be enough because there are too many different interpretations of this prophecy and too many conflicting prophecies also. Unless you think that because of the Three Days of Darkness most of the enemies of the Church will die but this wouldn't be a conversion like that foretold by Saint Hidlegrad, a Doctor of the Church, along with many others.

    I look at the Miracle of the Sun and I wonder how many conversions occurred because of the fruition of this prophecy, I don't believe that there were very many. In regard, to World War II I think that people were far more religious in the 1940's than they are now and it still did not cause mass conversions to Catholicism.

    I am not at all trying to convince you of the authenticity of Our Lady of Garabandal but it makes sense to me that this apparition could be the factor that converts many people to Catholicism. It is a prophecy that was foretold in the early 60's in a town which was 100% Catholic at that time and God will leave a permanent sign there at the time of the Miracle to convince as many people as possible. Maybe God has some other plan that we don't know about but I don't think that people would be convinced to convert from the prophecies of Blessed Emmerich or Saint Bosco. As I stated, Medjugore is another possibility if the prophecy of a permanent sign occurs there also. I am not 100% convinced of it's authenticity at this time, I am simply uncertain. I think that any place where Our Lady has appeared is a possibility to help with conversion if God chooses to use those locations like Lourdes, Fatima, etc. but I do think that it helps that something was foretold in advance of it's occurrence because humankind always seems to find a way to explain away miracles in one way or another.

    I am only offering these ideas for reflection and I absolutely respect everyone's opinion on unapproved or even approved prophecies.

    I realize that there is a lot of confusion about Garabandal, this is true of many apparitions but I think that there are so many reasons to believe in this apparition one of the most convincing things is that Joey Lomangino died on June 18th the anniversary of the 2nd message of Our Lady there.

    Although, I do often wonder if the Warning will not be exactly as the seers have stated.

    Well, time will tell but I hope that we can continue this discussion and that others will join in also.

    Thanks everyone for your input.
     
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  4. One message of Our Lady through Father Gobbi says, “…the reunion of all Christians in the Catholic Church will coincide with the triumph of my Immaculate Heart in the world. This reunited Church, in the splendor of a new Pentecost, will have the power to renew all the people of the earth. The world will believe in Him whom the Father has sent, and will be completely renewed in His Spirit of Love.” Also in the message of October 16, 1991 the Virgin told Father Gobbi, “I confirm to you that, after the triumph of my Immaculate Heart, there will remain in these countries of yours, solely this one and only true Church.”
    The Blessed Mother told Pierina Gilli, “I invite all children of the church to prayer, penitence and expiation. If people listen to this invitation, the graces of the Lord and His unending mercy towards the church will let the Rosa Mystica blossom again. Montichiari will become the mountain from which the mystical light will radiate to the whole world. Yes, that will happen… But the most obvious miracle will be the return to the true faith, to the true love of the Lord. Then will follow: the reunion in faith of the different churches and peace for the whole world.”

    Father Gobbi was given words for the United States of America in a locution entitled Your Light Will Return when he visited the Basilica of the Immaculate Conception in Washington D.C. May 17, 1987. Our Lady told him, “The times of your suffering are now counted. Soon you will flower again, when my Immaculate Heart will have its triumph, and your light will return to shine with such intensity that it will draw all those who live in this great continent.”
    The final message given to Father Gobbi on December 31, 1997 says, in part, “…In the end my Immaculate Heart will triumph. This will come about in the greatest triumph of Jesus, who will bring into the world his glorious reign of love, of justice and of peace, and will make all things new. Open your hearts to hope. Throw open the doors to Christ who comes to you in glory. Live the trembling hour of this second Advent.”
    Mirjana Soldo is the person whose mission is to pray for 'unbelievers' As far back as 2011 or earlier, she started telling in interviews that there will be an upheaval of sorts and then everything will be put back in place better than before. She likened what would happen to someone doing spring cleaning. They move all the furniture and it looks terribly out of place and then every thing will be cleaned and put back in a very pleasing, orderly. arrangement.

    A very early book about Medjugorje written in English was a collaboration between Father Laurentin, a noted scholar of Marian apparitions and a Croatian theologian named Father Ljudevit Rupcic (both deceased). The book was published in 1984 and within it, are the answers the 6 young visionaries gave to a series of questions that were put to them about their apparitions. Although it doesn't say, I am assuming each person was interviewed separately and the interviews took place before December 1982 as the apparitions had been going on for 18 months. To the question 'Did Our Lady confide any secrets to you? They answered as follows: Marija: Yes, I know six secrets. The others know seven or eight. They have to do with us, the Church, people in general. Jakov: Yes. They have to do with our life and with people. Vicka: Yes. I have seven. The first secret has to do with the church at Medjugorje. It has to do as well with the sign, humanity in general, and each person. The secrets speak of the Church in general. There are some which concern us.
    Ivanka: Yes. I have seven. Some concern us personally, others, the Church and the world.
    Mirjana: Nine secrets were confided to me. They have to do with us ourselves, the sign, the whole world, and also Medjugorje.
    Ivan: Yes.
     
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  5. padraig

    padraig Powers

    There is a Grotto near my home and sometimes I light candles (it is in the Church grounds). They are good candles and last about 8 hours. I love to think that they attract people to the spot like moths to a light.

    Anyway I enjoy doing it. It is a very little thing but gives me a lot of pleasure.

    [​IMG]
     
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  6. AED

    AED Powers

    Oh Frank this explains everything!! I knew our Mother had to be involved in some key way. She is never outdone in generosity. Of course this is what happened. She who is full of grace began to shower out of the storehouse of grace in her Immaculate Heart all the Graces necessary to lead you to her Son and to the Church. This is a wonderful conversion story! Thank you for telling us.
     
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  7. AED

    AED Powers

    Aporopo to this discussion--especially on the third secret of Fatima video--this morning I got up and picked up my phone to go downstairs. In a loud volume the man on the video began to speak on the 3rd secret. My husband is not a believer and I was aghast that this was loud and clear. I COULDNT SHUT IT OFF. And I had no app or site open. I still had the security code. I opened into my phone and searched but there was NO link anywhere. And yet he kept talking. Finally I turned my phone completely off and that broke the mysterious link wherever it was. (I never found it) my husband said " what was that?" And I told him. He started humming twilight zone music. I mean try it was strange.
     
  8. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    :unsure::LOL::ROFLMAO:
     
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  9. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    They now make beautiful votive candles that use batteries and are safe from causing fires. I use them. Mine have pictures of Jesus, the Blessed Mother, and there are some with saints.
     
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  10. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Website
    Thesaintsgiftcollection.com
     
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  11. padraig

    padraig Powers

    St Teresa of Avila said the way you know a true grace is when it impresses yourself on your heart. When you remember it for a long time.

    I think its a bit like someone knocking your front door. The first time you might think you imagined it, but if the knocking continues you know for sure someone's there.

    Revelation 3:20
    Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with that person, and they with me.

     
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  12. Jo M

    Jo M Powers


    https://thesaintsgiftcollection.com
    Thank you for sharing this website, the candles are absolutely beautiful! I do have a weakness for candles, so I may need to add a 'saintly' candle to my ever growing collection. There's always room for one more. :rolleyes:
     
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  13. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    :D:LOL::love:
     
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  14. mb6752

    mb6752 Fiat Voluntas Tua

    Carol,

    God gave us the Catholic Church, His Church pure and whole and everything returns to God as He gave it. Perfect and Whole, this is why I believe the world will all be Catholic.

    Also in Revelation chapter 11. The Temple is the Catholic Church it is the second Temple of God. Those who do not return, or become Catholic will be trampled over.

    Catholic Study Bible

    Revelation 11:1-4

    1 * Then I was given a measuring rod like a staff, and I was told: "Rise and measure the temple of God and the altar and those who worship there,

    2 but do not measure the court outside the temple; leave that out, for it is given over to the nations, and they will trample over the holy city for forty-two months. *

    The other reason is in the Writings of Luisa Picarretta, The Book Of Heaven, Jesus tells her that the world will be Catholic. The first 3 countries to convert back to Catholicism will be Russia, Germany and England. Those were the first 3 that separated from the church.

    If you study the Book of Daniel chapter 9 the 70 weeks, and if you subtract 7 x 69 = 483 years. From 2017 - 483 = 1,564. That is the year England broke from Catholicism and became Anglican and Germany built their second Lutheran Church. The Temple of God, The Catholic Church, was “broke” 49 years after this, 1,583 the Council Of Trent was complete stating that Transubstantiation only happens in the Roman Catholic Church. Therefore the Roman Catholic Church is reformed.

    We are in the final 7 years of Daniels prophesy, making 2020 the year of the end of the daily sacrifice, which is the Catholic Church. Then the Antichrist, the time when the world will celebrate the absence of the Eucharist.

    So from 2017 there will be 3 and 1/2 years before the daily Sacrifice is removed, then the Resurrection of the Church but during the time that the world will have 3 1/2 years of evil. This happened after Jesus died on the cross. The Romans and Jews were killing the Christians. Then Jerusalem went to Rome, the new Temple, Rome will return to Jerusalem, the New Jerusalem (Sunday’s second reading).

    I’m very excited,

    Why 2017, the Virgo was in the sky as it was seen by Saint John Chapter 12 Revelation. Jupiter left the womb on September 23, 2017.

    1. August 21, 2017 - feast day of Our Lady of Knock - Total eclipse of the sun.
    2. September 23, 2017 - 33 days after the eclipse the Virgo was in the sky fully as depicted in chip 12 of Revelation. Check out www.romancatholicman.com Father Heilman describes the whole vision.
    3. September 30, 2017 - 7 days after the sign of the Virgo,is the feast day of the Arc Angels. Verse 7 of chip 12, Michael fights against the dragon and the dragon is thrown down. On September 23, Pope Francis allows the Bishops or gives the Bishops the authority over the Liturgy of the Mass. allowing Priests to only have to ask their Bishop if the Mass can be in Latin. But....you know in this country there is a big push to be ecumenical to the Protestants. Beware of when they change the words of the Liturgy of the Eucharist, Jesus will no longer be in the Eucharist unless the Priests do the 4 necessary steps of The Consecration.
    4. 40 days after September 23, 2017 is all Saints Day. Verse 13 of chapter 12, the dragon makes war on the saints those who keep the commandments of God and bear testimony to Jesus. 2016 - 2018 the U.S DOJ starts the RICO process on the Catholic Church in the USA.

    Look at Europe and it’s political and Religious upheaval right now, the Middle East, the locust, the red rivers, the plagues Of Moses is all over the news.

    We are in the final 7 years of the Daniel prophesy of 70 weeks.

    We were chosen to live during this time.
     
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  15. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    They flicker like a flame
    They take 2 AA batteries
    They have a timer setting, too
    I love mine
    I have St Jude
    Our Lady of perpetual help
    And Sacred Heart
     
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  16. Jo M

    Jo M Powers

    How wonderful, great choices! I am having a hard time deciding which candles to buy; I'll have to sleep on it.:sleep:
     
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  17. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I just bumped this to read this and pray over it. I keep letting things slip.
     
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  18. Dolours

    Dolours Guest

    I share your view of unapproved apparitions and for much the same reasons.

    Thank you for your summary of Emmerich's and Don Bosco's visions. It's a light in these darkening times when we are called more than ever to be prepared to give reason for the hope within us.

    I thank God for converts like you.
     
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  19. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    :LOL:
     
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  20. Dolours

    Dolours Guest

    Carol: Excuse me for cutting into your interchange with Frank, but I just wanted to make some points:

    1. The miracle of the sun strengthened the faithful in Portugal when that country had a very anti-Catholic Masonic government, and it served to make the Church authorities sit up and take notice rather than dismissing the children as ignorant, superstitious peasants or liars.

    2. Don't forget the Holy Spirit's role in conversions to the Faith.

    While I don't want to get into a debate about Garabandal, the fact that Joey died without regaining his eyesight serves more to prove that it wasn't Our Lady who appeared there, irrespective of the date of Joey's death.
     
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