The Vatican Has Fallen

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  1. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Bless poor Cardinal Mueller. He must thinkhe is in a nightmare, praying fro him and poor Pope Benedict. They must be in an awful state.
     
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  2. SgCatholic

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    Well, this is awkward!
    Ann BarnhardtMay 7, ARSH 2019
    https://www.barnhardt.biz/2019/05/07/well-this-is-awkward/

    Here is the cover of the new book of essays by Pope Benedict XVI being released in Italian. This is a collection, but a brand new collection, on the topic of love.

    Look at the signature.

    Benedictus PP XVI

    Not so much as a (meaningless) “emeritus” in sight.

    PP is the abbreviation of the Latin “Pontifex Pontificum“, Pontiff of pontiffs. As in, supreme.

    Once again, another visible piece of evidence to add to the Everest-sized mountain.

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  3. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

  4. lynnfiat

    lynnfiat Fiat Voluntas Tua

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  5. padraig

    padraig Powers

  6. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie

    Sorry if this was posted previously, but I haven’t seen it. If so, it’s worth reposting...imo....

     
  7. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    And heaven keeps its prophetic warnings coming to prepare us..........

    Pedro Regis recent messages

    4794 - Message of Our Lady Queen of Peace, in Goiânia / GO, April 30, 2019

    Dear children, courage. You are not alone. My Son Jesus is with you. Trust in Him, who sees what is hidden and knows you by name. You are living in a time of great spiritual confusion. The Holy Laws will be changed to please men. Wicked men will change the Sacred Scripture, but in the hearts of those who love the truth the Divine Light will never be extinguished. I suffer for what comes to you. Bend your knees in prayer. Seek strength in the Eucharist, for only thus can you remain faithful to the true Magisterium of the Church of My Jesus. Do not be discouraged. I love you and will pray to my Jesus for you. Do not be silent. The silence of the righteous strengthens the enemies of God. Be men and women of faith. After all sorrow, the Victory of God will occur. Onward in the defense of truth. This is the message I give you today in the name of the Most Holy Trinity. Thank you for having allowed Me to gather you here once more. I bless you, in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. Amen. Be at peace.


    4796 - Message of Our Lady Queen of Peace, in Rovereto / Italy, May 6, 2019

    Dear children, I am your Sorrowful Mother and I suffer for what comes to you. A wound will be opened in the heart of the Church, causing great suffering for men and women of faith. In the House of God the Sun will rise later and the setting of the Sun will be earlier. Lessons will be short and those who need teaching will not have it. Bend your knees in prayer. Open your hearts and be attentive. Do not stray from the truth. He who walks with the Lord will never experience the weight of defeat. I know each one of you by name and will pray to My Jesus for you. Do not forget: in your hands, the Holy Rosary and Sacred Scripture; in your hearts, the love of truth. Give me your hands, for I wish to lead you to My Son Jesus. Those who remain faithful to the end will receive the Reward of the Righteous. Do not retreat. You will be persecuted for the truth, but do not be discouraged. The Lord will be very close to you. The Great Vessel will split in half and My poor children will live moments of great afflictions. Courage. Whatever happens, listen to My Son Jesus and stay true to My Appeals. There is no victory without a cross. Onward. This is the message I give you today in the name of the Most Holy Trinity. Thank you for having allowed Me to gather you here once more. I bless you, in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. Amen. Be at peace.
     
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  8. padraig

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    'The Great Vessel will be split in half', is, of course the Church herself. I had always considered this very unlikely given the lack of momentum of the Bishops and Cardinals in opposing what is going on. I thought they'd put up with just about anything coming from the Vatican. However every dog has its day and I suppose even them might reach breaking point. If the very strong rumours about a female Deaconate are true (and sadly they might well be) I am afraid breaking point might be approaching.

    Jesus said that, 'Sufficient unto to the day is the trouble thereof'; not to worry too much about things that have not happened yet. But it does look like Schism is fast approaching.

    Sigh. We'll just have to take it as it comes, with prayer and Trust in God to guide us all. May Our Blessed Lady lead us.
     
  9. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    Catholicism per se is too tough, so market it as something else.
     
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  10. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    I am so comforted knowing God has given his Church two great gifts to strengthen and prepare ourselves for these terrible days ahead and entering into the era of peace. 1) Divine Mercy and 2) Living in the Divine Will. The first one prepares our soul by emptying it of sin and temporal punishment do to sin. The second one promises God's protection and predisposes us to enter into the Kingdom of the Divine Will where his will shall be done on earth as it is in heaven after the purification or finale, which is the 3 day's of darkness.
     
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  11. SgCatholic

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  12. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I don't know. He may be right, he may be wrong. I've heard him discuss this on his videos. Itmay be true; it may not. It's hard to accumulate real hard evidence about this by it's very nature.
     
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  13. SgCatholic

    SgCatholic Guest

    There is more than enough evidence available to us. These have been revealed by various people, including at least one saint.

    St Maximillan Kolbe
    https://haurietisaquas.me/2017/03/02/satan-must-reign-in-the-vatican-the-pope-will-be-his-slave/
    “Satan Must Reign in the Vatican The Pope Will be His Slave” St. Max. Kolbe Witnessed this Masonic Parade in 1917

    Bishop Fulton Sheen made Bella Dodd give testimony, which she did to the US House of Representatives, Committee on UnAmerican Activities
    https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinio...y-no-accident-but-a-strategy-to-destroy-churc

    Cardinal Luigi Ciappi
    His Eminence, one of the few persons who had seen the complete secret, wrote in a 1995 letter to Professor Baumgartner of Salzburg: “In the Third Secret it is predicted, among other things, that the great apostasy in the Church will begin at the top.”

    Alice von Hildebrand

    Documents in the Vatican archive

    The books 'AA 1025' and 'School of Darkness'

    The Masonic document 'The Permanent Instruction of the Alta Vendita"

    many more....
     
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  14. SgCatholic

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  15. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Well just to pick up on this a little bit. I'll take the situation in the USA and the evidence just a little bit. Alicegot her information from a lady who was a Comunist Party member who had supposedly infiltartrated hunderds of agents into Catholic seminaries before her conversion. Well the difficultyhere, as far as hard evidence is concerned, we are given no actual names. Given that the FBI were red hot against reds at that period, as well as the Vatican itself it seems strange given the numbers that no action was actually taken. I mean not one single arrest, no reocrds of surveillance? No one defrocked? Nothing?

    Also I recall a comment by a Stage Magician one time that intellectuals and scientists are the easiest people to fool. They tend to swallow things. Streetwise people tend tolook harder at things. Alice and her husband are intellectuals as is Talyor Marshall. They love general theories and hypothesises.

    But you have to hit hard tacks with such things. If people like the FBI in the USA or the Ministry of the Interior in Italy had gone after this and made arrests I would find it more convincing.

    As it is it is kinda up in the air. There is no way either would have let this lie if they thougt it for real...yet they appear to have done nothing?
     
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  16. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie


    I thank I’ll be getting this one!
     
  17. Praetorian

    Praetorian Powers

    The U.S. government would not have attacked the Catholic Church this way back in the 1950's. Secretly tap their phones? Maybe. A sweep of arrests? No way.

    I'm pretty sure the Vatican was infiltrated, but I don't think that those who have the proof will ever show it to us.
     
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  18. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie

    I think the Catholic Church got a pass because the optics and politics of it shielded them.
    Even in my diocese, the cops took a hand off policy on abusive priest molesting kids.
    When a priest got caught with a boy by a cop, instead of taking police action and making a arrest, they’d call the bishop to warn him. The bishop would then give the offending priest a heads up and warn him to not get caught.
    Police and politicians didn’t want to offend the catholic powers to be. If a candidate wanted elected, they had to kiss the bishops ring in more ways than one. This is not speculation...it’s the actual truth. It was a matter of public record during the priest abuse scandal years back.
    There was a time when you looked the other way regarding the Catholic Church.
     
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  19. SgCatholic

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    I think the difficulty was that the infiltration was also in the government.

    Previous Popes repeatedly condemned Modernism and declared that Freemason clergy would be excommunicated. That in itself strongly supports the notion that there was indeed infiltration of the Church.
     
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  20. Praetorian

    Praetorian Powers

    It's what Pope St. Pius X warned us about with many encyclicals and why he instituted the oath against Modernism for the clergy. He wouldn't have done all of that if it wasn't a problem.
     
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