I don't know about that. Yes I think we need to be charitable when the situation calls for it. Especially in regards to the Pope and bishops. Laity posting on fourms, twitter, etc. should be careful about not calling the epoiscopate names, deriding them, etc. BUT I think there is a place for emotionalism. Our Lady cries when she appears... Souls are being damned because of all of this garbage. God is angry... Yes emotions are a part of being human. Today I think we are too unemotional about a lot of this. We can talk about abortion, for example, without batting an eyelid. The love of many has grown cold... It reminds me of the post Brian linked once with the very emotional things saints were saying about heretics and apostates. You could virtually see the loathing and disgust in their eyes. Out of control emotions, no, but anger, sadness, outrage etc. yes
This pope has called pro-lifers “obsessed”. This is a rather emotional and Pejorative term that he used. That he used this term at all in describing the faithful who are trying to stop the murder of the unborn is beyond insulting. This pope has said that those couples who are having large families are like breeding rabbits! Rather a insulting description for good people who are not practicing birth control and are doing the “catholic thing” and are open to:life. But, I guess those big catholic families are using up earthly resources and contributing to his real cause, global climate change. Nope, can’t have that. But Pope Francis has nothing but glowing sentiments for one of Italy’s leading abortionist and radical leftist...no unkind words for that murderer....she fixing those breeding rabbits he so seems to loath.
P., Yes, Our Lady has often cried when she has appeared. You are absolutely correct about that. I probably should have been more specific because I was really was speaking of becoming angry with someone like Jimmy Akin. I think that we often look for people to blame in the time of a crisis and often our anger can be misplaced. I am also a little weary of expressing too much anger toward the pope because of certain prophecies. I hope this explains my comments about the pope regarding emotions. I do believe that there is at least one saint for each us who appeals to our nature, iow, there are different saints for each of us that we can personally relate to. Personally, I tend to retreat to prayer more than anything else lately. Thankfully.
We are being given a heads-up on what to expect.... Pro-LGBT German bishop: ‘Nothing will be the same’ in Church after Amazon Synod Dorothy Cummings McLean https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/p...will-be-the-same-in-church-after-amazon-synod German Bishop Franz-Josef Overbeck , , Fri May 3, 2019 - 8:04 pm EST amazonian synod, catholic, diocese of essen, franz-josef overbeck, german bishops conference, homosexuality, lgbt, pope francis ESSEN, Germany, May 3, 2019 (LifeSiteNews) – A pro-homosexual German bishop has predicted that sweeping changes to the Catholic Church regarding sexual morality, the male priesthood, and priestly celibacy will follow the next Vatican-run meeting of bishops planned for later this year. According to Katholische.de, the official website of the German Catholic Bishops, Bishop Franz-Josef Overbeck, the ordinary of Germany’s Essen diocese, told reporters that the October Synod in the Amazon will lead to a “break” in the Church and that “nothing will be the same as as it was.” Overbeck said the hierarchical structure of the Church, its sexual morality, and the general picture of what a priest is (“Priesterbild”) would be scrutinized, and the role of women in the Church would also be reconsidered. The bishop also related that the decline in the number of Catholic believers in Europe and Latin America would be discussed, along with “the immense exploitation” of the natural environment and violations of human rights. The Synod will take place October 6-27, and its primary themes are ecology, theology and pastoral care, the concerns of indigenous peoples, and human rights. According to Katholische.de, Overbeck said Francis, having a South American perspective, ensured “awareness of these challenges.” Slated for removal from the Church is her “Eurocentric structure,” Overbeck promised, saying the local churches in Latin America and their clergy would become increasingly independent. Meanwhile, reflecting on the priest shortage in both Europe and Latin America, the Bishop of Essen declared that the local churches are already mainly run by women religious. “The face of the local church is female,” Overbeck said. Katholische.de reported that the bishop had offered some statistics about the lessening of the influence of the Catholic Church in countries like Brazil: Catholics, who used to comprise 90 percent of the population, now total only 70 percent. Overbeck said the Church must address this and find answers. Apparently, it will do this in a “step by step” process over several synods. Although Overbeck didn’t mention the issue, the German Bishops’ website then suggested that the question of married priests will also be discussed. Bishop Overbeck is known for wanting to change Catholic teaching on homosexuality. In January, Katholische.de reported that Overbeck had, in an article for the Catholic journal Herder Korrespondenz, proposed a reassessment of homosexuality. Overbeck called for a “de-pathologization” of homosexuality that could lead to an “overdue liberation” for people with same-sex attractions. The Bishop fears that unless this is undertaken, there will be an “intellectual marginalization of the Catholic moral teaching.” One should be glad that, with the help of new scientific insights, “prejudices” concerning sexuality are being “overcome,” he wrote. Saying the German Bishops’ study on clerical sexual abuse had shown that neither heterosexual nor homosexual orientation “as such” was a factor, Overbeck argued that it was “absurd” for a bishop to deny homosexual men priestly ordination.
In other words, the bishop is telling us that the next rigged synod is a foregone conclusion, just like the last rigged synod and the rigged synod before that and the rigged synod before that. Why doesn't he go the whole hog and tell us that all the conclusions were arrived at by the wolves long before Pope Benedict fled from them. Honesty from our hierarchy would be a refreshing change but I suppose this is a step in that direction.
In an odd numbered year, correct? Just found this: The Warning will be brought about after The Church has been cruelly torn by "something like a schism." -From "Garabandal: The Village Speaks." Pages 350-351 (page 169 in pdf format)
I had another wee look at Amoris Laetitia briefly today & could not stomach it for more than a few pages -- Accompaniment, dialogue, concrete situations, fraternity, pastoral mercy, growth -- Here are just 3 'cracker' quotes from Amoris Laetitia' within a couple of pages - 2000 years of Christianity and our Pontiff comes up pithy, embarrassing tabloid phrases like this! 1. 'By thinking that everything is black and white, we sometimes close off the way of grace and of growth'. (what about our Lord's words let your yes be yes and your no be no. Or 'go and sin no more' - too black & white for AL??) 2, 'Young people who are baptized should be encouraged to understand that the sacrament of marriage can enrich their prospects of love'.( really that is the best you can come up with for prospective married couples!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) 3. Let us remember that “a small step, in the midst of great human limitations, can be more pleasing to God than a life which appears outwardly in order, but moves through the day without confronting great difficulties” (really!! Christ gave His All on the cross, shed his blood and asks us to 'take up your cross daily' to enter by the narrow path since the way of perdition is wide -) One might as well be a good humanist because all I see is secular humanism in this alleged Catholic document -- I say what I have to say in black and white -- I state it in good conscience. This is the worst encyclical in the history of the Church. Poorly written, poorly thought out, long-winded diatribe. Oh boy are we in trouble!! Please God a Pope will come along soon and consign AL to the dustbin of history and quickly.
Point 2 indicates a complete lack of understanding of 'love'. It seems to describe it as a random event, perhaps a consequence of some kind of 'Cupid's Arrow'. This is not 'love', but the romanticist notion of it, which is merely infatuation. Love, in the marital sense, is an act of the will, whereby one vows to put one's spouse, and the children that are the fruit of the marriage, before any other interest, no matter how difficult the circumstances. Often, the concrete situations become as far as one can imagine from the adolescent 'prospects' presented, the latter being a basis for marriage that has no hope of surviving the inevitable vicissitudes of marital fortune unless accompanied by a determined true type of love. By imagining this infatuation as what is consisted in love, it is impossible to resist the imposition of other kinds of romanticised quasi-love, which are really lusts, such as those claimed by casual parners, adulterers and perverts. AL is a document whose title and content is founded upon a bag of smoke-its subject is a phantasm.
Regarding people like Jimmy Akin, we must appreciate there is always space for diversity of opinion within the bounds of orthodoxy and, to my knowledge, Akin is impeccably orthodox. Otherwise, talk of freedom and conscience is a sham-we really would possess the rigidity of which Pope Francis has accused us. Fortunately, as Chesterton pointed out, Christianity is quite simple. There are only a few rules, but these must be kept. Beyond that, we have freedom to think and act as we see best (if one accepts and obeys those aforementioned rules, one will want the best). Chesterton, incidentally, also warned that the abandonment of the Ten Commandments would lead to their replacement by the 'ten thousand commandments', as good a description of political correctness doctrine as any. One has to have a great deal of sympathy for people like Akin. They find it hard to criticise (publicly, at any rate) the Pope...that used to be the very essence of a Catholic. It's a dilemma that we all here have faced and continue to face. For my own part, I also think that the letter has, perhaps with the best of intentions, exceeded the authority of its writers. More, I think PF rather too clever to be caught out with a statement of formal heresy. Even before the accusation of material heresy he has left a confusing ambiguity. My hope is that this cleverness of Pope Francis (and he does seem determined to protect his posterity to some degree) might also disrupt the plans of the likes of that homosexualist German bishop. In one of his least ambiguous moments, PF has made it very clear that he thinks homosexuals simply should not be allowed into seminaries. To now endorse the wildest dreams of the sodomites, he would have to very blatantly contradict himself. He has a long history of contradiction, but not so much one of contradicting himself. I will continue my feeble efforts of praying the Hail Mary's that he himself requested.
The current events in the Church are unprecedented in her entire 2,000 year history Carol. I am sure more people , including our Bishops, Cardinals and priests and also including our very best scholars and theologians are feeling more than a little lost and bewildered by it all. So goodness knows I don't think anyone could blame us ordinary lay folk for really struggling to make any sense of it all. I am sure the Good Lord looking down from heaven will have mercy on us in our confusion and cut us all a lot of slack if we get dizzied by it all. I know I often find myself floundering. I am more inclined to have a problem with people who are not confused. The people who appear to have the answers to everything. For instance the people who claim that there is nothing wrong with Pope Francis and the current Pontificate. I have no idea whatsoever how they might have come to such a conclusion with a Grace aided conscience such as all good Catholics are supposed to have. Its like someone telling me when a ten ton truck is barreling down the highway towards me at high speed and someone says it is not there. Well, they're not doing me or anyone else any big favour by saying so. I think the folks are right at EWTN to be uncomfortable and reluctant about people calling the Pope out publically to be a heretic. My own honest opinion is that only God can save us from the current appalling situation and that is what I fully believe He is about to do. I am convinced that events in the world are about to leapfrog over everything that is happening in the Church. I woke up very early this morning in the city walking the dogs. I have never heard it so quiet you could have heard a pin drop. It was so quiet I stopped and stared at the sky for the longest time. I had the strongest thing that everything around me was still waiting for something to happen. Yes, I do indeed believe something out there is coming towards us at high speed and that something will leave all we discuss here irrelevant. I believe events have caught up with us.
Correct - one could not come up with a more banal understanding of sacramental marriage than that quote from AL - Vows are made at an altar for a reason as true Christian love involves sacrifice. AL is littered with banal phrases that appear to have been taken from a sociology textbook.
I thought that the following might help lift us up at the moment. May God shed his grace upon these shepherds.+ *** Edited to add the following related article. Pope Benedict’s secretary: He who works to ‘invent new Church…abuses his spiritual authority’ Maike Hickson | Wed May 1, 2019 | https://www.lifesitenews.com/mobile...t-new-church...abuses-his-spiritual-authority
HH, You are very welcome! It is beautiful and hopeful to witness. *** May God continue to protect Bishop Anthanasius Schneidrer. https://gloria.tv/article/BuphAjY2TfWb3ECh3jjPufYto
One of the very Great Blessings in all this is that, through it all we get to encounter some very beautiful good and true Catholics out there , diamonds which we would never have found if this storm had not blown up in our face. To realise that we are very,very far from being alone , that the Good God has raised up and is raising up warriors and saints for the long, grim, struggle ahead. May God bless them all. Each and every one. Terra Tremuit Terra Tremuit - 'The Earth Trembled' - is an antiphon of Maundy Thursday and the Offertory for Easter. In Easter the final Alleluia is added to the antiphon. It is sung on Maundy Thursday as a prevision of what will happen on Good Friday and Easter. This Psalm foretells the earthquake that happened when Our Lord died, which was a prefigure of the Final Judgment. At the end times, when evil humanity will consider itself secure and be unmindful of the wrath of God, Our Lord will return. On that dreadful day the very foundations of the earth will be shaken, and Christ, in solemn majesty, will judge the wickedness of men. Latin Lyrics: Terra tremuit et quievit, Dum exsurgeret in Judicio Deus. Alleluia. English Translation: The earth trembled and became still again, When God arose in judgment. Alleluia. 1. Notus in Judea Deus in Israel magnum nomen eius, alleluia * dum resurgeret in iudicio Deus, alleluia. 2. Et factus est in pace locus eius et habitatio eius in Sion, alleluia * dum resurgeret in iudicio Deus, alleluia. 3. Ibi confregit cornua arcum, scutum, gladium et bellum, iluminans tu mirabiliter a montibus aeternis, alleluia. 1. In Judah is God known: His name is great in Israel, alleluia, * when God arose in judgment, alleluia. 2. His dwelling is in peace and in repose, and in Sion is His habitation, alleluia, * when God arose in judgment, alleluia. 3. There He broke bow arrows, shield, sword, and war weapons, you are glorious, more wonderful than eternal mountains, alleluia.
Sigh. The day may be fast approaching when we may have to go to War for the Church we love. There's a storm a brewing. I can feel it in the air. I hope not. But it's beginning to look a lot like it. The vultures are gathering.
The agenda of the Amazon synod is disturbing, and if it all comes to pass we will indeed be going to war to preserve our Church. Bishop Overbeck of Germany, and Fr. James Martin are cut from the same cloth. Would not be surprised if this synod triggers the Warning, or some sort of chastisenent. We are in trouble. Heaven help us.
