So this is depressing. Attached below is an article about a recent interview with Bishop Schneider that seems to indicate there will not be a formal correction. It would seem to me that he would be in a position to know about these types of things. It seems to be that they reasoned that it would have no effect on the Pope and Cardinal Burke did not get enough episcopal backing. That seems to me to be a poor reason. The Truth is the Truth whether one person says it or a hundred. The answer Bishop Schneider seems to favor is forming small enclaves to weather the storm. Very sad. Without some drastic step we will be left twisting in the wind. Did St. Athanasius say he did not have enough episcopal backing? Where are Christ's faithful shepherds? https://romalocutaest.com/2018/10/03/there-will-be-no-formal-correction/
Yes I think it was a msitake not to do this. I think different types of people have a tendency to different weaknesses and virtues. I think those in the Clerical State have a Temtpation to being afraid, to cowardice in fact. We saw this in the Apstsles when they fled the Garden, whereas the Holy Women and the Blessed Mother followed him right to His death. Or in Rome when St Peter fled Rome and Jesus had to call him back by appearing to him and saying, 'Quo Vadis?' If soldiers only fought when tehy felt certain of victory they would not win many wars. It is fighting still when all seems lost that makes true men seperate from the boys.
I think these priest, bishops, and cardinals must be frightened nearly beyond their ability to tolerate. There is a real risk of martyrdom today, in some form, whether you are shut down, suppressed as an order, forbidden to offer only the Latin Mass, sent away for psychological evaluation and drugged for being Traditional, called the cops on, or fired. It is terrible. We imagine (as do the Orthodox and Protestants) the persecution coming from the outside, which it does, but to imagine being persecuted by the men we are supposed to look up to and fear and obey as Christ, when we do the right thing, is terrifying, confusing, and disorienting. It is very, very bad. The Arian crisis is comparable, but not as bad as this. I think things will begin to speed up now. God have mercy.
I was just thinking about this yesterday when I realized it has been almost two years since the dubia was received. Pope Francis has taken the same tact on every issue of real contention and that is one of silence and carrying on as if nothing has happened. Completely ignoring everyone but those who share his vision for the Church.
I like Charles Coulombe. His videos are always informative and entertaining at the same time. I love that he keeps a spirit of levity even in very dark hours. If we don't laugh from time to time we will be constantly crying.
I agree with this comment by 'Aqua' below the article: "I completely disagree that the use of a “formal correction” depends upon the utility of whether it will be accepted by the corrected and inspire positive change. That is *one* benefit. Not the only one. Perhaps not even the most important one. It strikes me as a cop-out excuse. A formal correction is needed by orthodox Catholics in defense of the Deposit of Faith which transcends the present moment in time. It belongs to all Catholics, unaltered and whole, past, present future. It stands as an official marker. A flag, planted in the ground; for Truth, orthodox Truth. It is needed by the living Faithful who are confused by the transgressions of the successor of Peter away from orthodox faith, who is significantly clouding and altering our precious and vital Sacred Deposit of Faith. We are confused. We are losing the Faith. It is needed by future generations of Catholics who depend upon their parents to faithfully transmit this Sacred Deposit, intact, unaltered and whole, to them in the future. Praxis is undergoing daily revolution. How we live our faith is changing before our very eyes, up to and including Sacramental praxis. What Bp Schneider is saying is that the Sacred Deposit of Faith will survive this crisis regardless of whatever the attacks against it; whether it is defended or not. That is not guaranteed. It is being altered and damaged, changed, revolutionized, actively, daily, while our Shepherds do nothing. He speaks of Divine Intervention; of some future day. God intervenes miraculously, true, at times, but God also demands active participation of the living. He demands it now. He tests us now. The moment is ours. Our children will have problems enough. Why do we pass this grave crisis on to them while doing nothing? Failing to formally correct the Pope specifically means to me that every living Priest, Bishop and Cardinal fully agrees with the Pope, yes, practically speaking approves, including Bp Schneider etc. Only Bp Viganó dares this mighty deed. Alone. God bless that man. No one rose, not one Bishop or Priest rose to sieze that moment; his ongoing efforts. His glory; their shame. I am frankly scandalized that no one in the Church, save Abp Viganó, will formally correct this obvious heresy and systemic crime within the Church Hierarchy and from Peter’s Seat. So we small, vulnerable faithful stand alone with no one to guide or protect us. Bp Schneider: issue the correction. Someone, please, formalize the opposition to what is taking place."
All it takes for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing. The fact that out Bishops are so lacking should make us think how woefully inadequate we as laity have been in responding to Our Lady's call as it is our prayers that give them strength
As seen in the case of Kavanaugh, the good will prevail. The church will prevail. Jesus told us this. The laity will not tolerate this. As in the Democrats, they are digging their own graves. The people of God will rebuild the church. The hierarchy won't have much to help that. It will take a few brave souls to lead us. We need a Donald Trump to lead us through this dark period in our church....we have a few wonderful bishops who are capable...and maybe one we don't know of yet as happened with Trump.....who will it be to lead us out of this period? We had Q to direct us and keep us hopeful with Trump....but WE HAVE PRAYERS that will keep our compasses pointing in the right direction.....My reading of the liturgy of the hours daily reminds me these things have been going on since the Old Testament. But the good prevail by holding fast to God.....we also have each other!
Yes, it's not good. I think one of the troubles is our hierarchy don;t recognise eveil when it is staring them in the face...a certain false inocense.
Your right, it is somewhat depressing. But I do know there are many faithful shepards left. It is a good thing we have Jesus and our blessed mother as our sheperds. Their message and guidance to us is always unchanging, unlike men. Jesus will take care of everything because he is the church. I keep my eyes on Him and try not to concentrate on the ill deeds of man. I will always love the Catholic church no matter what. May God bless you.. .Gary
I would like to go back in tmes to the first Church just to see it for a while. Our Lady said that if only one priest today could say the mass with the fervour of one of the Apostles the entire world would be saved. But they had Jesus and Mary as their guides in the first seminary. May they guide us and all our dear priests in this terrible time.
Well Cardinal Muller'statement is the closest we have come to a Papal Correction. It is in fact about as close as you can get without specifically naming the Pope, but the way it is written all know it for what it truly is. A rebuking of the errors that have arisen during this Pontificate. Taylor Marhsall and Tim Gordon did a video on this topic. This, in my opinion, is one of the most important shows than T'nT have done:
Taylor Marshall and Time Gordon are vey good and I love to watch them. However it does good I think to bear in mind that they come from a certain Traditionalist background and are placing forward a particular Traditionalist narrative. THat's fine if you're a Trad yourself but somtimes I find it a little bit too negative and it grates a little.
Hoever they are very,very learned and have such a huge love for the Church and are very entertaining and hetereorthodox to boot, which counts for a lot.
I hate to say it but almost all of the people we post who are standing up for the truth here are Trads. Sensus Fidelium is almost all Trads, most of the people creating Youtube content are. There are only a handful of priests who aren't that speak up. Very sad. In any case I think the Church is headed Back to the Future which suits me just fine
Yes, at least all the ones at least on the internet are Trads.Or at least very conservative. Also their content is so very,very good, very professionally produced. Sometimes I listen to stuff supporting the prestn Vatican clique, but its very poor stuff in so mny ways.No wonder they are loosing the 'war' for peoples minds and hearts so badly. But the worse thing for them is that they are supporting a Great Flasehood. It is hard to present a lie well I think.
Your example of the apostles made me really think Padraig...our clerics need the Holy Spirit so badly.
Having each other is no small thing even if it looks that way.... God and Our Lady formed this....for a reason.,
