Hi Jose, I'm sorry to say this. But you are of little faith. We can not understand God's ways. We leave it in His hands. Just because you don't have locutions, that doesn't mean others don't. I don't have anything like this, although I believe I did have Satan visit me one night in a dream last year. It's nothing like others have, but Satan had a reason why he wanted to stop me from doing something. What works for one person, may not work for another person. That's life! So just don't read about the locutions. I don't read everything everyone writes. What kind of information are you looking for regarding MDM? Who I believe is NOT recieving Divine messages. I did speak a little about her on page 1 of this thread. Jose, I did say before. "Stay with us." God loves you just as much as the ones that have locutions. So keep talking, but be kind. We are all God's children. I look forward to hear from you soon. God be with you.
No, Jane, do not take me wrong: I DO NOT WANT to have any apparition or locution or something similar. First, I am not worth it and second, I would be terrified. Period. But I want to know the truth about what is going on. Yes, I have little faith. Just the one I need to believe in God, the Resurrection and in the Church.
I know it doesn't mean he gets family discounts. What I was saying, he has family who are probably on a good income being in the medical profession, and together they could help. But I don't know their situation. What I could afford to give wouldn't be anything significant. But if any little bit will help, I'd be glad to.
I can relate to the fact you would be terrified. I said recently on one of the threads, that a couple of years ago while praying with someone who was sick, I felt a very strong present of Our Lady with me. Sadly I almost ran out of the Church. I wish I stayed. You know, you don't have to believe in any of these things. You believe in the "creed"? I like to know the truth too. I am searching too. I really think MDM is not true. I think there's alot that isn't true. But I have good reason why to believe in Garabandal.
Padraig, are you referring to the great persecution that is to come? The same thing that caused Conhita and the rest to scream at Garabandal at the , 'Night of Screams' and the visionaries at Medugorje to cry when they were shown the ten secrets. We are about to be hit by everything but the kitchen sink. THe four horsemen of the Apocalypse.
The Catholic Church is the Mystical Body of Christ. The saints of the Church are a witness and sign to the world and to the faithful that there is much,much more to the faith than reciting the Creed. http://www.mysticsofthechurch.com/
Jane thanks for sharing your dream experiences I had a similar encounter I felt that I was being strangled by Satan or some demonic force I remember being in a semi awake dream like state I remember Being cross and shouting out I'm not afraid of you. I always pray to ST. Michael
Jose, do you fear God in an unnatural way? This is not an accusation but a question. Reason I am asking is because I used to be half way through my prayers and if saying them late at night, and I felt God's presence, or anything like this, or felt Mother Mary very close, even in my mind's eye. I used to run as fast as I could!!! For me, I realize now looking back it was because I was so scared of Our Blessed Mother and God, through everything that I was feeling. Thankfully, this is no longer the case. I am always aware that God is very close, and I have a huge awareness of His love for me, and my enemies, and I am so thankful for this. I am curious to know if it is the same for you? How do you see God? Just an open gentle discussion. I don't have any messages for the world. God help the world if I did. My little experiences have helped me to see just how loving God is. This in turn has enabled me to move closer, albeit shaking like a leaf at first. When I say, moving closer, I mean being able to sit before the Blessed Sacrament without getting the desire to run within a couple of minutes etc..
Hi Mary's child, To be honest, I do not known what yo are talking about. I think I had a very solid religious education. I even study some years Theology. My spiritual life was driven by the daily meditation in front of the Tabernacle twice a day, the daily Mass and the Rosary for years. After I moved to Germany, married and had four children I could not dedicate so much time to cultivate my spiritual life. Still I try to pray the Rosary and go to Mass (apart from Sundays) when I can. Never, never I had those feelings you are talking about. I never thought I would ever have locutions or something like that. As I said I am a sinner and I do not think God or the Virgin would contact somebody like me, that was to me clear from the beginning and I would be really surprised if such thing would ever happen to me. I do not expect it. Second, I do not know if I would like to have such an experience. On one side, it would be nice to be assured in the faith, on the other I would be absolutely terrified if Satan or the Virgin would appear to me. This, I believe, would be a vey normal reaction. What I wrote before is that I think people are getting confused with locutions, dreams (good or bad) and apparitions. I seriously do not believe it because it cannot be shown that it was really so. Somebody talked about the experience of the saints. Well, it was their experience. Some of those events are in many cases more legends than really stories and I know how this could happen. There is a modern saint (I won't mention the name explicitly) that it was sais to have received Jesus child from the Virgen who gave him to him. This was told by the followers of this person and so was writen in a book I had the opportunity to read. There is no way to know if this story is true or if it was invented by the followers of this man to increase his fame of santity. And so I think about all those extraordinary events that supposedly happend to so many saints in the Church's story but that I am not due to believe. That is my point. Thank you for answering my post. I think you know now how I think about these matters. But this is also why I am interested about these events, to see if sometime I could believe without doubt some of those apparitions, prophecies and supernatural events. But I guess this will not happen. As I said before I am "agnostic" regarding this issue and as there are so many people here that believe I do not want to disturb any more with my doubts.... I do not want anybody to be offended because of that. Warm regards, Jose
Hi Jose, Sorry I just had to ask that question. Now I understand. You like cold hard facts. That is the way that you are. I think this is perfectly fine, and actually calls for more faith to be honest. You know, the Truth of the Gospel, The Blessed Sacrament, The Mass, holding Mother's Mary's hand through resuscitation of the rosary is everything. I for one am not offended if you do not believe in locutions etc, and I completely agree with you that they are a very personal matter. I don't think that you should feel that you have to leave because you don't accept locutions. There are many that I do not accept for (in my opinion) good reasons. I am sorry, if I offended you by my question, I am just trying to understand, and like you, I need all the facts. Hence the question. We are not obliged at all to believe in apparitions etc, even those that have been approved by the Roman Catholic Church. We are just obliged to believe in all the teachings of the Roman Catholic Church, which is pretty much summed up in The Creed. My favorite prayer. I have been thinking a lot about what you have said today, and the experiences of people etc. And, apart from those who have been called forward as prophets, such as Jeremiah etc, (I am sure that you believe this) the rest receive these spiritual consolations through their need, not their holiness. My mum, never feels a thing, she never has done, doesn't get inspirations etc, yet she is a living saint, and a total inspiration to me. I get (and you don't have to believe that is what they are) little inspirations because I am weak, because I needed help in coming forward, if that makes sense. I don't expect you to pass comment, and it is fine that you don't accept this. I am not offended, and my experience of faith and my beliefs don't have to be endorsed by someone else, (other than the Church of course) for me to believe them. I have also been thinking about what you said about God intervening, and He does right the way throughout history. I am not going to go into a time scale, but I will mention a few ways that God has intervened. At the time of the fall, when the light of God was blocked out from man. God, revealed himself slowly to His people again, Seth, the third child of Adam and Eve carried on the line of God's blessing. We also had, Abraham + Issac, and Joseph (who could interpret dreams)it was his brother then of course Noah, when the whole Earth was renewed. Then we had Moses, and God leading the israelites out of slavery, whereby they followed the cloud by day and slept by night and were fed manna from Heaven. We then had kings, prophets etc.. The Second Covenant came through Noah, Adam and Eve broke the first covenant, the next covenant came through Moses, and then Jesus Himself. We had priests and prophets right the way throughout the bible. God has always intervened. From Christ's time onward, we have had saints, and to me Mother Theresa was a true prophet of our times. We have had quite a few with the stigmata and I need to look into this, as it was another thing that I was thinking on today. Did God give us one of these in every century since His death and resurrection? I need to look into this. Of course some stigmatas are fake, in the same way that some prophets were fake throughout the ages, Mohammed was a false prophet, yet he had and still does have many followers. This is just one example. There are those who are false prophets for money, those who need to nurse their egos and so give themselves a platform to be adorned by the world etc.. Some are easy to spot as they make theological mistakes, others is their code of dress, but some are very good at what they do.. You are smart not to believe everything that comes along, Christ continuously warned us about this, and it actually makes you a strong roman Catholic, in that you are happy with your solid foundation of faith. I admire you Jose..
I should have also said, what is more important to me that the inspirations, which I question gravely when they happen during the day and sometimes ignore. What is most important to me, and the only thing that I can depend on 100% like yourself is The Mass, The Blessed Sacrament The Holy Trinity Mother Mary Prayer My Bible, and my guardian angel... With all of these alone, I am rich, provided that I pray. Thank you for your frankness Jose, I love it
Brother Stanley speaks with church authority. Brother Stanley said.. "My Lord, my God, so many ask me, I pray the chaplet everyday, I pray the Rosary everyday, I attend mass everyday, but why is my family so far away from Lord? Even if I force them, still they refuse." Jesus said. "My son, my son. Do not force them, because you can not change a person. Only God can change a person and only prayers can move God. So, multiply your prayers for the sinners, because the sinners do not pray for themselves anymore. And if you stop praying for them, it is like you are throwing them into the fire. But if you continue praying for that person before that person dies, he will go back to the Lord...... Before that person dies, he will go back to the Lord." Wow. We have a responsibility, don't we? Brother Stanley asks The Lord. "What are the sins that You cannot forgive?" Jesus says. "All sins can be forgiven, except if you refuse to believe your sins can be forgiven." Because Jesus said by refusing His mercy you are also refusing to believe He is a God. That is why Jesus said. "Before I come as a Just Judge, I will open wide the door of MY MERCY." But Jesus continued that "He who refuses to pass through the doors of My Mercy, will have to pass through the doors of My Justice." Heaven is only for the clean and pure. All of us are sinners. We can only enter Heaven through His Mercy, through His love. Without God's Mercy, without God's love, it is too difficult to enter Heaven. Jesus said. "Proclaiming My Mercy is not enogh, you have to put Mercy into action, and how? By living as an example of My Mercy." Jesus said. "He who save a soul saves his own." to continue later..........
Hi Mary's child, No, you did not offend me with your question at all and, you know? You are a nice person to talk to... God bless you, Jose
Jayne. My experience wasn't as bad as yours. When Satan came in my dream disguised as a priest, it was the night before I spoke at my aunts funeral. I had a bit to say about the faith, including why euthenasia shouldn't happen. I was so confused when I woke up. I prayed at I left it in God's hands. When I wake in the middle of the night, I always pray to St Michael. Sometimes I think I do it in my sleep.
oh wow, my son had an experience similar to this. He was 14 at the time. He woke up and something was sitting on his chest, beforehand, he has been dreaming and was screaming out, it scared my daughter so much that she tried to wake him. When he did wake up, he couldn't talk as something was sitting on him, all he could do was murmer. We were in Medjugorje at this time. He felt like the weight was on his voice box being gripped. He also saw a shadow on the wall in the shape of a man, but he couldn't look directly at it. My daughter was crying as he was murmuring even though he was awake and she couldn't understand him. She ran to get me, I went into his room and sprinkled Holy Water about the place, within a few seconds, he was himself again, but was sobbing. Was this something similar for you? I would love to hear about your dreams of Our Blessed Mother.
Oh my goodness God love him I just felt a sensation of being strangled then I seen this golden armour I felt it was May be St Micheal I always pray to him or could of been my Guardian angel
