He is a very good priest and seems quite holy. One could argue he got a little too side tracked into the church scandals though.
This again reminds me so much of St Padre Pio, even when he was alive, even as a child and used to read books and books about him. Back then even before the abuse scandals, even more Modernist heretics had come right out in the open, even more the abuses of the misreading of Vatican 2 got underway, hagiographers of the saint all took a certain tack on the silencing of Padre Pio and the stopping of his public ministry. They said that the efforts to silence Padre Pio was prudential. That the Southern Italians were inclined to be hysterical and it would become a freak show. There were also a whole seried of very serious personal attacks on the saint, that he was a fraud, that he was too else to his women devotess and on and on and on and on.... I never really accepted this even back then. It offended my natural sense of justice. I t seemed to me simply unjust. If he were guilty of anything bring him to canonical trail. If not leave him in peace to get on with his life. If was only after the bio of Bernard Ruffin , the Lutheran Minister that things became a lot clearer. Padre Pio's Archbishop had originally been very supportive of the saint. But he happened to be a child molestor who abused his cathedral altars boys. The locals rioted when they found out broke into his house and he got beat up and his nose broke. But the Vatican of course true to type hushed things up. Anyway apparently the Archbihsop turned up and had Padre Pio hear his confession, shouted angry voices were heard as Padre Pio let him have it with both barrels and the bishop ran from the Church white as a sheet and was never seen in those parts again. But then on the attitude of the Archbishop radically changed as did that of the authorities in the Vatican. Some of their goings on were utterly diabolical, when for instance they bugged his confession box. Satanic. The same kind of thoughts cross my mind as with Father Mark Goring. The goings on here offend my natural sense of justice. If he has done wrong take him to ecclessial court and deal with him that way. This shutting down buiness with no official procedures strikes me as profoundly unjust. There are two cultures surrounding whistle blowers anywhere. There is a culture of accepting them as heroes and truth sayers. There is another culture which appears to be current in Rome and in South America of being hostile to whistle blowers as trouble makers and dissidents. It seems to me this is the evil corrupt culture that is reacting to Fr Mark Goring. You know Jesus Himself was a trouble makers. He made loads of waves, He told it like it was and that's why they tortured Him to death. My own belief is that Fr Mark is following Padre Pio and even Jesus and the Apostles themselves. Of course Fr Mark is a , 'Troublemaker'. People who proclaim the truth always cause trouble But sometimes we need to cause trouble to overcome evil and expose the Truth.
I never got the chance to watch any of his videos. I wonder if anyone was able to catalog and keep them? I guess he was ordered to remove them, but it's still permissible for the laity to view them. I didn't realize that he's down south in my neck of the woods. I want to look into the St. Joseph's battalion. Did he post information about it or just mention it in a video?
I totally support Fr. Goring's obedience to the legitimate authority he has vowed to serve. Obedience is the mark of a saint. However it is good to remember a video that Father Goring recorded that has since been removed from YouTube. In that video he mentioned that his diocese was under the direction of Archbishop DiNardo, whom Father Goring treated with love and respect. Archbishop Daniel DiNardo is the current Archbishop of Galveston-Houston, serving since 2006. There are conflicting reports concerning his handling of the current crisis in his diocese. https://www.americamagazine.org/fai...n-cardinal-dinardo-continue-lead-abuse-crisis As investigation hits home diocese, can Cardinal DiNardo continue to lead on the abuse crisis? Kevin ClarkeNovember 30, 2018 Facebook Twitter Email Cardinal DanielDiNardo of Galveston-Houston, president of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, listens to a question on Nov. 12 during the fall general assembly of the USCCB in Baltimore. (CNS photo/Bob Roller) Investigators for the district attorney of Montgomery County in Texas executed a search warrant seeking records pertaining to the handling of instances of alleged clerical abuse at the offices of the Archdiocese of Galveston-Houston on Nov. 28. The spectacle of dozens of Texas Rangers and other local law enforcement swarming the Houston chancery offered the latest unprecedented moment as the church in the United States grapples with the ongoing crisis of the clerical abuse of children and vulnerable adults. The archdiocese is headed by Cardinal Daniel DiNardo, the president of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops and the person leading the U.S. bishops’ response to the crisis. In a statement released on Nov. 28 representatives for the archdiocese said it had no comment on the investigation at this time. The D.A.’s investigation raises questions about how Cardinal DiNardo and his staff dealt with complaints against Father Manuel La Rosa-Lopez, accused by two people of assault two decades ago when they were teenagers. Both victims told The Associated Press that they met with Cardinal DiNardo but felt he did not take their complaints about Father La Rosa-Lopez seriously. The leader of the Houston chapter of the Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests has already called for Cardinal DiNardo to step down to accept responsibility for alleged failures in Galveston-Houston and during a previous position as bishop of the Diocese of Sioux City. Presuming the bad press in Texas will continue, can Cardinal DiNardo continue to credibly lead the U.S. bishops as the conference seeks a way out of the abuse crisis? “The answer is we don’t know,” said Tom Reese, S.J., a columnist for Religion News Service, a former editor in chief at America and a long-time observer of the U.S. church. “We have to wait until the prosecutor comes forward and says what he found and says what the situation is there. “Until we know the facts, I don’t think we can pass any judgment on him,” Father Reese said. “If he has been found to have not followed the Dallas charter, I’d say he’s in trouble. But if he has done the right thing, this is an investigation that is not going to go anywhere.” Cardinal DiNardo’s office did not respond to requests for comment. Disheartening revelations of cover-up and nearly incomprehensible indifference contained in a Pennsylvania grand jury report released in August have provoked a new round of institutional soul-searching over episcopal accountability and a new willingness among state actors to intervene in U.S. Catholic Church affairs. The reaction to the Pennsylvania report, sparking widespread disgust and outrage anew among U.S. Catholics, seems to have altered the political calculus among prosecutors who in the past did not always aggressively pursue child abuse allegations even when they were reported to them, allowing church officials, catastrophically, to police their own priests. Now prosecutors around the nation have been “jumping on the bandwagon and looking at the dioceses,” Father Reese said. Little noticed, he argues, is that while the grand jury report included plenty of bad news—300 priests accused of abusing thousands of victims over decades—it also included some good news for the nation’s discouraged Catholic community. Every one of the accused priests were either deceased or had been removed from ministry, Father Reese pointed out. “And only two had been accused of abusing a child in the last 20 years. “If the Pennsylvania school system had that kind of record, I think they would dance for joy,” he said. “The problem with the Pennsylvania grand jury report is that no one looked at the dates but everyone reacted to the headlines.” The rest of the article can be found at the link above.
I'm not sure but I am wondering if it has been disbanded. The video for how to join it was removed and I took a quick look and don't see much info. Maybe someone else can find it? I know Carol and Dolours can find a lonely flea on a Great Dane.
There a facebook page for St. Joesphe's Battalion: https://www.facebook.com/pg/St-Josephs-Battalion-340169689906750/posts/ Looks like some lay Catholics intend to keep it going. I'm not on FB, but anyone who is could probably post a question about how to join now that Fr. Mark has been silenced. Poor innocent soul, posting a video asking who's in charge of the Jesuits and one questioning Cardinal Wuerl's presence at the pro-life and youth rallies was bound to bring the axe of mercy down upon him.
I love that phrase "The axe of mercy" These men speak of mercy, but are truly the most ruthless people I have known. They only have mercy for those who agree with them. They don't even know what true mercy is...
Praetorian, My above post explains everything. The odd thing for me is that I wanted to do this for awhile but with Christmas and my older children coming home, I got sidetracked and then on January 3rd I wrote a little letter to him and I got it all ready with his address and a picture to send to him then two days later Father Goring posted the "Cease and Desist" video. Well, I mailed my letter to him yesterday. He should have it today and I am glad to be able to share the details with all of you on how to join his "St. Joseph Battalion". I know that he will be thrilled by the support that we can give him simply by sending him a photo of ourselves and letting him know that we are praying daily for the Church. Here are the details again: He asked that each member kneel and say a prayer 3 times a day and he wanted everyone who was committed to joining him to send a picture of themselves to him at: Father Mark Goring 1949 Cullen Blvd. Houston, TX 77023 In addition, a couple of months ago after the USCCB meeting he made the following video which has also been removed but I found a copy of it online. It is clear that he knew that he would become a target. The following video is his latest. It appears that he is looking for suggestions on how he should go forward and in this video he asking Pope Francis if he can continue to comment (very loving) about what is occurring in the Church. The following video is from yesterday.
Surprisingly another broadcast from Fr Mark!! I thought he was off in the wilderness, never to be heard of again. I don't know, poor man, he looks upset to me. Prayers!!
I wonder where his parish is in Houston. I'll be in Houston with my wife for 4 days in a week-and-a-half! Safe Under Mary's Mantle!
I'll be praying for him!! He is very,very innocent but I like him all the more for that. I don't think he's Diocesan but a member of some fairly new Religious Order. Bless him, many prayers. I hope he doesn't get too battered by all this. Yes, they are called , 'Companions of the Cross' (CC) Here they are in Houston here: https://companionscross.org/catholic-charismatic-center 1949 Cullen Boulevard Houston, TX, 77023-3553 USA It would be a kindness to call if you have the time. I think he might need all the kindness he can get. I can see the folks in Rome sending him to minister to parrots in the Outer Panagonia rain forest or anywhere in the world with no internet connection. Poor Fr Mark. You can;t get much more innocent than asking Pope Francis for help. It's a bit like like asking Don Corleone to save you from the Mafia.
I was just looking at their bulletin and checking their Holy Mass schedule. This is a real big parish of which Fr. Mark is pastor. He looks young, but he's been ordained 20 yrs. The CCC Center is about 35 minutes from my son's home. Their Mass schedule dances around our itinerary; I'm sure Chris would want us to attend his parish. Unfortunately, though they aren't too far from the airport, their Saturday Mass doesn't line up when we arrive! Best that I write him a personal note so he'll receive it in the mail! Safe in the Divine Will!
It was so good of you to think of him. I'll be praying for him through this week and further. Religious Obedience is a real, real biggie. I really do feel for him. Philippians 2:8 The Attitude of Christ …7but emptied Himself, taking the form of a servant, being made in human likeness. 8And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to death— even death on a cross. 9Therefore God exalted Him to the highest place and gave Him the name above all names,…
I think the Holy Spirit is very much working in Fr Mark even when asking a question of Pope Francis, even if just to prove the pope is not listening or does not care. Prayers also here for Fr Mark.
After watching this video apparently Fr. Mark was not given anything in writing. This is significant! My understanding is that you can only appeal if you have something in writing. I don't know if his superiors did this on purpose or if it was accidental, but I have read about priests being railroaded like this before. Tell them to do something, but don't give it to them in writing so they can't appeal. Then if they don't do what they are told their superiors can charge them with disobedience. It is some sort of a loophole in Canon Law.
