I was reading an article and a thought occurred to me. Perhaps some priest should nail the Dubia to the front door of St. Peter's. Sort of a reverse Martin Luther. The Dubia It is asked whether, following the affirmations of Amoris Laetitia (300-305), it has now become possible to grant absolution in the sacrament of penance and thus to admit to holy Communion a person who, while bound by a valid marital bond, lives together with a different person more uxorio without fulfilling the conditions provided for by Familiaris Consortio, 84, and subsequently reaffirmed by Reconciliatio et Paenitentia, 34, and Sacramentum Caritatis, 29. Can the expression “in certain cases” found in Note 351 (305) of the exhortation Amoris Laetitia be applied to divorced persons who are in a new union and who continue to live more uxorio? After the publication of the post-synodal exhortation Amoris Laetitia (304), does one still need to regard as valid the teaching of St. John Paul II’s encyclical Veritatis Splendor, 79, based on sacred Scripture and on the Tradition of the Church, on the existence of absolute moral norms that prohibit intrinsically evil acts and that are binding without exceptions? After Amoris Laetitia (301) is it still possible to affirm that a person who habitually lives in contradiction to a commandment of God’s law, as for instance the one that prohibits adultery (Matthew 19:3-9), finds him or herself in an objective situation of grave habitual sin (Pontifical Council for Legislative Texts, “Declaration,” June 24, 2000)? After the affirmations of Amoris Laetitia (302) on “circumstances which mitigate moral responsibility,” does one still need to regard as valid the teaching of St. John Paul II’s encyclical Veritatis Splendor, 81, based on sacred Scripture and on the Tradition of the Church, according to which “circumstances or intentions can never transform an act intrinsically evil by virtue of its object into an act ‘subjectively’ good or defensible as a choice”? After Amoris Laetitia (303) does one still need to regard as valid the teaching of St. John Paul II’s encyclical Veritatis Splendor, 56, based on sacred Scripture and on the Tradition of the Church, that excludes a creative interpretation of the role of conscience and that emphasizes that conscience can never be authorized to legitimate exceptions to absolute moral norms that prohibit intrinsically evil acts by virtue of their object?
Government officials raid Houston archdiocese in sex abuse probe Christopher White | Nov 28, 2018 | https://cruxnow.com/church-in-the-u...-raid-houston-archdiocese-in-sex-abuse-probe/ Cardinal Daniel DiNardo, president of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, looks up while holding a press conference Nov. 12 at the bishops' general assembly in Baltimore. (Credit: CNS.) The headquarters for the archdiocese of Galveston-Houston were raided on Wednesday in a search for files related to a priest accused of sexual abuse. NEW YORK - Officers from several agencies raided the headquarters of the Archdiocese of Galveston-Houston - led by the President of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) Cardinal Daniel DiNardo - on Wednesday in an effort to collect evidence against a priest accused of sexual abuse. In a move that surprised diocesan officials, District Attorney of Montgomery County Brett Ligon obtained a search warrant at 8:30 a.m. on Wednesday morning and an hour later a team of 60 law enforcement agents descended upon the diocesan headquarters. The search warrant focused on the case of Father Manuel La Rosa-Lopez, who has been charged with four counts of indecency with a child involving sexual contact. La Rosa-Lopez was arrested in September. The alleged incidents, which include allegations from both a man and a woman, took place from 1998 to 2000. La Rosa-Lopez has denied the allegations and is currently free on a $225,000 bond. Wednesday’s search is the fourth warrant of Church facilities obtained by Ligon, including a local parish and a rehabilitation center. Along with representatives from the District Attorney’s office, the team included personnel from the Texas Department of Public Safety, the Texas Rangers, Conroe Police Department, and federal agents. Ligon said that while his team was prepared for the search to take two full days, he said that due to the cooperation they are receiving, he expected the task could be completed within the day. While stating that DiNardo had cooperated, Ligon hinted that there may be others throughout the diocese who have prevented law enforcement officers from getting the information they were seeking. “If Cardinal DiNardo is cooperative, it doesn’t mean that people that work with Cardinal DiNardo are cooperative. It doesn’t mean that they’re going to tell him the truth,” he said. “The good thing is, I’ve taken the burden off of everybody in the Catholic Church. They don’t have to know anything. I’m going to find it all out,” he challenged. Ligon, who said he is a Catholic himself, insisted, “this is not a search warrant against the Catholic Church. What this is, is a search warrant to review files that belong to a defendant.” The district attorney said this includes any files in the archdiocese’s secret archives. In a statement, the Archdiocese of Galveston-Houston said it was continuing to cooperate with the process - “as we have since the outset.” “In fact, consistent with Cardinal DiNardo’s pledge of full cooperation, the information being sought was already being compiled,” the statement continued. It also clarified that ‘secret archives’ is “merely a Church term pertaining to confidential documents kept in a secure manner for the protection of the privacy of individuals - not unlike medical records.” Ligon also noted that anything else of interest that is uncovered would be turned over to the Texas Rangers or federal agencies - a move that could dramatically increase the scope of the investigation. Speaking to reporters as the search was underway, the prosecutor said he was willing to follow the evidence wherever it leads him. “My gift is that I was born suspicious as hell,” he said. “If it leads us to the Vatican, I’ll be headed to Rome.” This story will be updated. *** Edward Pentin | Nov. 28, 2018 | http://www.ncregister.com/blog/edwa...ore-details-of-bishop-pinedas-alleged-miscond Honduran News Site Publishes More Details of Bishop Pineda’s Alleged Misconduct In an editorial, ‘ConfidencialHN’ says the “children of Honduras are worth as much as those of Chile, Pennsylvania or Ireland,” and asks for a “thorough investigation” of clerical sex abuse in the country. “It’s confirmation of all the filth,” a Honduran source told the Register last week... [Please click on the link above for the full NCR story.]
I figured, since the Church decided not to investigate themselves within, government will do what the Church won't. And here it goes........... This will not fare out well for the hierarchy who are covering up or the Church faithful who will be at the brunt of the shame, which they had nothing to do with it all. Shame on our hierarchy, all the way to the Pope, who think they can ignore what went on and what is going on now in the clergy homosexual ring, as if it will go away. Its getting every more closer to the fulfillment of Cardinal Ratzingers 1969 prophecy, where the Church will loose all of its edifices, it Catholic Colleges/schools and its hospitals and become very small.
Yes, the part where it says "in those days, Jesus Christ will send them not a true pastor, but a destroyer" suggests that the man will actually be Pope. It's a bit of a stretch, but if "not canonically elected" means that the specifics of Canon Law were not met, maybe it could refer to the situation where Pope Francis was elected on the fifth ballot when the rules permitted only four ballots. In this Catholic World Report article, Dr. Edward Peters explains how that didn't invalidate the election of Pope Francis: https://www.catholicworldreport.com/2017/09/28/francis-was-never-pope-call-me-unpersuaded/ He based his conclusion on a different part of Canon law. Essentially, he seems to be using that separate canon to say that all was well because the Cardinals acted in the spirit of the law despite the fifth ballot being an apparent breach of the letter of the law. It's more likely that "not canonically elected" would be a situation described by Dr. Peters where, rather than following the current canon, they went back to old ways of choosing a Pope by popular acclaim, compromise or drawing lots. There are some interesting comments on that article, some of them disagreeing with Dr. Peters although not on the question of the number of ballots conducted. The prophecy of the "destroyer Pope" is referred to in the first comment.
Because the pedigree of the alleged St. Francis prophecy is a bit unsure I have never put it in my "A" column, but I have to admit that if it is a forgery it may remarkably fit our current situation if there indeed were problems during the election. That is the only reason I pay any attention to it at all. I think you're right Dolours and that is why we have to be careful about hurling around "Antipope" because there could have been problems with the election that didn't necessarily invalidate it. It really would need to be looked at by experts if there is anything to it. Also, there is some mention I have heard of by priests (and very traditional ones) that even if there are problems with the election that once a Pope is presented to the people and they universally accept him that "heals" any problems that existed during the election process. Of course, that may or may not include rigging a vote if that indeed occurred. It may refer to more minor discrepancies like taking too many ballots on the same day in violation of the rules in place at the time.
We might need to create a new thread for this sort of thing. We appear to have entered the realm of search warrants. http://www.wbap.com/2018/11/28/inve...-warrant-at-archdiocese-of-galveston-houston/ Investigators Execute Search Warrant at Archdiocese of Galveston-Houston Posted on November 28, 2018 Montgomery County D.A. Brett Ligon HOUSTON (AP) – Prosecutors investigating a sexual abuse case against a Houston-area priest are executed a search warrant at the offices of the local archdiocese, led by the cardinal leading the Roman Catholic Church’s response in the U.S. to sexual misconduct. Investigators from the Montgomery County District Attorney’s Office were at the offices Wednesday of the Archdiocese of Galveston-Houston. Cardinal Daniel DiNardo is head of the archdiocese and the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops. The Rev. Manuel La Rosa-Lopez was arrested in September and charged with four counts of indecency with a child. Two people who have cooperated with police have accused DiNardo of not doing enough to stop La Rosa-Lopez. Both have told The Associated Press that they met with DiNardo but felt he didn’t take their complaints about La Rosa-Lopez seriously. The archdiocese says it’s cooperating with the investigation. Copyright 2018. Associated Press. All Rights Reserved. Filed Under: 24/7 Newsroom News, WBAP 24/7 News
Yes, there's a sermon on the Sensus Fidelium channel explaining that. Also, Cardinal Muller said in a recent interview that it's wrong to call for the resignation of the Pope. I haven't read the interview but I notice that it is being carried in publications which normally wouldn't have a good word to say about Cardinal Muller. Sounds like Cardinal Muller is making sure nobody can accuse him of being in league with Archbishop Vigano. Poor Cardinal Muller is terrified of schism and tries so hard to be a unifier that he steps on everyone's toes. I think that he is really concerned that the current crisis could result in permanent damage to the papacy. In fairness to Archbishop Vigano, when he made his statement about the Pope resigning he was really saying that the Pope should practice what he preaches on zero tolerance. I suppose he was calling the Pope a hypocrite, not without good reason.
For emphasis: St. John did not flee, but, true to your point, he wasn't subsequently given primacy over the pusillanimous Peter.
The prophecy, in fact, states that there will be a true Pope and a false pope, right? True - Benedict XVI False - Francis
Um....don't they subpoena files any more? All these raids by various prosecutors (as in the Mueller special counsel tactics) could lead to one sided Stasi type tactics rather than normal processes under the law.....for ALL.
Well, Germans do like order! Hopefully the Pope read this interview as well! Some might think this to be a bit too idealistic which will not satisfy the victims. Just depends on who is "selected" as "advisors" to the Pope .... since the choices made for such closeness to this Pope so far haven't been all that inclusive of all sides. Müller calls out Viganò, US bishops in new interview ROME - The Vatican’s former doctrinal chief in a new interview issued a strong critique of both a former papal ambassador who asked Pope Francis to resign, and the U.S. bishops’ decision to move on sex abuse without proper consultation from the Holy See. In the interview, given to veteran Vatican journalist Andrea Tornielli and published Nov. 27 on Italian site Vatican Insider, German Cardinal Gerhard Müller, former prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, spoke out against the polemics that have developed between different Church factions, and said he believes Francis is doing everything he can to address clerical sexual abuse. “No one has the right to indict the pope or ask him to resign!” Müller said, referring to an Aug. 26 statement made by Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò, who served as papal envoy to the U.S. from 2011-2016, accusing Francis of ignoring warnings about the sexual misconduct of ex-Cardinal Theodore McCarrick and asking him to resign. “Clearly it is possible to have different opinions on the existing problems and on the ways to resolve them, but we must discuss them according to the roles of each,” Müller said, adding that it is the cardinals who ought to help the pope or ask him for explanations. However, these conversations “must take place in private, in the proper places, and without ever making a public controversy,” he said, adding that such “attacks” ultimately “end up questioning the credibility of the Church and her mission.” Müller said he is personally convinced that the pope “is doing everything possible” to address the clerical abuse scandals and to push priests to adopt a “new spirituality,” acting according to Christ in pursuing what is best for children and young people. Müller’s defense of Francis may come as a surprise by some, as he has typically been seen as opposed to the pontiff on matters of doctrine and the Church’s moral teaching. Müller, who oversaw the Vatican’s doctrinal office from 2012-2017, said he was surprised when his mandate ended to hear that it would not be renewed, and that Francis had been casual in how he handled it, without giving much notice. At the time, many pegged the pope’s decision not to renew Müller’s mandate on difference between the two over Francis’s 2016 apostolic exhortation, Amoris Laetitia, which opened a cautious door for divorced and remarried Catholics without an annulment to receive communion. However, in his interview, Müller condemned the polarization inside the Church. Addressing allegations by some that the abuse crisis is being used as a weapon to fight internal battles, he said the entire ecclesial community must work together to overcome the sexual abuse crisis, which is “hurting the credibility of the Church.” “Unfortunately, we have these groups, these ‘parties’ - the so-called ‘progressives’ and ‘conservatives,’” he said. “We are all united in the revealed faith, and not by the prejudices of political ideologies. We are not a political entity.” Müller voiced hope that Francis would make steps toward reconciliation, and suggested establishing a commission of close cardinal confidants to study the abuse crisis in the U.S. and make proposals that go beyond “oppositions, struggles between factions, mutual suspicions, and propaganda carried out by media campaigns.” “We need a solid base of information: only in this way decisions can be made for the future,” he said, and stressed the need for personal spiritual conversion and renewal, saying priests who no longer pray or confess their sins are “mercenaries,” not pastors. Referring to the pope’s decision to ask the U.S. bishops to put their abuse agenda on hold during their fall general assembly, Müller said the bishops and the pope must collaborate in addressing the issue based on existing norms. “Not always all the bishops have collaborated with our department,” he said, referring to the Vatican’s doctrine department. “They have not informed as it is ought to be done.” Noting how one of the main critiques of the U.S. bishops’ proposals is that the texts were sent to Rome at the last minute and raised several flags in terms of canon law, Müller asked, “why was it not sent earlier?” “We must avoid confrontation and public controversy, and first discuss together to then arrive at a decision,” he said, adding that in his view, the leadership of the U.S. bishops’ conference should have consulted with experts in the doctrine office before making a move. Müller also touched on the issue of homosexuality and the fact that it has been pinned by some as a cause of the clerical abuse scandals. In his comments, Müller said there is no such thing as “homosexuals as a category. There are concrete people who have certain tendencies, and there are temptations.” “Our hearts are wounded by the original sin and we must overcome temptations with grace, the new life in Jesus Christ. Always calling sin a sin and recognizing it as such, so as not to fall into the corruption of those who sin and self-justify themselves.” Clerical sexual abuse, he said, is above all an abuse of power. Müller said he doesn’t like to use the word clericalism, calling it “ambivalent” but referred to it as the “abuse of office” on the part of the priest. Noting how Francis has also come under fire for making “wrong appointments” of bishops, decisions some have argued are being exploited by the media, Müller said Jesus himself named Judas as one of the twelve disciples closes to him. “Jesus Christ himself, even though he knew everything thanks to his divine intellect, left freedom to the traitor Judas,” he said, stressing that each person is responsible for their own choices and sins. While the pope and the bishops do their best to make the right choice, “the Pope is not responsible for what these bishops then do, as the bishops are not responsible for everything their priests do,” he said, but emphasized the need to learn from mistakes when they are made. https://cruxnow.com/vatican/2018/11/28/muller-calls-out-vigano-us-bishops-in-new-interview/
The Gospel says that they all fled after Jesus was arrested. St. John was at the foot of the cross but there's no mention of him being anywhere near Jesus from the time of the arrest until the crucifixion. We know that there were holy women on the via dolorosa but there's no mention of any of the apostles until Jesus spoke to Mary and John from the cross. Presumably John and Mary were in the crowd following Jesus as He carried the cross to Calvary. As I understand the prophecy, there will be a good Pope who will be disobeyed followed by a destroyer Pope. The prophecy doesn't say they will be alive at the same time. Neither does it say that the good Pope will die before Jesus sends the destroyer Pope. I think that St. Francis would have said "false pope" or "anti-Pope" if he meant that there will be two men claiming to be Pope. The final sentence of the prophecy suggests that the destroyer will be accepted by the hierarchy as a valid Pope (it's the hierarchy who choose the Pope): "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it under foot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days JESUS CHRIST WILL SEND THEM NOT A TRUE PASTOR, BUT A DESTROYER. St. Francis lived at a time when there were bad albeit valid popes. If he thought that the destroyer wouldn't be a valid Pope, he wouldn't have included the part about Jesus sending a destroyer. I read it that Jesus will give bad priests what they want - a bad but valid Pope. Of course, the prophecy might not be genuine. As Praetorian pointed out, there are questions about its provenance. Nevertheless, it does seem to describe the current mess, especially where we have a Pope favoured by prelates who worked to undermine his predecessors and who flatly refuses to defend the Faith while using pastoral practice as an umbrella term to "develop" doctrine into a contradiction of itself. Genuine or not, both the St. Francis prophecy and the prophecy of St. Anthony of the Desert seem to describe the Church under the Pope Francis stewardship.
Poor Cardinal Muller. He tries so hard to be a peacemaker, looking for the best in everyone. I think he gave that interview to "Inside the Vatican" which is regarded as a mouthpiece for the current cabal controlling Christ's Church. He is appealing for the Pope and his henchmen to do the right thing and warning the other extreme that the future of the papacy is at stake. His efforts may be too little, too late. The Pope's treatment of him after he tried to ride the fence on Amoris Laetitia should be all the evidence he needs that he's spitting in the wind. If anything, the fact that the cabal would turn to Cardinal Muller for an interview is further evidence that they are in desperate damage control mode.
Well, the world will be dramatic and sensationalize everything that leads to further eroding the belief in the Church by the faithful and embolden those who have always spoken out against Her.
I think that the prophecy of a true and false Pope was another visionary. Catherine Emmerich? La Salette?
earthtoangels, When I read that "a team of 60 law enforcement agents descended upon the diocesan headquarters" this seemed a bit extreme too. I agree with what Don stated also, "the world will be dramatic and sensationalize everything that leads to further eroding the belief in the Church by the faithful and embolden those who have always spoken out against Her." I think this why Our Blessed Mother has implored us to pray for the Church and the clergy. *** I hate to say it but here is another sad story. It sounds like these nuns could use our prayers too and they are asking that people support them by signing a petition. Conservative order of nuns on verge of destruction following Vatican interventions November 27, 2018 (LifeSiteNews.com) – Almost all of the members of a conservative order of nuns that serve the elderly in French nursing homes have announced that they have asked to be released from their vows following attempts by the Vatican to force them to alter their way of life and to “modernize” their order.... LifeSiteNews · November 29, 2018 *** Edward Pentin tweeted this today, "Examining the Modernist Roots of the Church’s Current Crisis - an article on a little-reported Rome conference in June https://edwardpentin.co.uk/examining-the-modernist-roots-of-the-churchs-current-crisis/ …" *** I noticed that Bishop Rene Henry Gracida has compiled an honor roll of US Bishops, https://abyssum.org/my-honor-roll-of-bishops/ . MY HONOR ROLL OF BISHOPS THIS IS A LIST OF BISHOPS I KNOW OR KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT TO TO CONSIDER THEM GOOD BISHOPS WORTHY OF SUPPORT AND RESPECT Samuel J. Aquila Robert J. Baker Fabian Bruskewitz Brendan J. Cahill Robert J. Carlson Edmond Carmody Charles J. Chaput Paul S. Coakley James D. Conley Salvatore J. Cordileone Daniel J. Cronin Elden F. Curtis Felipe J. Estevez David E. Fellhauer Roert W. Finn Gerald A. Gettlefinger Martin D. Holley Joseph L. Howze Damiel R. Jenky Peter J. Jugis Joseph E. Kurtz Oscar H. Lipscomb Basil H. Losten Robert C. Morlino Joseph F. Naumann Thomas J. Olmstead Thomas John Paprocki Francis A. Quinn David L. Ricken Placido Rodriguez Alexander K. Sample Michael J. Sheridan William S. Skylstad Edward J. Slattery Joseph E. Strickland Thomas J. Tobin Robert F. Vasa John W. Yanta Raymond L. Burke *** And speaking of Bishop Strickland he posted the following yesterday, https://twitter.com/Bishopoftyler/status/1067784096900882432 *** A better note, there are some very good links contained in the following article, The Top 9 Most Prestigious Catholic Colleges in the US, Churches Worth Driving To, and More Links!
WOW! It seems Bishop Strickland is sending a huge message to those who will hear it. 2 Peter 2:1-9 False Teachers and Their Destruction 1But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. 2Many will follow their depraved conduct and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. 3In their greed these teachers will exploit you with fabricated stories. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping. 4For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, a putting them in chains of darkness b to be held for judgment; 5if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others; 6if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly; 7and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the depraved conduct of the lawless 8(for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)— 9if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue the godly from trials and to hold the unrighteous for punishment on the day of judgment.
