How do we know, Don, whether or not we already have a Pontiff chosen by outside influences? We do know that he was chosen by a cabal of Bishops calling themselves a Mafia who made no secret of their promotion of him. Read the old reports about the Catholic Spring and compare them with what is coming out of the Vatican and "friends of the Pope". McCarrick was such a sleazeball that I wouldn't put it past him to have been the link between the Podesta outfit and the St. Gallen group. A person would have to be completely naive to believe that Podesta & Co hadn't heard the rumours about McCarrick, and Podesta was on the staff of Jesuit Georgetown University. Didn't the NYT sit on an article about McCarrick for years? Then there's Cardinal Maradiaga whom the Soros Foundation people referred to as their link with the Pope. Maradiaga chose Georgetown to do the Vatican's launch of Amoris Laetitia in the US, and Podesta was chosen to be the first person to respond to Maradiaga's presentation. I recall seeing some Jesuit signatures on petitions from Catholics United - while, thanks to a faulty memory, I can't be certain, I'm pretty sure that one of those signatures was a J. Martin, SJ. Immediately after the 2013 Conclave, the hierarchy were spinning the line that the Cardinals had elected a complete unknown from the ends of the earth. Well, Pope Francis wasn't "unknown" to James Salt of Catholics United who said on a TV interview prior to the Conclave that Cardinal Bergoglio would be his ideal Pope. Those old reports will show George Soros hailing the Catholic Spring's strategy of downgrading abortion as an intrinsic evil and playing up Catholic care for the poor instead. You'll also find a report about Archbishop Chaput being targeted by the Catholic Spring crowd in their attempt to pressure him into supporting Obama's health care legislation forcing Catholic employers to pay for abortifacients. Coincidentally (or perhaps not) it was Archbishop Chaput whom Pope Francis singled out for mention when he complained to Archbishop Vigano about the US Bishops being too right wing. Here's some reading to refresh your memory: https://www.catholicworldreport.com/2016/10/13/fake-catholic-groups-and-the-catholic-spring-emails/ https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/...-network-saw-in-a-catholic-spring-group-75850 https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/...g-groups-undermine-the-catholic-bishops-34330 Plenty more here if you have the stomach for it: https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/results.php?cx=007820421237039855135:zb-m00qoyey&ie=UTF-8&q=Catholic+Spring&sa.x=0&sa.y=0 One of those Soros funded "Faith" groups got the red carpet treatment in the Vatican. They reported some Bishops devoting lots of time to them over a couple of days. They didn't get to meet the Pope (it was around the time of the Dubia controversy) but he did send them a special welcome greeting. In one of those reports, Archbishop Chaput is quoted as saying that he hadn't heard again from the pair who initially tried to get him to support Obama's health law. He presumed that they didn't regard the US Bishops as sufficiently useful to them. Perhaps he was right. Who needs a Bishop when the Pope is saying all the "right" things like, for example, "We don't need to talk about abortion all the time" and "Who am I to judge?" Had a group like Better Church Governance existed when the Catholic Spring crowd were doing their thing, we might indeed have a different Pope now. Incidentally, the Catholic World Report article implies that the Catholic Spring was Podesta's brainchild, but Podesta himself used the pronoun "we", suggesting that it was the offspring of more than his brain.
I believe he calls him a renegade priest He also makes mention by name of the "Remnant" who are left and that we must coalesce into a unified force.
If only! But Pope Clement was a Franciscan. Today's Franciscans are huge fans of the Jesuit Pope who took the name "Francis". You gotta hand it to the Jesuits for covering all their bases.
I think I just remembered what is said at Mass. Remember that I am in the Archdiocese of Washington, and after they name the Pope in the Canon of the Mass, they used to say "and Donald our Bishop." Now the priest says, "and Donald, our Apostolic Administrator." I am almost positive that's it.
Yes, I whole heartedly agree Dolours and I remember it very well with the wikileaks drops. The difference I think being that the BCG group would not have installed a pope as Mr Kurt Martins is implying but made easily accessible to all Catholics the road map to see any collusion behind such a choice which he is also saying also violates article 80 of the Apostolic Constitution. This was up to the lay Catholic to follow on their own and put the pieces of the puzzle together before this point and now BCG is organizing to help to do this as a movement. At least that is how I understand it.
That's how I understand it too, Don, and why I'm thinking of giving them the money I would have given to next Sunday's collection. Had that group been in existence, how many young seminarians could have been spared McCarrick's attention? And we might have been spared his influence in all sorts of areas. The underground Church in China might have been spared the recent sell-out. It's hard to believe, too, that McCarrick was the only deviant in the hierarchy. For example, there are plenty of rumours about a well placed Cardinal being in an ongoing homosexual relationship with an Anglican minister. How much influence does that Cardinal have on "who am I to judge" pastoral practices. What influence, if any, did he have at the recent Youth Synod? And could he be our next Pope? While I have some misgivings about such an organisation, there does seem to be a pressing need for it now because the hierarchy are either unwilling or unable to clean house. Better a Catholic group holding their feet to the fire than the current situation where the problems are only addressed if they get attention from the secular press or ambitious politicians.
At some point soon, we will all be under the "gun" of political correctness both in society and in church. The slightest astuteness to both leads one to see this with our own senses and when you add several current prophecies to this equation it is boldly apparent its only a matter of time, before all the structures around us have collapsed. I see this scorn of hatred for the truth within the church and society as a sure sign of the 'rising of the beast'. The "church becoming very small, but very holy" as Father Ratzinger (Pope Benedict) foretold in 1969, is allot like the 'frog in boiling water', where we have been wading in lukewarm water for decades and the temperature has been turned up since Pope Francis has come on the scene to where many are being boiled alive. A few have jumped out of the water before being boiled alive, but it seems we are in the deep minority now. As the church and world grow darker and darker we must double down on our rosaries and offer up our sufferings each day as we wade through our own agony in the garden. I think so few Catholics realize we are in the most biblical prophecised times in history. The old testament and the new testament are full of passages about our time. Jesus, Mary and Joseph pray for us.
No matter our differences faithful Catholics must and are coming together. The traditional Catholic community had for years been sounding the alarm and were often ridiculed and viewed as a "fringe" group. It is so heartening to see the divide between "traditional" and for lack of better words "faithful centrist" Catholics begin to disappear. It seems God is uniting all those with belief once more into One Faith! Not the many splintered factions we had become in the last half-century. Here is a wonderful and humble example of this coming together: https://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2018/11/the-francis-effect-beautiful-apology-to.html Those with eyes to see are seeing. Those with ears to hear are hearing
I merely posted the link to the article because Padraig had been discussing the Jesuits. Personally, I think that St Ignatius of Loyola must be horrified at what the Jesuits have turned out to be.
No. Padraig isnt 'conflating' he is simply confusing. conflate /kənˈfleɪt/ verb combine (two or more sets of information, texts, ideas, etc.) into one.
I have started listneing to Monsignor Pope. He seems to be a highly influential USA Churchman; the kind of person for instance Bishops and his fellow priests listen very closely too. A man of Wisdom and much esteemed. He gives both hope and a certain deep sadness. He is more nor less saying that most Catholics and clergy have fallen off the map but thsoe who are still Faithful, the Remant need to band and work together. This is very ,very prophetic , it goes so well with what the then Fr Ratzinger said. Hope in that at least many people realise Pope Francis is leading us all to hell and a great sadness that so many are very willing and happy to go the road to hell right alongside him. It reminds me of the story of the Pied Piper of Hamlyn. But over all I have reached such a state of desperation I am totally delighted to hear anyone speak out; Remnant or no Remnant.
I will keep it in mind, Dolores. I was thinking of the former master of the Domincans. I am sure there must be good Dominicans as I ams ure somewhere there are good Jesuits too....somehwere or other. https://catholictruthblog.com/tag/fr-timothy-radcliffe/ Tag Archives: fr timothy radcliffe Fr Timothy Radcliffe – Absolutely Shocking Papal Appointment May 16, 2015 By editor in Papacy, Politics, Pope Francis, Priesthood, same-sex marriage Tags: dissenter, fr timothy radcliffe 59 Comments One of the Church’s most controversial theologians, and a strong ally of Pope Francis, was given a boost by the Holy See Saturday. In a move sure to raise eyebrows among the Church’s traditional guard, Pope Francis named the Rev. Timothy Radcliffe a consultor to the Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace, the Vatican announced Saturday. The head of the Dominican Order for nearly a decade in the 1990s and a professor of theology at Oxford, the English-born Radcliffe has repeatedly challenged Catholic attitudes toward women, gays and lesbians, and the divorced. Last year, Radcliffe was at the center of a controversy over his invitation to speak at the International Conference of Divine Mercy, Ireland’s largest Catholic gathering. The American television network EWTN dropped plans to cover the event because of Radcliffe’s participation. A host at the station called Radcliffe’s views “at sharp variance to Catholic teaching.” The row was caused by comments Radcliffe made in 2013 about homosexuality, as reported by The Tablet. “Certainly it can be generous, vulnerable, tender, mutual, and non-violent. So in many ways, I would think that it can be expressive of Christ’s self-gift,” he said. He expressed surprise that his views caused such a stir, stating that they were “deeply in resonance with the teaching of Pope Francis.” Still, he has publicly supported the Church’s opposition to same-sex marriage, though for reasons not normally promulgated by Church officials. For example, in a December 2012 article in The Guardian, Radcliffe wrote, “It is heartening to see the wave of support for gay marriages. It shows a society that aspires to an open tolerance of all sorts of people, a desire for us to live together in mutual acceptance.” But, he said, a heterosexual notion of marriage should not be imposed on gay couples, though differences should be embraced. Tolerance, he wrote, “implies an attention to the particularity of the other person, a savoring of how he or she is unlike me, in their faith, their ethnicity, their sexual orientation. A society that flees difference and pretends we are all just the same may have outlawed intolerance in one form, and yet instituted it in other ways.” As a consultor to the Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace, Radcliffe is one of 40 or so people from around the globe who help “draw the broad lines of the action of the Counsel, according to their sensitivities and their professional and pastoral commitments,” according to the Vatican. He is the author of more than a half-dozen books and an internationally sought after speaker. His book “What is the Point of Being a Christian?” won the 2007 Michael Ramsey Prize, which is awarded by the Anglican Archbishop of Canterbury for the “most promising contemporary theological writing from the global Church.” The release of Edwards’ work is more than a historical contribution. It comes at a moment of renewed interest in the preacher, especially among conservative evangelicals and “New Calvinists.” (Wikimedia Commons) Jonathan Edwards’ collected works now available for download Pope to theologians: Listen to the ordinary faithful Radcliffe, ordained in 1971, is also a proponent of opening up to communion to divorced and remarried Catholics, currently a hot topic among bishops participating in the Synod on the Family. In a 2013 essay in America magazine, Radcliffe wrote that he held “two profound hopes. That a way will be found to welcome divorced and remarried people back to communion. And, most important, that women will be given real authority and voice in the Church. The pope expresses his desire that this may happen, but what concrete form can it take?” Regarding the role of women in the Church, Radcliffe is in line with Pope Francis, who has said no to women’s ordination but who nonetheless wants women to hold positions of authority. Radcliffe lamented what he sees as a stronger fusion between ordination and decision-making offices in the Church. “I think the women’s ordination question has become more acute now because the Church has become more clerical than in my childhood,” Radcliffe said in a 2010 interview with US Catholic. Radcliffe has pushed for a more open Church, along the lines of Pope Francis’ assertion that the Church be willing to “make a mess of things.” “Jesus offered a wide hospitality, and ate and drank with all sorts of people. We need to embody his open heart rather than retreat into a Catholic ghetto,” Radcliffe said in a 2013 interview. Catholic bishops from around the world will gather in Rome in October for the second part of a contentious debate about family issues in the Church. Source Comment: It’s very clear indeed now, that to be “a priest in good standing” means “be opposed to all that is truly Catholic – and that includes true morals.” How can any Catholic fail to see the diabolical influence apparently holding sway over the current holder of the papal office? We must, really must, pray very hard for Pope Francis while continuing to highlight and resist his scandalous utterances, actions and Vatican appointments. This latest one is a scandal too far, unjustifiable, as it is, by any and every objective and measurable standard. Fr Timothy Radcliffe is about as Catholic as the two priests featured on a recent thread who plan to vote YES in the Irish referendum on same-sex “marriage”. That’s how “Catholic” is Fr Radcliffe. Anyone who disagrees, speak now or forever hold your peace…
Reading your forensic analysis of the global forces focussing on the Vatican at the times preceding and succeeding the last conclave and the Trump election, the first things that came to my mind were those bizarre 'Pizzagate' rumours, which concerned allegations of a sinister paedophile ring. I would have thought that, as nothing concrete came of them, they were exaggerated or even entirely spurious, but in the present context it seems plausible to consider that the specific content of the rumours is quite coincidental.
Not at all, I've often been guilty myself and we're not the only ones. There is a similarity in the names and the two are often involved in the same controversies, though on different sides. Screwtape probably has a specific demon assigned to fomenting this mix-up in peoples' heads.
