Yes, he sure knew how to get his message across. While hinting at secrets and giving out just enough information to have people looking for more probably served to promote his books and keep him on the interview circuit, it can be a bit annoying. Some of his predictions were uncannily accurate. I remember reading a comment on the forum about Fr. Martin having said that Ukraine would play a pivotal role in the future. He mentioned Ukraine in that video. (Not sure because it was such a long video, but I think he specifically mentioned Kiev.) He was actually quoting Pope John Paul with regard to Ukraine and then I think he said that he couldn't go into any further for fear of violating secrecy. I wondered whether that was something to do with Fatima. Then again, he might have wanted to give the impression that it was linked to Fatima when it wasn't.
Carol, where did I question the validity of Pope Paul VI? With all due respect, if you would like to know the answer, maybe you could write to them. Padre Pio was not celebrating the Novus Ordo mass in that video. It was the TLM except for the fact that he was ordered to do it versus populum instead of ad orientem. "Sunday, September 22nd finally arrived, the day set for the grand celebration to honor the fifty years Padre Pio had borne the stigmata. Countless thousands, including representatives from hundreds of prayer groups, were in San Giovanni. All the hotels and inns had been booked three months ago. The Casa was festooned with lights and banners. A large platform for the featured speakers stood in the church square, and a huge wooden cross was erected overlooking the plaza. Everyone was in a festive mood except the humble Padre himself, who said to his superior, "I am so confused that I should like to run and hide." Athough still very weak, he was feeling a little better that morning, and entered the sacristy at 4:30 am to prepare for the 5:00 Mass. But he was to receive a surprise: the superior of the monastery, Padre Carmelo, asked him to sing a solemn High Mass in honor of the Prayer Group convention. Pio complained that it would be too tiring for him, but he resigned himself to obey when Padre Carmelo insisted: "Those are the orders." Soon the doors of the church were opened, and an immense crowd surged forward. People were packed into every corner, and those who could not gain entrance were forced to stand outside in the piazza. According to the friary chronicles for that day, "The crowd seemed to be delirious with joy on seeing him and on celebrating his feast day, and silence and order was obtained not with a little difficulty." Two priests helped him to the altar, and he was seated facing the worshippers as he began the Mass. Catholic Masses by this time were now being said in a new format, and in the native tongue instead of Latin. However, Padre Pio had a dispensation to perform the ceremony in the traditional Tridentine rite that he had used throughout his life, with the exception that he was to face the people instead of the altar. As a concession to his age and frailty, he was permitted to perform the Mass seated." http://www.sanpadrepio.com/excerpt.htm
I found a video pertaining to the part of the talk you referenced. Interestingly the blue in Russia's flag is in honor of Our Lady. As far as I know it is the only country in the world with that distinction. Here is the video:
Sg, you did post an article raising the possibility that Pius XII was the last Pope. If true, that would make Paul VI invalid. I think it may have been deleted. You have also posted content hinting that John XXIII could have been either in league with Freemasons, or a communist sympathizer, or both. Page 466. The Church is in an extremely fragile and delicate place right now. Such speculation can be damaging. To others' faith, or to our own. I hear you, it is clear that since Vatican II, a great number of heresies and compromises have entered in. But imho that is due to the opportunistic scheming of heretics hijacking a good council rather than to Vatican II itself AND the fact that Russia was not consecrated on time, and imho has not been properly consecrated yet. Sg, we can not go back in time. We have the present. Endless theorizing about the past can be a distraction. I am not even old enough to remember the Church before the 1980's. That is the only Catholic Church I know. It is the Catholic Church we have today. We can stand by Her or be part and parcel, without realizing it, of trying to rip her apart.
Yes that part of Malachi Martin is posted in various cut off videos about Fatima. The original interview was given to Art Bell on Coast to Coast AM in 1997 with other two interviews in 1996 and 1998 (I might be wrong about which one of the three years is that interview). Malachi Martin said the salvation of the world is coming thru Russia and Kiev. He didn't say Ukraine but Kiev. He repeated Kiev twice. And Russia too. In Kiev is the Kiev Lavra https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiev_Pechersk_Lavra one of the most holy places in the Russian Orthodoxy. And one of the only 3 places that the Russian mystic in 19th century St Seraphim of Sarov predicted that will be lifted up to heaven during the persecution of the Antichrist (the other being Kazan shrine, and the third one he didn't name it, may be because it is in the Western Christianity). I want to say something about the pope and the cardinals. Whatever your views are, the pope is one very old and ill person. Whether he will continue for several more years, or will resign as he said before, only God knows. Let pray for him and for the cardinals, and for the new cardinals that will be appointed before the next conclave. So the next conclave elects a very holy pope who will return the things back to holiness, starting with consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary. Reportedly, Putin wanted that consecration. No need of demonization of Russia. It is a chosen nation that once fully converted it will bring down the grace of God thru Mary needed for the (physical) salvation of the world and entering the era of peace. Seems God's choice is that, as Malachi Martin said in that interview, he himself wouldn't choose Russia if he had to make that choice, but that was the choice made by God similar to the one in the Old Testament for Israel...I may misspell some of the things, I listened it long ago. Better listen the interview and reflect on it. There is much to be reflected, including of the Three Days of Darkness that he said, were spiritual danger not physical, and connected it to the nature of angelic and demons that no one of the people can understand even the clever ones. I forgot was it in the same interview, certainly in one of the three.
gracia, Very well said and thank you. Sg, gracia answered your first question above. I am not going to reach out to EWTN at this time to question them about the two versions of that letter but I may contact the source of the letter and ask them directly. If I receive an answer I will post it on the forum but I'm not sure that you are interested in this based on other statements that you made on this thread. Personally, I don't need proof that the Novus Ordo mass is valid but we are certain that Pope Saint John Paul II and Blessed Pope Paul VI who will be canonized on October 14, 2018 both celebrated the Novus Ordo mass. Edited to add: Regarding Padre Pio saying the Novus Ordo mass I found the following statement on another blog, Catholic Answers, but I also now realize that this greatly debated across the internet. "He died before the final reforms of Paul VI (he died in 1968, Missale Romanum was issued in 1969) As you can see here, he did celebrate Mass facing the people using some of the earlier post-Concillar reformed liturgical texts: youtube.com/watch?v=dlT9qwmzE7U 37 (Part I) youtube.com/watch?v=QX15Hk3gM9c 12 (Part II)".
Like I have said a couple of times before, I had brought up the article about Pope Pius XII (where he was supposed to have said that he was the last pope) for discussion. I began by asking, "What do you all think...?" I had thought that discussion was allowed on a forum. To accuse me of questioning the validity of Pope Paul VI simply because I brought that topic up for discussion, is being duplicitous. I have already referred to him celebrating versus populum instead of ad orientem in that video you posted earlier. Looking at the video itself, he was celebrating the TLM.
I am not sure what solid proof you believe can be found for something Padre Pio was reported to have said to Fr Luigi Villa. I can only try to show that someone as respected as Dr Alice von Hildebrand thought that Fr Luigi Villa was someone trustworthy. Likewise her highly respected husband. Her husband Dr Dietrich von Hildebrand became the deputy director of the magazine Chiesa Viva which was founded by Dr Luigi Villa. Dr Dietrich von Hildebrand was called by Pope Pius XII “the 20th Century Doctor of the Church". He was one of the world’s most eminent Catholic philosophers. Cardinal Ratzinger (Pope Benedict) wrote about Dietrich von Hildebrand in the year 2000: “I am firmly convinced that, when at some time in the future, the intellectual history of the Catholic Church in the 20th century is written, the name of Dietrich von Hildebrand will be most prominent among the figures of our time.”
It's hard to imagine what an old priest went through after a lifetime of facing the alter of Our Lord and then being made to turn and face the congregation to celebrate Mass. This to me seems horribly wrong and is one amid a myriad of reasons I do not personally favor the ordinary form of the Mass. I don't dispute it I just don't like it.
I am quite puzzled that there is so much resistance or seeming unhappiness about what I have questioned/ posted. We know that in prophecies given in Quito, La Salette, Akita, Tre Fontane, Fatima etc etc the Church is going to be attacked and the priests are going to fall. Fr Amorth said that Padre Pio was greatly troubled because the Third Secret of Fatima pertained to the infiltration of the Vatican by Satan and the rise of a 'false church'.
It is like this: If my city were destroyed by a hurricane, I, together with my fellow citizens, could decide to just carry on living with the rubble, OR we could begin to clear the rubble and rebuild the city to its former glory. I am choosing the latter.
Yes, that's the part. Pope John Paul was still living when that interview was recorded, and Fr. Martin appeared to be expecting something to happen during the Pope's lifetime - that the Pope's destiny was tied up with Kiev and Russia. I distinctly heard him say that Pope John Paul had told him this. He didn't say that it was part of the Fatima secret but that saying anything more would betray "papal secrets". Nothing happened and we've had two Popes since then. Something else I found interesting in the longer video was his distinction between Communism and Marxism - that it's Marxism which has spread throughout the world but that Communism is an economic system and has failed. That made sense to me although, to be honest, my knowledge of either Marxism or Communism would fit on the back of a postage stamp. I'm not always convinced that Malachi Martin was the committed traditionalist that he portrayed himself to be. There are times I have a niggling suspicion that some of it could have an act - a kind of embellishment to fit the image. You can take the man out of the Jesuits but can you take the Jesuit out of the man? Anyway, whatever anyone's opinion of him, there's no denying that he was spot on about the Jesuit betrayal. A person would have to be blind not to see it. We can only hope that his predictions in the interview about the enemies of the Church working to get one of their own into the papacy hasn't been realised by a Jesuit. Contrast what Fr. Malachi Martin wrote about St. Ignatius Loyola as quoted in this review of his book on the Jesuits : http://corjesusacratissimum.org/2011/05/book-review-the-jesuits-malachi-martin/with what Jesuit and the Pope's favourite Fr. James Martin said about Thomas Merton here: https://www.loyolapress.com/our-cat...ections/thomas-merton-a-man-of-contradictions When I read what Malachi Martin wrote about St. Ignatius I was reminded of the Superior General of the Jesuits saying that Satan is not a real being but an early Christian construct to explain evil.
Yes Sg, it seems that the church has suffered a hurricane and now lays in rubble! This of course was done by satan who did this hatchet job and tried to destroy the Holy Catholic church! But so far he has failed! Where I live most Catholics can not attend the Glorious TLM, as it is only offered on every third Saturday of the month in a distant parish. Like most Catholics here on the MOG forum, I yearn to see my church restored to her former Glory, to hear the angelic Latin of my youth, where Our Lord receives the reverence He deserves in every aspect of the Mass. But Alas we faithful Catholics are forced to pick our way through the rubble of the valid Novus Ordo mass, when we attend Sunday and week day masses. And, low and behold! we find Jesus waiting there for us! He may be covered in the dust from the rubble of the Novus Ordo mass but it is Him, it is Our Lord! What manner of person would leave him there alone? Waiting, pining, loving? Not us, the rubble pickers!..... because we get to worship! to adore! to make reparation! to praise and honour and to receive Our Lord Jesus who is the same yesterday, today and always! Our Lord Jesus is the same King of Kings and the same Lord of Lords present at the TLM and the NOM,
This is a new article on Fr Richard Heilman's site. (Emphasis in blue is mine). https://www.romancatholicman.com/archbishop-fulton-sheen-prophesy-condition-church-today-2/ Did Archbishop Fulton Sheen Prophesy About the Condition of Our Church Today? Fr Richard Heilman Up until recent years, I was completely unaware of this prophecy attributed to Our Lady of Good Success, but many years prior to that, I had been saying that “something happened … something erupted in the 1960s …” “Thus I make it known to you that from the end of the 19th century and shortly after the middle of the 20th century…the passions will erupt and there will be a total corruption of morals… As for the Sacrament of Matrimony, which symbolizes the union of Christ with His Church, it will be attacked and deeply profaned. Freemasonry, which will then be in power, will enact iniquitous laws with the aim of doing away with this Sacrament, making it easy for everyone to live in sin and encouraging procreation of illegitimate children born without the blessing of the Church … In this supreme moment of need for the Church, the one who should speak will fall silent.” -Our Lady of Good Success “Shortly after the middle of the 20th century” … most certainly points to the infamous anti-authority, pro-hedonism 1960s, that ushered in unparalleled self-indulgent (the essence of the demonic) sexual revolution into our world. In the midst of this, our Church has not only suffered unprecedented losses in the sheer number of souls, but we are witnessing an epidemic of liturgical abuse and rampant sacrilege. In an article that speaks to this, I called this a “Stealth Arianism.” Many claim we very well could be in the throes of what is termed, “The Great Apostasy.” Pope Benedict XVI said, “the true problem of our times is the ‘Crisis of God,’ the absence of God, disguised by an empty religiosity” (emptied of its divine content) … a kind of lukewarm, going through the motions of one’s faith (It’s No Big Deal), which ends up collapsing completely. Did Archbishop Fulton Sheen prophesy about the condition of our Church today? “[Satan] will set up a counterchurch which will be the ape of the [Catholic] Church … It will have all the notes and characteristics of the Church, but in reverse and emptied of its divine content.” We are living in the days of the Apocalypse, the last days of our era. The two great forces – the Mystical Body of Christ and the Mystical Body of the anti-Christ – are beginning to draw battle lines for the catastrophic contest. The False prophet will have a religion without a cross. A religion without a world to come. A religion to destroy religions. There will be a counterfeit Church. Christ’s Church the Catholic Church will be one; and the false Prophet will create the other. The False Church will be worldly, ecumenical, and global. It will be a loose federation of churches and religions, forming some type of global association. A world parliament of Churches. It will be emptied of all Divine content, it will be the mystical body of the anti-christ. The Mystical Body on earth today will have its Judas Iscariot, and he will be the false prophet. Satan will recruit him from our Bishops. The Antichrist will not be so called; otherwise he would have no followers. He will not wear red tights, nor vomit sulphur, nor carry a trident nor wave an arrowed tail as Mephistopheles in Faust. This masquerade has helped the Devil convince men that he does not exist. When no man recognizes, the more power he exercises. God has defined Himself as “I am Who am,” and the Devil as “I am who am not.” Nowhere in Sacred Scripture do we find warrant for the popular myth of the Devil as a buffoon who is dressed like the first “red.” Rather is he described as an angel fallen from heaven, as “the Prince of this world,” whose business it is to tell us that there is no other world. His logic is simple: if there is no heaven there is no hell; if there is no hell, then there is no sin; if there is no sin, then there is no judge, and if there is no judgment then evil is good and good is evil. But above all these descriptions, Our Lord tells us that he will be so much like Himself that he would deceive even the elect–and certainly no devil ever seen in picture books could deceive even the elect. How will he come in this new age to win followers to his religion? The pre-Communist Russian belief is that he will come disguised as the Great Humanitarian; he will talk peace, prosperity and plenty not as means to lead us to God, but as ends in themselves … The third temptation in which Satan asked Christ to adore him and all the kingdoms of the world would be His, will become the temptation to have a new religion without a Cross, a liturgy without a world to come, a religion to destroy a religion, or a politics which is a religion–one that renders unto Caesar even the things that are God’s. In the midst of all his seeming love for humanity and his glib talk of freedom and equality, he will have one great secret which he will tell to no one: he will not believe in God. Because his religion will be brotherhood without the fatherhood of God, he will deceive even the elect. He will set up a counterchurch which will be the ape of the Church, because he, the Devil, is the ape of God. It will have all the notes and characteristics of the Church, but in reverse and emptied of its divine content. It will be a mystical body of the Antichrist that will in all externals resemble the mystical body of Christ … But the twentieth century will join the counterchurch because it claims to be infallible when its visible head speaks ex cathedra from Moscow on the subject of economics and politics, and as chief shepherd of world communism.” (Fulton J. Sheen, Communism and the Conscience of the West [Bobbs-Merril Company, Indianapolis, 1948], pp. 24-25) Pray for the Catholic Church!
Josephite, we know he will never succeed. We have our Lord's word for it - the gates of hell will not prevail... But of course that means that satan will, and indeed has been, trying very hard to do so. I hear you and I understand. Even in Singapore where I live, we have the TLM only once a week, on Sundays at 6pm. So, I too, daily assist at the NO mass. Some of the NO masses I went to when overseas (Europe and USA) left me wondering about the validity.
Archbishop McCarrick to lead life of prayer, penance at Kansas friary Salina, Kan., Sep 28, 2018 / 10:01 am (CNA/EWTN News).- Archbishop Theodore McCarrick has begun his life of prayer and penance at St. Fidelis Capuchin Friary in Victoria, Kansas, according to statements from the Diocese of Salina and the Archdiocese of Washington. McCarrick was sentenced to a life of prayer and penance by Pope Francis July 28, pending the completion of a canonical process against him, after he was credibly accused of sexually abusing a minor. After the accusation became public, he then resigned from the College of Cardinals in July, becoming the first American cardinal ever to step down. It also came to light that the Archdiocese of Newark and the Diocese of Metuchen had previously reached out-of-court settlements with several adult men who alleged they were sexually abused by McCarrick during their time as seminarians. Cardinal Donald Wuerl of Washington, Bishop Gerald L. Vincke of Salina, and Father Christopher Popravek, the provincial of the Capuchin Friary in Denver, made the arrangements to house McCarrick for his potentially indefinite stay. MORE: https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/...life-of-prayer-penance-at-kansas-friary-12363
Cupich, Chaput joust over working document for Synod of Bishops NEW YORK - Ahead of next week’s start to the much-anticipated month-long gathering of bishops in Rome, two American delegates have already preempted the debate by publishing an exchange on the guiding document for the meetings. Correspondence between Cardinal Blase Cupich of Chicago and Archbishop Charles Chaput was published in First Things, a conservative journal on religion, in response to a September 21 column by Chaput that included a 1,300 word critique of the Instrumentem Laboris, the synod’s working document, sent to Chaput by a “respected North American theologian” and published anonymously in his article. In the original commentary, the theologian faulted the document for its “pervasive focus on socio-cultural elements, to the exclusion of deeper religious and moral issues,” and four areas in which the author enumerated criticisms: “An inadequate grasp of the Church’s spiritual authority;” “A partial theological anthropology;” “A relativistic conception of vocation;” and “An impoverished understanding of Christian joy.” In addition, the theologian claimed “there are other serious theological concerns, including: a false understanding of the conscience and its role in the moral life; a false dichotomy proposed between truth and freedom; false equivalence between dialogue with LGBT youth and ecumenical dialogue; and an insufficient treatment of the abuse scandal.” Chaput said the critique that he chose to publish was one of many he received, and added, “it is substantive enough to warrant much wider consideration and discussion as bishop-delegates prepare to engage the synod’s theme.” In his letter to the editors of the journal published Friday, Cupich fired back that the original critique “represents a woeful lack of understanding of magisterial teaching.” He also charged that the anonymous author “falsifies the truth” and engaged in “false reporting,” by selecting certain portions without putting it in the larger context of the entire working document, which runs some 30,000 words. In addition, he said the theologian’s critique distorts truth and “shows condescension toward the issues raised by the bishops’ conferences of the world on which the IL [Instrumentum Laboris] is based.” He also questioned the use of “anonymous criticism,” saying that it does not lead to healthy discourse. “The mature vision of Donum Veritatis (“On the Ecclesial Vocation of the Theologian”), speaks of dialogue that is public and forthright in the search for truth, generous in spirit, fair in critique and balanced in tone,” he wrote. “The anonymous critique published by First Things rejects these elements, substituting selectivity, condescension, and the deployment of partial truths to obfuscate the fullness of truth.” Cupich concluded by quoting from the Declaration on Religious Freedom Dignitatis Humanae, from the Second Vatican Council, which St. Pope John Paul II also cited in his 1995 encyclical Ut Unum Sint: “Truth … is to be sought after in a manner proper to the dignity of the human person and his social nature. The inquiry is to be free, carried on with the aid of teaching or instruction, communication and dialogue, in the course of which men explain to one another the truth they have discovered, or think they have discovered, in order thus to assist one another in the quest for truth. Moreover, as the truth is discovered, it is by a personal assent that individuals are to adhere to it.’” He added, “What is needed is a concern for the Church that is animated by a love for truth. What is needed is the spirit of synodality that Pope Francis has made the very heart of the Church’s upcoming moment of dialogue and teaching in search of ways to bring the Gospel of Jesus Christ to the next generations.” Chaput’s response said the anonymous criticism he chose to publish was “among the most charitable” he’s received. “A synod’s Instrumentum is always - or at least should always be - a work in progress, open to discussion and adjustment by the Synod Fathers. I’m sure we can count on that process in the upcoming synod conversation,” he continued. While he said that he agreed that anonymous sources “can be regrettable,” he defended his publishing of it by saying that “the toxic environment in many of our academic communities makes them necessary.” More than 300 cardinals, bishops, priests, religious and lay participants from every region around the world will participate in the upcoming Synod on Young People, Faith, and Vocational Discernment. Chaput was elected by the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) last November to represent the USCCB at the October meeting, however, he is also a member of the synod’s permanent council. In addition, he will be joined by Cardinal Daniel DiNardo, president of the USCCB; Archbishop Jose Gomez, vice-president of the USCCB; Bishop Frank Caggiano of Bridgeport, Connecticut; auxiliary Bishop Robert Barron of Los Angeles. Cupich, along with Cardinal Joseph Tobin of Newark, were named by Pope Francis earlier this month as special papal delegates to the Synod. Tobin has since withdrawn citing the need to stay home in his diocese as it recovers from this summer’s continual fallout over Archbishop Theodore McCarrick, who led the archdiocese from 1986-2000 and this summer resigned from the College of Cardinals after revelations that he was a serial abuser of seminarians and at least one minor. The Synod of Bishops officially begins on Wednesday, October 3 and will run through October 28. https://cruxnow.com/church-in-the-u...t-over-working-document-for-synod-of-bishops/
