The Vatican Has Fallen

Discussion in 'Church Critique' started by padraig, Dec 31, 2016.

  1. SteveD

    SteveD Powers

    It just gets worse and worse and worse and worse.

     
  2. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

    After listening to an interview of the author of The Dictator Pope it seems he seriously nailed it.
     
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  3. Donna259

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  4. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Such an infestation of evil at that school
     
  5. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

    Yep.

    hold fast - Copy.jpg
     
  6. AED

    AED Powers

    :(
     
  7. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Truly awful
     
  8. Sam

    Sam Powers

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  9. HeavenlyHosts

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  10. Forever Bono!! ha!


    U2′s Bono says pope’s “aghast” about church sex abuse
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    U2 rock band frontman Bono Vox talks to reporters during a press conference he held at the end of a meeting with Pope Francis, at the Vatican, Wednesday, Sept. 19, 2018. (AP Photo/Andrew Medichini)

    VATICAN CITY (AP) — U2 frontman Bono has described Pope Francis as being “aghast” about sex abuse in the Catholic Church.

    The Irish singer met privately with Francis on Wednesday at the Vatican hotel where the pope lives, to discuss themes that Bono told reporters included “the wild beast that is capitalism” and sustainable development.

    Bono said that because Francis visited Ireland recently, they spoke about the pontiff’s “feelings about what has happened in the church.” The Irish church’s reputation is stained by cases of pedophile priests and systematic abuse cover-ups.

    Bono said he told Francis how it looks to some that abusers are more protected than victims and “you can see the pain in his face, and I felt he was sincere.”

    Francis is under pressure to reveal what he knew about abusers.
     
  11. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

    lol I can't believe they trotted Bono out for this!

    :LOL:
     
  12. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Birds of a feather?
     
  13. SgCatholic

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    I feel a sense of urgency within me with all the horrific news about wayward and downright evil clergy that keep pouring out.
    Why are the good clergy not coming together to act now? Just waiting for God to act? Or perhaps they are already beginning to gather in secret to outline a plan?
    What do you think?
     
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  14. SgCatholic

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    The fact that the Abp was feeling ill immediately after the miracle seems a bit ominous :cautious:

    Dramatic Video: Blood of St Januarius liquefies once again in Naples Cathedral…Cardinal falls ill at Miracle
    ryanmysticpostSeptember 19, 2018

    ANSA) – Naples, September 19 – Naples Archbishop Cardinal Crescenzio Sepe had a bad turn as he was officiating over the San Gennaro miracle Wednesday.
    Perhaps because of the heat in the cathedral, Sepe blanched and had to sit down.
    He was urged to leave the altar, but refused.
    However, he was unable to carry the ampoule with the saint’s newly liquified blood out into the square to show the assembled dignitaries and townsfolk.
     
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  15. AED

    AED Powers

    I just don’t know. I pray they are coming together. I hope so. I just don’t have a clue. God save us!
     
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  16. SgCatholic

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    Imho, it is worth one's time to read the article that is linked to in the post above:

    The Omission of “Difficult” Psalms and the Spreading-Thin of the Psalter
    https://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2016/11/the-omission-of-difficult-psalms-and.html

    It helps to open one's eyes to the devastation brought about by the changes after Vatican II.
     
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  17. Is St. Januarius, with his blood initiating such human reaction in the religious representative, adding to the various warnings of nature's rebellion against man's sin via the volcanoes, and telling us that for the moment there is still time before the coming times of such rumblings and shakes intended for such geographical places?
     
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  18. SgCatholic

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    One wonders....

    The Cardinal 'blanched' - it reminds me of Pope Leo XIII and his vision. I wonder if something similar happened here.
     
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  19. SgCatholic

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    Young Priests Lament Sex Abuse Scandal, Question Youth Synod
    Open letter to synod bishops: 'We believe that shining a light on these scandals, painful as it may be, is the only path to healing for the Church'
    https://www.churchmilitant.com/news...-priests-sex-abuse-scandal-and-synod-on-youth
    by David Nussman • ChurchMilitant.com • September 19, 2018 44 Comments

    DETROIT (ChurchMilitant.com) - Young priests in the United States are voicing their concerns about the sex abuse crisis and the upcoming Synod on Youth.

    Eight priests signed their names to an open letter published online by First Things on Wednesday. Addressing the bishops who will be attending the Synod, the letter states, "We wish to express our concern about the unfolding crisis of sexual abuse in the Church, especially the Church in the United States. Specifically, we are concerned about how this crisis relates to the Synod on the Faith, Young People, and Vocational Discernment, which is to take place in Rome in October."

    Given the recent explosion of reports on clerical sex abuse of minors, the signatories argue that "the Synod on Young People comes, to say the least, at an inopportune moment."

    The letter says of the sex abuse scandal, "The lay faithful, whom we promised at our ordinations to pray for and serve unceasingly in the name of Christ and his Church, are wounded by these scandals and wondering whom to trust. Many young Catholics are particularly shaken. We stand with them in their anger, horror, and dismay."

    "We believe that shining a light on these scandals, painful as it may be, is the only path to healing for the Church," they wrote.

    The young clergy also raise serious concerns about the Instrumentum Laboris, or "working document" for the Youth Synod. "The Synod's Instrumentum Laboris," they write to the bishops, "concedes too much to the sexual revolution, which has caused such great harm to young people."

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    "We have grown up," the priests wrote, "in a culture hostile to all that the Church proposes: the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ; the truths contained within Scripture; and the Church's tradition as handed down from the Apostles until today, including her moral witness."

    The letter continues:

    When we read the Instrumentum Laboris, we do not find an extensive analysis of models that have proved successful in forming young people in the faith. Nor do we find guidance on how the socio-cultural concerns of young people can be raised and oriented toward a supernatural end. We find instead vague references to "some young people" who wish for this or that part of the Church's teaching to change. But we know many young people who do not want the Church's teachings to change, who instead want them proclaimed more vigorously — precisely because they see them as the antidote to the cultural wasteland in which we live. For this reason, we believe the Instrumentum needs substantial rethinking and revision.

    These priests are not the first to voice concerns about the upcoming Youth Synod. As they note, several prominent Church leaders have called for the Synod to be canceled — or at least postponed — owing to the current clerical sex abuse scandal.

    Four of the eight priests signing the letter are from dioceses in Pennsylvania — three stationed in parishes, one studying in Rome. The Pennsylvania grand jury report, released last month, shed light on allegations of child sex abuse by about 300 priests across six of the state's eight dioceses.

    The Synod's Instrumentum Laboris concedes too much to the sexual revolution, which has caused such great harm to young people.Tweet
    Earlier this year when the Instrumentum was first published, there were complaints from some young Catholics that traditional-minded and theologically orthodox voices were getting marginalized.

    There was a Youth Pre-Synod in March, where some 300 young people from around the globe gathered in Rome to draft the Instrumentum Laboris. The Pre-Synod's organizers in some countries used online surveys and social media interactions to gauge young people's opinions, which would then get represented in the working document.

    Supporters of traditional liturgy felt their voice was left out of the Pre-Synod, despite how outspoken they were in the Pre-Synod's surveys and Facebook groups. Even one of the writers of the Instrumentum noted the discrepancy, saying, "There was a huge online community asking for the Extraordinary Form to be represented in the document, and I realized going through these comments that we, as a writing team, had not been shown the wealth of online commenting."

    "I was saddened to see that many in this group felt disheartened or not listened to," he said.

    One young, traditional-minded Catholic named John Monaco penned an open letterto Pope Francis about the concerns of young, faithful Catholics. The letter stated, "If the 1960s youth were marked by a sense of rebellion and anarchy, the youth of today desire stability, orthodoxy and order."

    It noted the growing interest in the Traditional Latin Mass among the young, saying, "Tradition is for the young. Many of us find ourselves attending the Traditional Latin Mass for its sublime beauty, rich symbolism and unquestionable sense of sacred worship."

    Monaco's letter to the Pope had three specific points. The first was claiming that today's young Catholics long for tradition and stability. The second was a call for theological orthodoxy and strong catechesis. The third and final point was arguing that young people should receive more help with vocational discernment.
     
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  20. Talk about snowflakes!

    ‘Vice Pope’ Says Cardinal McCarrick’s Homosexual Abuse Was a ‘Private Matter’

    Papal adviser Cardinal Oscar Rodriguez Maradiaga said last week that Cardinal Theodore McCarrick’s serial sex abuse and the way the pope handled it is a “private matter” that should not be treated as a sensational story.

    “Turning a private matter into a bombshell headline that explodes in the world and whose shrapnel does damage to the faith of many people does not seem right,” the Honduran cardinal said in reference to a recent report by the former papal nuncio to the United States.

    “I think that a management issue ought to be aired with more serene and objective criteria, not in a negative tone charged with very bitter expressions,” said Maradiaga, who is often referred to as Francis’ “vice pope” because of his position of prominence in the Vatican and his unparalleled influence in the Francis pontificate.

    The cardinal’s comments were made in reference to an August 25 report by Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò, in which the former nuncio accused Pope Francis of rehabilitating Cardinal McCarrick and elevating him to a position of influence despite knowledge of his serial homosexual abuse over decades.

    Archbishop Viganò said that he personally informed Francis in 2013 that Pope Benedict had imposed sanctions on McCarrick for his abuse and yet Francis lifted those sanctions and made McCarrick a consultor for the naming of American bishops.

    Francis “continued to cover for him,” Viganò stated.

    In past months, the 75-year-old Cardinal Maradiaga has had his own share of problems. He has faced a string of accusations involving financial mismanagement and embezzlement of funds, protecting a sexually abusive bishop, and covering up a homosexual “epidemic” in his diocesan seminary.

    A letter signed by 48 seminarians and recently made public complains of widespread homosexual activity in the country’s major seminary, which has grown to the point of an “epidemic.”

    One of the seminarians who signed the letter said homosexuality in the seminary “has proliferated in the past few years” because of an ongoing cover-up by Cardinal Maradiaga.

    “The problem is that Cardinal Maradiaga is Pope Francis’s right hand. I think he has been lying to the Pope. The bishops here do not have power. They are afraid of the Cardinal, and too timid to make a decision,” the seminarian told the National Catholic Register.

    https://www.breitbart.com/national-...rricks-homosexual-abuse-was-a-private-matter/
     
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