Yes this is inline with Fr. Schweigel . The Third Secret and Its Two Parts In fact, when the Pope said the Third Secret is spoken and shown, his words correlate with other proofs that this last Secret is comprised of two parts. To cite only one example, this essay will momentarily turn to what was said decades ago by Fr. Joseph Schweigel. This priest, upon his return from an important mission given to him by Pope Pius XII to question Sr. Lucia about unfulfilled parts of the Fatima Message (the Third Secret, the consecration of Russia, etc.),was momentarily questioned by a curious colleague about the Third Secret. Fr. Schweigel responded in the following manner: “I cannot reveal anything of what I learned at Fatima concerning the third Secret, but I can say that it has two parts: one concerns the Pope. The other, logically – although I can say nothing – would have to be the continuation of the words: In Portugal, the dogma of the Faith will always be preserved.” The colleague pressed a little further, asking, “The present Pope or the next one?”However, as the interrogator himself attested in a written letter, “To this question, Fr. Schweigel made no reply.” Only a few years later, Fr. Schweigel would also say that the Third Secret “seems to suppose a victorious, triumphant, but difficult and heroic decision” of a Pope’s. In considering the purpose of Fr. Schweigel’s papally-directed mission in questioning Sr. Lucia and in light of the tragic circumstances in which the Church Militant finds itself today, one can reasonably presume that, sometime in the future, a Pope will make a “difficult and heroic decision” under circumstances in which he faces vehement, if not physically violent, opposition to his unique prerogatives in his office as Vicar of Christ when he decides to comply with at least one, if not all, of Our Lady’s unfulfilled requests at Fatima.
So we await a Pope who will make a difficult decision. Whatever the decision is, it probably leads to this.... One day, she told Lucia, “I saw the Holy Father in a very big house on his knees in front of a table with his head between his hands, and crying. Outside, there was a big crowd. Some were throwing stones at him, others were shouting insults at him and were saying bad words to him. Poor Holy Father! We have to pray a lot for him!”
The more I study this it seems the less we know. I think prophecy is only there to let us know the general idea of what is going on, not the timing or duration of events (with a few exceptions). It seems purposely designed that way. Just a few years ago when I joined the forum I thought I could study prophecy and write out a "road map" of what was coming. I thought some grand event would "happen". Some trigger, and this would lead to a cascade of rapid events such as nuclear war, deadly plagues, and religious persecution - all within a few years. The more I see what is happening and study prophecy though I think we may be in for a much longer haul than I had expected. Maybe decades or even longer. The Arian crisis was long and drawn out. I don't think this will be as long as that was, but I think it very likely that events will unfold over a period of long years. To be clear I think we are already in the Chastisement. I just don't think it will be a short run thing. There are many prophecies that refer to Popes going through difficult sufferings guiding the flock during the Chastisement and they don't seem to fit the Pope we have now. I think this pontificate is just a kickoff. Of course any of us could be wrong, myself included.
There are Protestants who have timelines I agree with you, it is really like a slippery jellyfish You think you have ahold of something concrete and it slips away “Turning and turning in the widening gyre” I think that is a line from “The Second Coming” by WB Yeats, That entire poem is prophetic
Hi Luan, I have read on this before, but I can't recall the source. I ran through Father Gobbi's 'blue book', but did not see him speak to it.
I suppose one can never have too much time to prepare for the worst of times. The main indicator to me, which scripture points to, is the great apostasy. The apostasy predates the reign of the Antichrist and the Warning, so we watch and see how far the apostasy that is well under way goes before heaven say's enough. At the rate it is going today, I cannot see how any faithful will be around, especially when you see apostasy deep deep within the walls of the Vatican.
Interestingly, Aviso, two months before the above message of October 13th, Our Lady of Akita presented a message of anger, but it was not her anger she spoke of: August 3, 1973 "My daughter, my novice, do you love the Lord? If you love the Lord, listen to what I have to say to you." "It is very important...You will convey it to your superior." "Many men in this world afflict the Lord. I desire souls to console Him to soften the anger of the Heavenly Father. I wish, with my Son, for souls who will repair by their suffering and their poverty for the sinners and ingrates." "In order that the world might know His anger, the Heavenly Father is preparing to inflict a great chastisement on all mankind. With my Son I have intervened so many times to appease the wrath of the Father. I have prevented the coming of calamities by offering Him the sufferings of the Son on the Cross, His Precious Blood, and beloved souls who console Him forming a cohort of victim souls. Prayer, penance and courageous sacrifices can soften the Father's anger. I desire this also from your community...that it love poverty, that it sanctify itself and pray in reparation for the ingratitude and outrages of so many men. Recite the prayer of the Handmaids of the Eucharist with awareness of its meaning; put it into practice; offer in reparation (whatever God may send) for sins. Let each one endeavor, according to capacity and position, to offer herself entirely to the Lord." "Even in a secular institute prayer is necessary. Already souls who wish to pray are on the way to being gathered together. Without attaching to much attention to the form, be faithful and fervent in prayer to console the Master." May the Two Hearts instruct me how to better offer my poverty and suffering for the sake of sinners! Safe in the Refuge of the Immaculate Heart!
Luan, I believe you are referring to the Scripture reading: "And he seduced them that dwell on the earth, for the signs, which were given him to do in the sight of the beast, saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make the image of the beast, which had the wound by the sword, and lived." [Apocalypse (Revelation) 13:14] "The beast, which thou sawest, was, and is not, and shall come up out of the bottomless pit, and go into destruction: and the inhabitants on the earth (whose names are not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world) shall wonder, seeing the beast that was, and is not." [Apocalypse (Revelation) 17:8] There is no reference in Fr. Gobbi's book regarding this, but Our Lady has many references to the "Beast" in his book: 235c, 267npr, 314b, 405cdehuDF, 406dfgo, 407cdefgijp, 409bl, 411d, 413bef, 478o, and 548h - if you would like to read about them. It is my opinion that what you have quoted above and what is in the Book of Revelation regards "Masonry". God bless you. Lynne
Maybe we will look back and see that it has already happened when Pope John Paul declared infallibly that the Church has no authority to ordain women? Plenty of sticks and stones were thrown at St. John Paul especially towards the end of his life on earth. Or we could look back and see that the Holy Father in the very big house was Pope Benedict who had even more stones and insults thrown at him until he made the difficult decision to retire. Could "the Beast who was and is not" be the revival of an old heresy which had been killed off by the Church under the guidance of the Holy Spirit - the sword of Truth?
Here is the full story... On one very hot day, the children spent the siesta hour on the well at the back of the garden of Lucia’s house. Jacinta asked her cousin, “Haven’t you seen the Holy Father?” “No!” “I do not know how it happened! I saw the Holy Father in a very large house, on his knees, in front of a table, with his hands on his face, crying. Outside the house were many people and some threw stones at him, others cursed and told him many ugly words. Poor little Holy Father! We have to pray a lot for Him!” Another day, two priests who had gone to interrogate them explained who the Pope was and asked the children to pray for him. Jacinta then asked Lucia, “Is he the same I saw crying, and of whom the Lady spoke in that secret?” “Yes.” “Certainly that Lady also showed him to these priests! See? I was not mistaken. We must pray a lot for him.” In fact, Jacinta was taken with such a love for the Holy Father that every time she offered one of her sacrifices to Jesus, she added: “And for the Holy Father.” At the end of each rosary she always recited three Hail Marys for the pope and sometimes would say, “I wish I could see the Holy Father! So many people come here and the Holy Father never comes.” Another time, the three little shepherds had gone to their favorite rock hollows on Cabeço hill, where the angel had appeared to them. Prostrating with their foreheads on the ground, they fervently recited the prayer he had taught them. After a moment, Jacinta arose and asked, “Don’t you see many roads, paths and fields full of people crying with hunger, who have nothing to eat? And the Holy Father in a church, praying before the Immaculate Heart of Mary? And many people praying with Him?” After several days, she asked Lucia: “Can I say that I have seen the Holy Father and all those people?” “No. Don’t you see that it is part of the secret and they would soon discover it?” “All right, then I won’t say anything.”
God and Blessed Mother entrusted such prophetic messages to such innocent children! Imagine not knowing who the Holy Father is these days, with photos everywhere.
“In 1998 Martin gave a sensational interview on the Art Bell Show in which he provided a behind-the-scenes account of the Vatican and of the “war to the death” between progressivists and traditionalists. At a certain point the interviewer asked him about the Third Secret of Fatima, and the ecclesiastic, who claims that he read it precisely because of his closeness with Cardinal Bea, explained that its publication would be devastating: “It could be a shock...It could strike people in different ways. Some, if they came to know that this was really the Third Secret of Fatima, would be extremely angry.” These words leave one to think of the preannouncement of a catastrophe, but when the interviewer recalled the horrible planetary cataclysms contained in the document from Neues Europa and asked if the Secret is that traumatic, the response by Martin is: “Worse.” To the disconcerted journalist the ecclesiastic repeated: “Much worse. Look i am proceeding very cautiously. The central element of the Third Secret is terrifying and is not contained in that (in the passage you have read me.)” More terrifying than Catastrophes. “The interviewer then asked: “Are you telling me that what is contained in the Third Secret is more terrible that what i have just read?” “Oh yes. It is. Because what you have just read is, essentially the extermination by natural powers... It is as if nature is revolting against the human race It is substantially what happens by means of these terrible catastrophes and chastisements. And this is not the essence of the Third Secret, not that which is more terrifying.” It would fill confessionals on Saturday night. Confronted by the astonished exclamation of the interviewer Martin explained: “Yes. It goes beyond the imagination.” Reveal it? “It should be revealed,” “they were going to uncover it,”but “there is the problem of shock, of scandal, of terrifying people and mankind in general...I would like to be able to do it because a thing of this kind, so far as can humanly be foreseen, would give a shock, would terrify people, would fill confessionals on a Saturday night, would fill the cathedrals, the basilicas, and the churches with believers on their knees, beating the breasts.” What would scare people so bad? I have always thought about this? I think...I hope I am wrong, but I think it is in the message of Akita... " If sins increase in number and gravity, there will be no longer pardon for them"
It is said that Pope John 23 fainted when he read it. Malachi Martin corroborated that. What can it possibly be? No more pardon for sins? Is that it? Wow. Puts Divine Mercy in a new light. To me this possibility is terrifying indeed.
Quite terrifying and possibly the correct assumption In some private messages I have read that Our Lady could not hold back the arm of the Lord much longer or some such words to that effect And a couple of weeks ago we were blessed to have a visiting priest on a Sunday who gave a sermon on the sin against the Holy Spirit being unforgivable Now that I think about it, what a gift it was to have that priest and that sermon! When you think about it, at some point the door is going to close The Bridegroom will come and that will be the final chance We had better have our wedding garment on and our lamps lit
Amen HH. Amen. May Our Lord grant us the grace to persevere to the end. But my family...I better up my game. I sort of lost the thread these last weeks when I was sick. Back to my Rosaries. I hope I can add fasting. I'm not very good at it. I pray and hope and try not to worry that time will run out on them. But it is always in the back of my mind how dire their situation is if they don't get right with God.
An excerpt from St. Alphonsus Liguori's Preparation for Death. "Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God." Matthew 4:7 The sinner who abandons himself to sin without striving to resist temptations, or without at least asking God's help to conquer them, and hopes that the Lord will one day draw him from the precipice, tempts God to work miracles, or rather to show to him an extraordinary mercy not extended to the generality of Christians. God, as the Apostle says, "will have all men to be saved" (1 Tim. ii. 4); but He also wishes us all to labor for our own salvation, at least by adopting the means of overcoming our enemies, and of obeying Him when he calls us to repentance. Sinners hear the calls of God, but they forget them, and continue to offend him. But God does not forget them. He numbers the graces which He dispenses, as well as the sins which we commit. Hence, when the time which He has fixed arrives, God deprives us of His graces, and begins to inflict chastisement. I intend to show, in this discourse, that, when sins reach a certain number, God pardons no more. Be attentive
