You're bang out of order with that post Crew. Ragheads??? Really... Holocaust deniers?! I don't believe (the poster nor) any of the regular posters here on MOG could be labelled as holocaust deniers. That's a bit much, lad... Islamic invasion? At the risk of sounding like a lefty, you're talking about children among the ranks of those refugees. Have we asked ourselves what they are they running from? It must be bad to risk so much to get here. I wonder what our Lady, st. Joseph and the baby Jesus would have experienced as they fled their country. We forget that they were refugees also. You should apologise and take that back in my opinion. Often, I post on a whim, and regret what I've posted afterward. I think you might be in that boat at the min. As for those that liked it. Cmon!
No. That's obviously your own idea as you have repeated it, coming from your mind, apparently due to your own religious reference for how your own understanding was formed, and again, lacking the broader, ongoing plan of God that I mentioned and can't be dismissed, planted in history, but continuing to grow into the completion of His plan. To eliminate the Jews' place at the table through a rather myopic view of their role focused only via current events, shows a personal limited vision for a personal interpretation, outside that of the mind of Christ, reflecting the Father's. If you wish to deny the ongoing free will of each individual, including the Jews whom you seem to wish to target in your comments, then that kind of thinking strays far outside the Word of God and what is ordered from those who claim to be adherents of that challenging revelation of just Who God is. Remember, "anything is possible with God".....many "wretches" who have been "saved" by that "Amazing Grace" through Mercy alone will be the first to attest to that truth and the last ones to target any particular group with then those who happen to be classified within.
I was only asking what you were trying to say with your post. I didn't understand it. I still don't. P.S. I didn't even mention the Jews. I just didn't understand your point is all...
Now, now, being just a bit disingenuous there? That seemed to be the only object targeted by yourself, twice at least, for an explanation from myself of why I was mentioning, only in part, the Jews and their ongoing blessings....for various reasons I had tried to explain for your better understanding: But it seems that you ar saying that the Jews are Gods chosen people; therefore they should be backed to the hilt, no matter what they decide to do. ...so you are saying that the Jews are Gods chosen people (historically speaking) and they can do whatever they want? I rest my case!!
Lol okay, what I mean is that I didn't CRITICISE the Jews. Really, I only asked for clarity as to what you were saying...
Julia, There is probably a lot of truth in that article but the interviewee admits that the situation in Syria is very complex. The following is from the interview, 'JP' is the interviewer and 'H' is the interviewee. JP: Right now there is a huge Christian revival in Russia, and Putin of course is an Orthodox Christian. Recently I read that one reason he intervened in Syria was to protect the Orthodox Church, which has been in Syria for 2,000 years, and that he’d been encouraged to do so by Patriarch Kirill. H: Well, I don’t know, that may be true. However, I also want to say that no nation sacrifices its soldiers unless it is in its own national interest. Russia has oil and natural gas interests in Syria, and it also gives them additional access to the sea, which they need. Of course, the West has its own plans for Syrian oil and gas, which would threaten Russia’s economy. You must understand, the situation in Syria is very complex. We have the Golan Heights that Israel took from us and does not want to give back, so Syria is at odds with Israel. There are Sunnis in Syria who would like to replace Assad with a Sunni president; this would of course make Saudi Arabia happy, which is a Sunni country, and weaken Iran which is a Shiite country. There are many factors and reasons for this war, let’s call it a World War III happening through mercenaries in Syria, as well as in Iraq and Yemen. The same players are in those countries. So in a nutshell, it is a war between two major powers, America and Russia, with their allies, in our land. ... I read a little of the interviewer's background that he posted on his site. Maybe it helps to know a little bit about him to get some perspective, https://jamesperloff.com/about-james-perloff/. I believe that Syria had problems before the West or Russia got involved. I realize that some conspiracy theorists don't believe this to be the case but there was a combination of things going on in Syria that led to the civil war and 'H' does appear to agree with this. Here is a Wikipedia page that also explains about the complexity of some of the terrorist groups in Syria, I am posting it mainly because 'H' mentions one of these groups in the interview but the group goes by several different names which is explained here, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Nusra_Front#Formation_of_Tahrir_al-Sham_(January_2017) . The following begins the page, Al-Nusra Front or Jabhat al-Nusra (Arabic: جبهة النصرة), known as the Jabhat Fateh al-Sham (Arabic: جبهة فتح الشام, transliteration: Jabhat Fataḥ al-Šām) after July 2016, and also described as al-Qaeda in Syria or al-Qaeda in the Levant,[34][35] is a Salafist jihadist organization fighting against Syrian government forces in the Syrian Civil War, with the aim of establishing an Islamic state in the country.[36] The group announced its formation on 23 January 2012.[37] I pray that God may protect all innocent people everywhere in the world.
When I say I didn't even mention the Jews Earth; I mean I was in no way critical of them. Again, I merely asked that you clarify the meaning of your post. A lot of people seem to forget that when masses of people are singled out for criticism, and when they call for these masses of people to be 'dealt with' - it is innocent men, women and children that suffer. In supporting Israel, we damn the Palestinians. In supporting the Palestinians we damn the Jews; and so on, and so on... I asked for clarification, Earth so that I might make this point. Our thinking is all wrong. The group-think ethos that we have been socialised into is hurting people in all manner of ways. We need to become, in my opinion, more Christian in our thinking. All of us.
I remember hearing Hilary Clinton, when she had just got news about the death of Gaddafi in Libya, laughing... and making jokes about 'us' taking him out. This frivolity at the loss of life must hurt deeply our great Lord and Saviour. Thank God he didn't allow her to be elected as president.
jackzokay, Your opinion is that I am "merely 'splitting hairs' on the matter", my opinion is that you are turning the matter into something that it was never about. You need to go back through the posts that you are referencing because I did not use the link to substantiate a viewpoint of mine. Basically, I was asking Richard67 if a particular theory that he posted on MOG was his or if he had in fact plagiarized it from the site that I found it on. He then posted the link to where he did in fact plagiarize the theory but before doing so he decided to turn the attention towards the site that I posted and later you decided to join in. Slander is to make a false statement about someone, this is what you have done and I gave you two examples in this post #5241 . If someone has stated that they have been slandered usually the other person apologizes, they don't turn it around on the person and state that the person has sensitivities. May God bless you also.
In this case, with the Clintons and those others of their ilk, it seems to be one where Justice will be their only possible road to any future Mercy. IOW, some have to be brought to the lowest point before there is hope for true self awareness, conversion, and rescue from the clutches of the diabolical. Hopefully the ongoing exposures of and judgement upon the evil systems, worldwide, will serve to complete the purification, material and spiritual. And I see it beginning....with certain "lights" being placed in strategic positions as signs of God's plan. And just the fact that things are no longer even hidden but right out in the open shows a kind of desperation on the part of the evil powers. Will take some time though. And of course we can assist by our trust in Him and our prayers w/ sacrifice. My own need is for greater patience while we watch and wait.
jackzokay, I stated, "I wonder if you are amazed quite often.". #5274 I was simply referring to what you yourself brought up on this thread (see your post above). Therefore, it is not a strange question actually it wasn't a question at all but I hope that my above post #5286 clears up your amazement on this subject.
I hate to sound like Rodney King(“can’t we all just get along?”) but can’t we all just agree to disagree? There are strongly held beliefs here on all sides of the issues. Clearly. But please everyone you don’t have to come in loaded for bear (as we say in Maine)! We are all sisters and brothers in Christ. We musnt denigrate ANY group. And Jesus chose to be born into the Jewish people. Our Lady is straight up Jewish DNA as is St Joseph and St Peter and St John and so so many of our beloved saints. They are God’s people. That doesnt change. They WILL be converted before the end. Going on from there we musnt give in to hate or disparagement of Muslims either. Or Russians or Syrians for that matter. As for what is going on in Syria or what is up with Vladimir Putin let’s face it. We don’t KNOW. Shadow puppets and false flags? Genuine efforts to help? We don’t know. It is above our pay grade. What DO we know? We know Our Lady asked for prayer for the conversion of Russia. We can still do that. We must do that. Prayer all round folks. Hard to do I know. We all think we have so much territory to protect. But to paraphrase Our Lord: “Only one thing is necessary”. We must pray and love and forgive and be patient with each other!! This darkness around us is truly toxic. All sorts of lures into confusion and pride and anger. Don’t fall for it. We are family here in the one true Roman Catholic faith. Agree to disagree. In love. Sorry for the rant. Praying for us all. God bless.
Oh! .. My!!! Was St John Paul being "held at gunpoint" by The Jews!!!??: "JOHN PAUL II AND THE JEWS" https://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2007/12/john-paul-ii-and-the-jews GOD SAVE ALL HERE!! PS: It looks like that Ol' Evil Meanie PM Netanyahu is dishin' dirt on those poor Religion of Peace Guys in Iran as I write this. I'm sure some here will claim it's all Fake-News" ..... Right!!??
Hey gang....are you now catching Bibi's presentation of their massive evidence of Iran's ongoing "secret" nuclear program...here (rerun it to watch from the beginning):
A boon to President Trump for his plans to squash the phony Iran "deal" pushed into action by Obama. Trump is Bibi's main targeted audience! Netanyahu: Iran Nuclear Deal Is Based on Lies – Here's the Proof https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news...-iran-cheated-world-on-nuke-program-1.6045300
Well said, AED. In non-essentials, in topics that are politically charged and contain various points of reference, it is easy to get bent out of shape. On this we can agree, entrust everyone to the mercy of God. be charitable, for the Lord is in charge and His victory assured. Safe in the Hearts of Jesus and Mary!
Anyone watching the CNN report of the Syrian "freedom fighter" eating the heart of a dead Syrian soldier should have seen the writing on the wall then. But they chose not to. CNN portrayed the cannibal as the victim. That's how low our so-called civilisation has sunk. Judeo/Christian values my backside! Money and power are the only things secular states value. The entire Western world supported those savages and went on supplying arms to them as they raped slaughtered and pillaged their way through Syria and Iraq. There are American Christians who have some notion that the Jews will rebuild the Temple and Jesus will come and magic them into the air while He wipes out the rest of humanity. As vested interests play those nutcases like a fiddle, Orthodox and Catholics are slaughtered or driven out of their homelands - lands their ancestors inhabited just as long if not longer than the Jews have been in Israel. Those Christians are the descendants of people evangelised by the Apostles and they have clung on to be a witness to the Faith in the face of all sorts of persecutions throughout history. Until now. Now, the Great White Powers decided to weigh in on the side of savages for the sake of Israel and that bastion of civil liberty which is Saudi Arabia,and Christianity is on the verge of being erased from its cradle. That the Jews are God's first chosen is indisputable. That they were subjected to dreadful atrocities and genocide in Europe is also indisputable. That God would support the genocide of Christians to satisfy their secular State is ludicrous. Anyone who believes that those Christians in the Levant are not God's chosen needs to pick up a bible and read what Jesus said about the vine (I think it's in John: 15). Our own Catholic ancestors were the victims of attempted genocide during the famine. Within 100 years Britain had all but lost its empire. Possibly the greatest empire the world had ever known is now just another former super power. America be warned because all the nukes money and oil in the world will be useless when the one who said "vengeance is mine" decides that enough is enough.
Dolours, I did a quick search for that CNN story and I see that they referred to him as a rebel fighter not exactly a "freedom fighter" thankfully but they did, as you have stated, portray him as a victim although this act of cannibalism was condemned - thank God. https://www.cnn.com/2013/05/14/world/meast/syria-eaten-heart/index.html I was a little surprised to read that Europe does not really consider Hezbollah to be a terrorist organization. It is interesting that since March 2016 the Arab League, which Syria and Lebanon belong to along with 20 other member states and 4 observer states, does in fact consider it to be a terrorist organization. I am curious how you classify Hezbollah, do you consider it to be a terrorist organization?
I don't know much about them but from the little I have read, I would consider Hezbollah to be just another group used by a government when it suits. In this case the government is Iran. I think, although my memory could be faulty, that at one stage ISIS tried to enter Lebanon but were driven back by Hezbollah. In the Middle East, as with anywhere else, one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. Christians appear to fare better at the hands of Shiite Muslims than Sunnis but perhaps that's only in more recent times.
That was around the time when the US were portraying all Syrian rebels as freedom fighters. Don't you remember Kerry's go-for (Barf or Harf was her name) telling the world that ISIS only wanted better career options. Kerry actually admitted at a House or Senate hearing that he didn't really know a whole lot about any of the rebel groups. The CNN "journalist" was being protected by one of those rebel groups and according to CNN they were freedom fighters. I have seen better circus acts than her so-called news reports.
