Something BIG developing in the USA!

Discussion in 'The Spirit of the USA' started by BrianK, Apr 27, 2018.

  1. BrianK

    BrianK Guest

    Hi folks,
    Something really BIG (i.e., truly historical, HUGE) is currently going down in the US Congress with the release of the texts from the FBI agents Strzok and Paige. There’s background related to the “QAnon” info and this is developing fast.

    Here’s a Facebook video to watch for more background:
    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=241343449747540&id=230233314191887

    Even if you don’t give any credibility to the QAnon phenomenon, please join in the hashtag efforts promoted in this video.

    If you aren’t currently on Facebook or Twitter, make up throw away dummy accounts to 1) watch this video and 2) join this hashtag effort. Then ask others to do likewise.

    I honestly think it is more important, globally and not just to the USA, than we can possibly grasp.
     
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  2. BrianK

    BrianK Guest

    Because these FBI communications supposedly include revelations of possible plans to harm our president and may have involved the use of foreign intelligence to accomplish that goal, this issue has global repurcussions.

    The “deep state” will do anything to prevent the revelations of these treasonous conspiracies by the prior administration, so the world may be at risk of immanent false flag events that could start WWIII. It’s this serious.
     
  3. Byron

    Byron Powers

    Any second now...
     
  4. BrianK

    BrianK Guest

  5. Byron

    Byron Powers

  6. Mary's child

    Mary's child Powers

    Yes I have been wondering why as well.(n)
     
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  7. BrianK

    BrianK Guest

    Congressional leaders realize these texts and other intercepted communications are so radioactive and toxic that they literally don’t know how to handle it. It could start a second civil war.
     
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  8. BrianK

    BrianK Guest

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/04/trump-resistance-democratic-party-revolutionary-times/



    Revolution and Worse to Come

    Victor Davis HansonApril 24, 2018 6:30 AM

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    Sign at a protest outside Trump Tower in New York City, February 8, 2018. (Eduardo Munoz/Reuters)

    When legal bloodhounds and baying critics fail to take out Trump, what’s next? The Resistance wants Trump’s head — on the chopping block.

    On the domestic and foreign fronts, the Trump administration has prompted economic growth and restored U.S. deterrence. Polls show increased consumer confidence, and in some, Trump himself has gained ground. Yet good news is bad news to the Resistance and its strange continued efforts to stop an elected president in a way it failed to do in the 2016 election.


    Indeed, the aim of the so-called Resistance to Donald J. Trump is ending Trump’s presidency by any means necessary before the 2020 election. Or, barring that, it seeks to so delegitimize him that he becomes presidentially impotent. It has been only 16 months since Trump took office and, in the spirit of revolutionary fervor, almost everything has been tried to derail him. Now we are entering uncharted territory — at a time when otherwise the country is improving and the legal exposure of Trump’s opponents increases daily.


    First came the failed lawsuits after the election alleging voting-machine tampering. Then there was the doomed celebrity effort to convince some state electors not to follow their constitutional duty and to deny Trump the presidency — a gambit that, had it worked, would have wrecked the Constitution. Then came the pathetic congressional boycott of the inauguration and the shrill nationwide protests against the president.


    Anti- and Never-Trump op-ed writers have long ago run out of superlatives. Trump is the worst, most, biggest — fill in the blank — in the history of the presidency, in the history of the world, worse even than Mao, Mussolini, Stalin, or Hitler.


    Next was the sad effort to introduce articles of impeachment. After that came weird attempts to cite Trump for violations of the emoluments clause of the Constitution. That puerile con was followed by plans to declare him deranged and mentally unfit so that he could be removed under the 25th Amendment. From time to time, Obama holdovers in the DOJ, National Security Council, and FBI sought to leak information, or they refused to carry out presidential orders.


    As the Resistance goes from one ploy to the next, it ignores its string of failed prior efforts, forgetting everything and learning nothing. State nullification is no longer neo-Confederate but an any-means-necessary progressive tool. Suing the government weekly is proof of revolutionary fides, not a waste of California’s taxpayer dollars.


    Anti- and Never-Trump op-ed writers have long ago run out of superlatives. Trump is the worst, most, biggest — fill in the blank — in the history of the presidency, in the history of the world, worse even than Mao, Mussolini, Stalin, or Hitler. So if Trump is a Hitler who gassed 6 million or a Stalin who starved 20 million, then logically Trump deserves what exactly?


    The book industry is doing its part. Mythographer Michael Wolff’s hearsay Fire and Fury suggested that Trump was a dangerous child despised as much by his friends as by his enemies. As FBI director, James Comey leaked confidential memos, lied to Congress, misled a FISA court, admitted that he based his handling of the Clinton-email investigation on the assumption she’d win the presidency, misinformed the president about the status of his investigation. And the now-former director book-tours the country slamming Trump hourly on the assumption that he would certainly not be former, if only his prior obsequious efforts to appease Trump had saved his job. Comey is building perjury cases against himself daily with each new disclosure that belie past sworn testimonies, but that is apparently less scary to him than simply ignoring Trump.


    Robert Mueller and his “dream team” were long ago supposed to have discovered proof of Trump’s collusion with Russia. A year later, they have found nothing much to do with this mandate. Then the alternative scent was obstruction of justice. Then the chase took another detour to follow some sort of fraud or racketeering. Now the FBI is reduced to raiding Trump’s lawyer in an effort to root out the real story on Stormy Daniels. One wonders what might have happened had Michael Cohen panicked and destroyed 30,000 emails before Mueller seized his computers. No matter, Mueller’s legal army presses on, even as it leaves its own wounded on the battlefield, as resignations, reassignments, and retirements for improper conduct decimate the Obama-era FBI and DOJ hierarchies.


    Con’t
     
  9. BrianK

    BrianK Guest

    Con’t




    Trump has left the intelligence community unhinged. John Brennan (“When the full extent of your venality, moral turpitude, and political corruption becomes known, you will take your rightful place as a disgraced demagogue in the dustbin of history. . . . America will triumph over you”) and James Clapper (who called Trump a veritable traitor working for Putin) have both admitted to lying under oath to Congress in the past, and with their present invective, they have discredited the very notion of a Washington intelligence elite. At some point, Mueller’s zealotry will remind federal attorneys that equality under the law demands indictments of those with far greater legal exposure, regardless of the exalted status of Comey, Andrew McCabe, and — in the matter of lying under oath, leaking classified materials, and destroying evidence — John Brennan, James Clapper and Hillary Clinton.


    In addition, a media, found to be more than 90 percent negative in its coverage of the Trump administration, sought to delegitimize the president. Journalists declare that disinterested reporting is impossible in the age of Trump — and therefore believe that Stormy Daniels or James Comey’s Dudley Do-Right’s memos are a pathway to accomplish what they are beginning to concede Robert Mueller cannot.


    Everything from the NFL to late-night comedy shows have become Trump-hating venues. Almost every sort of smear from scatology to homophobia has been voiced by celebrities to turn Trump into a president deserving such abuse — and worse. Late-night television host Steven Colbert was reduced to incoherent and repellant venom: “You talk like a sign-language gorilla that got hit in the head. In fact, the only thing your mouth is good for is being Vladimir Putin’s c*** holster.” Actor Robert De Niro has become deranged and dreams of pounding on Trump’s face. But then so does former vice president Joe Biden, who on two occasions boasted that Trump is the sort of guy that a younger he-man Biden used to take outside the gym to give a whippin’ to.


    Each cycle of hysteria demands another, as the race to the bottom has descended into which celebrity or politician can discover the most provocative — or crude — Trump expletive. “S***” and “f***” are now the ordinary vocabulary of angry Democratic politicos and officeholders. Are we reaching a point in the so-far-failed Resistance where little is left except abject violence in the manner of the Roman or French Revolution? The problem for Trump’s pop-culture foes is not whether to imagine or advocate killing the president. That’s a given. They just need to agree on the means of doing so: decapitation (Kathy Griffin), incineration (David Crosby), stabbing (the Shakespeare in the Park troupe), shooting (Snoop Dogg), explosives (Madonna), old-fashioned, Lincoln-style assassination (Johnny Depp), death by elevator (Kamala Harris), hanging (a CSU professor), or simple generic assassination (a Missouri state legislator).


    The Resistance and rabid anti-Trumpers have lost confidence in the constitutional framework of elections, and they’ve flouted the tradition by which the opposition allows the in-power party to present its case to the court of public opinion.


    Now the Democratic party — whose presidential candidate, Hillary Clinton, hired Christopher Steele to find dirt on Trump with the aid of Russian sources to warp the 2016 election — is suing President Trump, alleging collusion with the Russians. If Clinton were called as a witness, what would she say under cross-examination — that she did not hire Steele, that he never purchased Russian dirt, or that there was no collusion effort to enlist foreign nationals such as British subject Christopher Steele and Russian propagandists to warp an American election?


    Insidiously and incrementally, we are in the process of normalizing violence against the elected president of the United States. If all this fails to delegitimize Trump, fails to destroy his health, or fails to lead to a 2018 midterm Democratic sweep and subsequent impeachment, expect even greater threats of violence. The Resistance and rabid anti-Trumpers have lost confidence in the constitutional framework of elections, and they’ve flouted the tradition by which the opposition allows the in-power party to present its case to the court of public opinion.


    Instead, like the French revolutionaries’ Committee on Public Safety, the unhinged anti-Trumpists assume that they have lost public opinion, given their venom and crudity, and are growing desperate as every legal and paralegal means of removing Trump is nearing exhaustion. Robert Mueller is the last chance, a sort of Watergate or Abu Ghraib that could gin up enough furor to drive down Trump’s poll favorability to the twenties and thereby reduce his person to a demonic force deserving of whatever it gets.


    After the prior era of hysteria, between 2005 and 2008, when books and docudramas staged the imagined assassination of George W. Bush, and celebrities like Michael Moore and activists such as Cindy Sheehan reduced Bush to the status of a war criminal, the Left in 2009 demanded a return to normal political discourse and comportment, with the election of Barack Obama. A newly contrite and apologetic America was abruptly worth believing in again. In 2009, the CIA and FBI suddenly were reinvented as hallowed agents of change.


    Bush careerists, including Clapper and Brennan, were now damning the very counterterrorism practices that they once helped put in place, while offering Obama-like politically correct sermons on the benign nature of Islamism. Surveillance and jailing were appropriate punishments for suspected Obama apostates (ask James Rosen or Nkoula Basseley Nakoula). The IRS was weaponized for use against Obama’s ideological opponents. Suggestions that the president was unfit or worse became near treasonous. Unity was the new patriotism. The assumption was that Obama had ushered in a half-century of progressive norms, not that he so alienated the country that he birthed Donald Trump.


    The danger to the country this time around is that the Left has so destroyed the old protocols of the opposition party that it will be hard to resurrect them when progressives return to power.


    We are entering revolutionary times. The law is no longer equally applied. The media are the ministry of truth. The Democratic party is a revolutionary force. And it is all getting scary.
     
  10. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

    Patience is key. They won't be released until it is time.
    I have to say, the segue from the 20k remaining JFK investigation docs released to the public today and now the revelation of these text messages was a brilliant bit of planning.
     
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  11. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

    Brian,

    Thanks for posting those, especially the NationalReview article it's quite a summary of how ugly things have gotten in the USA.
    I can't help but wonder how Syria fits into this with all of the comparisons to Iraq and Bush, maybe someone is hoping for a lynch mob or worse against the President.

    We all know that things have been scary for awhile already now.

    PS - When I heard the name Stormy Daniels for the first time, I thought how prophetic is that - Stormy Daniels.

    Edited to add:
    Byron,
    Consider how Devin Nunes must feel he has been working on this for what must seem like forever to him. Let's just say he has been working on this since the beginning.
     
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  12. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

    Its all part of the game. Momentum has to build with the public putting things together before the actual proof is released so that things don't spiral out of control.
     
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  13. Texas Mama of 2

    Texas Mama of 2 Archangels

    Don_D,

    I'd love to think you're right, but I've just about despaired of any of this meaning anything, with the result being that the guilty just continue to get away with it like they always have. :(
     
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  14. Tanker

    Tanker Powers

    I do see some movement on this with the Q movement and alternative news sources. Or maybe it's my "wishful" , thinking and hoping. I have learned so much, educating and researching since listening to the Q research live stream.

    My reservations lie in the general apathy of the U.S. population. A year or so ago undercover Planned Parenthood videos were released and the public was disgusted and Congress was disgusted and nothing was done. It's about all forgotten. The bad guys sue and made a mockery of Daleidon, he was demonized and the msm marginalized him and the videos and it's all but disappeared.... Move along, nothing more to see here. I just wonder if this won't be the same.

    America is just so apathetic, as a whole. We tie our international aid to abortion and birth control and ss marriage and a plethora of other immorality and bully the world into taking the whole package OR no $$$ from us. And no one seems to care that we are hurting people. And we talk about all this coming to light and stopping the bad guys but it just never happens. America 's hands are dirty and we either don't know about it or don't care. I love America and I feel better about the direction we are going but, honestly, I feel like we are pawns in someone else's chess game. We have no control.

    I pray all this evil is exposed and I pray people go to prison and it stops. But it seems like America has changed her fundamental core beliefs and is floundering trying to find which side is up.
     
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  15. Byron

    Byron Powers

    It's worse to know the whole truth, and do nothing about it.
     
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  16. AED

    AED Powers

    We have to keep praying. If God had given up on us the election would have gone very differently. People are being woken one mind and soul at a time. It is terribly hard to be patient. But people are waking up!!keep praying. There will be justice. But pray!!
     
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  17. BrianK

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    The problem is that the “Q” phenomenon is largely secular. Yes, there are committed Christians praying for Trump’s success, even some Catholics. But I suspect that even if Trump/“Q” is wildly successful, it may bring a temporary peace that lulls Evangelical Christianity into a false sense of security. Evangelical Christianity will go on approving divorce and remarriage, contraception, out of control capitalism, etc., and in the end it will be a false peace.

    Regardless of whether Trump is a “success” the world and the Church is under judgement and we’re going to see the fulfillment of Catholic prophecy regardless - to the extreme consternation of “Q”s followers who think part of the “plan” is the historical downfall of Roman Catholicism and the papacy. It might even initially appear to be the case.

    The Q phenomenon is not, in the final analysis, to be completely trusted from a Catholic perspective. Just MHO, as one who has followed and studied it closely.
     
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  18. AED

    AED Powers

    True Brian. I have followed it closely too. One step at a time. Clean up the government and put an end to abortion and save the poor children being trafficked. More grace in the world!! And keep praying the Rosary. Our Lady promised. Keep faith. Let her sort it out. Who would have dared to hope we would be on the cusp of this restoration two years ago?God moves in mysterious ways.
     
  19. Dean

    Dean Archangels

    Qanon is silly. I followed for a while. No one wants to talk about all the predictions that he got wrong. Kind of like Charlie no matter how much you want them to be right, and we do, when concrete statements are not true they lose credibility.
     
  20. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

    The issue I take with it is similar to what Brian expressed. Until the West and most specifically America abandons the city of man for the City of God and He is acknowledged in His rightful Authority there will be no lasting peace or justice.
    Q is interesting though and obviously has some kind of inside information. He has been bringing up information consistently before it hits the news.
     
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