HH St Louis deMonfort's devotion to the Immaculate Heart of Mary--to Jesus through Mary--really took hold in the Vende. They refused the Jacobins and their antiGod government/revolution. So they fought. They all stitched a Sacred Heart emblem on their shirts and went to war.
Sg, Well, "a sort of schism". HH, You are correct but I think that some are calling it "a sort of schism" because of all of the confusion that is being caused by the Vatican not clearly upholding the Church's teachings. So I know that I have heard and read Bishop Schneider state something like there is "a sort of schism" in the Church. I just looked up Bishop Schneider's wording. He stated, "A certain kind of schism already exists in the Church," and “we are witnessing today a strange form of schism,” https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/b...sing-today-a-strange-form-of-schism-within-th @ 31.30 min. mark Bishop Schneider states "when I am separating myself from the truth of Church, I'm in a kind of schism". Of course, he is not referring to himself but anyone who does this.
Thanks to you above for clarification I still need to review the latter part of the video from Sunburst to see why deMontfort was mentioned Thank you all
It is the same routine over and over again, we should not be surprised. Keep up the prayers for Pope Francis. Since we have had some years now of Pope Francis pontificate it may be wise to go back and re read some of these old articles for a better understanding. At the time many were confused by the actions of the Vatican but now, in hindsight, it has become much clearer. https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/p...h-on-homosexuality-retained-in-final-synod-do Wed Nov 5, 2014 - 4:15 pm EST Pope ordered rejected paragraph on homosexuality retained in final Synod document: Cardinal Marx ROME -- Pope Francis has “pushed the door open” on the issues of homosexuality and Communion for the divorced and remarried, and no vote by a future Synod of Bishops is going to reverse it, according to one of the pope’s closest advisors. Cardinal Reinhard Marx, the president of the German Catholic Bishops’ Conference and a member of Pope Francis’ inner circle, said in an interview with Die Zeit that the pope himself had ordered the rejected paragraph on homosexuality to be retained in the Synod’s final document. It was widely reported by the world’s press, including interviews with high-ranking prelates, that the paragraphs relating to homosexuality and Communion for divorced and remarried Catholics in the mid-term document aroused shock and outrage among some Synod fathers. The paragraphs asked whether the Church could learn to “accept” the homosexual “orientation.” In the Synod’s final document, the fathers failed to approve a paragraph mentioning the Synod’s discussion of appropriate “pastoral attention” for homosexual persons and quoting Church teaching that homosexual unions are not “in any way similar or even remotely analogous to God's plan for marriage and family.” Despite only garnering 118 out of 180 votes, and thus failing to meet the needed two-thirds majority, the Vatican included the paragraph in the published document along with the vote tally. Likewise, the document included a paragraph on the discussions about opening Communion to civilly ‘remarried’ divorcees that had failed to gain the needed votes. According to Cardinal Marx, this was done with the approval of the pope. “Up to now, these two issues have been absolutely non-negotiable. Although they had failed to get the two-thirds majority, the majority of the synod fathers had nevertheless voted in their favor,” he said. “They are still part of the text,” Marx said. “I especially asked the pope about that, and the pope said he wanted all the points published together with all the voting results. He wanted everyone in the church to see where we stood.” “No, this pope has pushed the doors open and the voting results at the end of the synod will not change that,” he said. Cardinal Marx added that it is in the coming year before the next session of the Synod that “the real work is about to begin.” Despite media reports to the contrary, Marx said the “progressive” group at the Synod had not suffered any setbacks, and cited the pontificate of Francis as proof. “Anyone who comes to that conclusion has not had their eye on what has been going on in our church over the past one and a half years,” Marx said. “This pope knows exactly what he is doing, let no one doubt that. Francis wants us to move. His frequent use of the word avanti – ‘get moving’ – is ample proof of that.” Marx denied that there had been a clash between theological camps at the Synod, saying that the “logic of confrontation” would have been “un-Christian” and “unwise.” “In a reform process, whoever divides people into superiors and inferiors prevents us from being infected and surprised by the Holy Spirit. It’s not a case of throwing opponents. Whoever abuses a new beginning in the church in order to organize majorities for their own camp has not understood the spirit of this pope.” Cardinal Marx also denied that there had been strong opposition to the progressivists’ stand from the bishops of Africa. “It has so often been insinuated in recent years that these two wishes are a phenomenon of the decadent West and that they do not play a role in the rest of the world church.” “However, the numerous colleagues from Africa and Asia, but also from the Curia who approached me at the synod about them proves how totally mistaken that view is,” he said, in comments that have been translated and re-published by the National Catholic Reporter, the mouthpiece of the “progressive” wing of the Church in the US. The cardinal added that one of the “central theological debates” at the Synod had been about “how to find a way out of the far-too-narrow logic of ‘Everything or nothing,’ ‘Sin or not sin.’” Meanwhile in an address to the UK’s Ambassador to the Holy See, Cardinal Lorenzo Baldisseri, Secretary General of Synod of Bishops, hinted that the voting process of the second session of the Synod may be altered. Baldisseri, who had reportedly come under criticism from some bishops at the Synod who felt the process was being “manipulated,” said, “No one can deny that the synodal process and structure had grown tired with the passage of time, and there seemed little opportunity for evaluation or renewal.” The Italian cardinal said that the Synod’s “global gatherings have certainly not produced new dogma or overturned Church teachings,” but added that they were not “about taking a poll or voting in a democratic way on Church teaching and practice.” Baldisseri quoted one of Pope Francis’ interviews where the pope said, “Maybe it is time to change the methods of the Synod of Bishops, because it seems to me that the current method is not dynamic.” Baldisseri also downplayed what he called a media-generated impression that there had been “great tension,” over some issues at the Synod or that “differing opinions within the Church” had been revealed. Instead, he said, the Synod process was merely an “honest and prayerful attempt to discern answers to complex pastoral challenges across many cultures and ways of thinking.” The Synod’s bishops, he said, had felt that “the discussions allowed for a genuinely dynamic synod, and that its overall purpose was achieved.” Cardinal Baldisseri added that Pope Francis hopes to return the Synod processes back to resemble more the early councils of the Church. The pope, he said, “wished to reform the synodal structure so that it could better discuss and consult on major questions facing the Church, just as it did in the early centuries of Christianity.”
http://www.nationalshrine.com/site/apps/nlnet/content.aspx?c=osJRKVPBJnH&b=4751533&ct=15012649 There will be a Pontifical Solemn High Mass in the Extraordinary form (TLM) on Saturday, 1pm, April 28. It will be at the National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception, to commemorate the 10th anniversary of Summorum Pontificum issued by Benedict XVI. This is when he gave permission for the TLM to be more widely celebrated. I can't go because I will be recovering from a pain shot. Too much walking. But I include this link because I strongly suspect that EWTN will televise this Mass. I have never seen a Pontifical Solemn High Mass in the TLM. This will be a great blessing!
Yes don, This one thing I am very relieved now. That the mist and fog has cleared and I can see things so much more clearly now that things have come right out and the open and we can see the enemies eyes in full beam. It is so kind of you to urge us to pray for the Holy Father, I must remember to do this.
I have a hard time believing you padraig. I struggle with it and so I remind myself most of all because I am tempted every day to not do it. I must remember to pray especially for those who are defending the Faith.
Yes, I think someone once said that, 'The proper place of the Christian is hanging on the Cross'. The great citadel that defended us from being hung on the Cross, the Vatican has fallen and gone indeed over to the Enemy. So we may not expect at some time soon to be hung on the Cross. But what better bed for a Christian to sleep that on the Cross? Let us await with longing hope for our Martyrs Crown. The Great Prize of the Christian. How terrible though to be betrayed by your own people! By the very one you most relied on to defend you! Now I see a little how Jesus must have felt when kissed by Judas.
Someone posted this talk. It may depress the heck out of you , but it's well worth watching. Elizabeth Yore is always good to listen too.
Hmm...but if one goes to daily mass, one is bound to pray for the pope daily. Right? And I always add my prayers for Pope Benedict at that particular time, in between the priest's mention of prayers for the pope and the bishop.
You are correct about St. Louis deMontfort coming before the French Revolution. My mistake. He is mentioned in the above video, though. The part of the video concerning resistance begins at 46 minutes. Sunburst originally posted this. Padraig, you are right. It is depressing but Liz Yore lays all of the facts out very simply so we know what is happening without a doubt.
The unity of the Church is at stake. I love how St. Ignatius of Antioch described unity in his letter to the Ephesians in 110 AD. Note that Ignatius is speaking of the unity of a local church and not of the universal church for the latter concept did not come into full view until the writings of St. Irenaeus at the end of the 2nd century. Still, the concern for continuity and unity was wonderfully intense back then as Gnosticism was even then making inroads. Wherefore it is fitting that you should run together in accordance with the will of your bishop, which thing also you do. For your justly renowned presbytery, worthy of God, is fitted as exactly to the bishop as the strings are to the harp. Therefore in your concord and harmonious love, Jesus Christ is sung. And man by man, become a choir, that being harmonious in love, and taking up the song of God in unison, you may with one voice sing to the Father through Jesus Christ, so that He may both hear you, and perceive by your works that you are indeed the members of His Son. It is profitable, therefore, that you should live in an unblameable unity, that thus you may always enjoy communion with God. For if I in this brief space of time, have enjoyed such fellowship with your bishop — I mean not of a mere human, but of a spiritual nature — how much more do I reckon you happy who are so joined to him as the Church is to Jesus Christ, and as Jesus Christ is to the Father, that so all things may agree in unity! Let no man deceive himself: if any one be not within the altar, he is deprived of the bread of God. For if the prayer of one or two possesses (Matthew 18:19) such power, how much more that of the bishop and the whole Church! He, therefore, that does not assemble with the Church, has even by this manifested his pride, and condemned himself. For it is written, God resists the proud. Let us be careful, then, not to set ourselves in opposition to the bishop, in order that we may be subject to God. So too, let no one today, Pope or layman, set themselves in opposition to the Deposit of Faith brought forward consistently from the early days of the Church! Safe in the Hearts of Jesus and Mary!
Yes it is always our duty as Catholics to pray for the Pope. We may also recall that the response of God, for the better fate of the Holy Father and the Church, in response to our prayers is to strike him at once dead. This seems to me a very distinct possibility at the moment. http://www.biblestudy.org/bible-study-by-topic/people-in-the-bible/people-killed-by-god.html A good example being King Herod Agrippa, struck dead by an angel of the Lord
Which is why I am very attentive when I pray for very evil people, especially Satanists. It is always very possible that this is what will happen. I have seen it several times before; no doubt I will see it again. It is very sobering. We use the word , 'mercy', very lightly.
I have said before but repeat again as it has been helpful to me. I say the Rosary or Divine Mercy chaplet for PF and the wayward Cardinals but I direct it to Our Lady and the Sacred Heart. “I give them to you. You know what needs to be done. I surrender them to you.”
