They're also capable of being just plain wrong. From what I can tell the first-hand accounts of all of the 'gas attacks' come from rebels. And when the Bishop of Aleppo is supporting Assad as being the best option I'm more inclined to listen to him. https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/syrian-civil-war-assad-christians-oppose-efforts-depose-him/
Why develop chemical weapons in the first place? To deter the nuclear-armed Zionist state calling itself Israel, that’s why. You’ll notice Netanyahu never bombs ISIS and always bombs the Christian-protecting Assad. That’s why Assad had chemical weapons, and rightly so. America make our own chemical weapons at Ft. Detrick in Maryland. Last time I checked they were still there.
CD, Thank you for answering and I agree but a tough post to put a "like" on. I think in this situation people are not paying attention to the fact that France has stated that they have evidence that Syria performed this latest Chemical weapons attack. If the world is going to act at all, I think it must be done quickly because the culprits move the evidence to another location when they are given the time to do so. I am in no way in favor of war but I am looking at this to get a better understanding of what is occurring. Thank you as always.
Never a truer word was spoken than "Truth is the first casualty of war". We'll never really know the whole story. Whichever side wins will write the history, suppressing or glossing over their own misdeeds and magnifying out of all proportion the loser's misdeeds. Best for us to pray for peace and for God to sustain and protect the innocent civilians and ordinary servicemen and women from all sides who are serving their countries to the best of their ability.
Well, WELL .... It appears that another Anti-Semitic Jew hater has exposed himself on MOG. As I mentioned some time ago in another exchange on MOG, I grew up in a Catholic anti-Semite family that was pretty much Standard Catholic back in the pre- Vatican II Days. I know a Jew Hater when I see one .... I got over my inbred prejudices for several reasons over the years. I have become a supporter of Israel though like every other Human Run Op they have their troubles. Though their troubles might be mitigated by all those nice Religion of Peace Guys who want to cut the throat of every Jew in existence ... Gee!!! ..... Didn't some other group of folks have that urge not long ago. Oh!! Please spare me the: "I don't hate the Jewish People. I have a problem with Zionism or Israeli policies". Sadly my older brother is still a Jew Hater like some folks here who can't keep their ugly prejudices bottled-up. GOD SAVE ALL HERE!! PS: Most of the US Stockpile of Chem/Bio Weapons have been destroyed due to Arms Treaties but I'm sure, for obvious reasons, we have a few in reserve and research/means to ............ !?? Nasty World Out-There .... Lots of Haters .... Ya Know!!
Yes, I'm inclined to believe the Christians on the ground, especially after what they have been through at the hands of ISIS. That the US claims it didn't intentionally arm ISIS doesn't change the fact that ISIS slaughtered their way across Iraq and Syria using US weapons. Also, I don't recall any NATO country calling for Israel to be attacked for using chemical weapons. See here: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/jan/21/gaza-phosphorus-shells Neither Israel, Turkey nor Saudi wants an Assad regime in Syria. Trump declaring that the US was pulling out must have been their worst nightmare. Any of those three countries has the means to stage a chemical attack and the means to fake such an attack. That doesn't mean that Assad is innocent. All it means is that we simply don't know and may never know the truth of what is happening in Syria and other Middle Eastern countries.
Richard, That doesn't make sense, I don't think that chemical weapons can deter a nuclear-armed country. I really don't believe that the label that you have given Assad fits. Israel appears to have attacked airbases in Syria which were manned by the Iranians, mostly after provocations from the Iranians. Have you noticed that in the past 12 months or so Putin, Rouhani and Erdogan have met a few times to discuss Syria without Assad even being involved or with very little involvement from him. Assad and his country are probably being used by these other leaders for their own purposes and the Syrian people are expendable in their opinions even if that is not the opinion of Assad idk. https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east...ni-discuss-syria-s-future-in-ankara-1.5976495
I think you are correct, and I think there might be some biological components there as well. Remember the anthrax attacks? I think it was pinned on a guy who worked at Detrick, and then there was an outcry that perhaps they got the wrong man. I suspect you are correct, that bad stuff is still there.
Given her precarious position, surrounded by hundreds of millions of Mohammedans pledged to destroy her, and taking into account that all Jews, bar Messianic ones, have by definition, either as atheists or Jewish believers, rejected Christ's further revelation, one which might (or not) restrain her actions, it is not unreasonable to assume that Israel might resort to very extreme methods to defend herself. There are, as in all comparable groups of people, very many fine Jews. But anyone familiar with the Talmud knows that there is also a significant body of Jews very hostile indeed to Christ and Christianity. The Jews will only truly come into the light when they choose to convert to Christ. There is no black and white-the good guys and the bad guys are on both sides, in a confusing admixture the likes of which we may never have seen before. This is real powers and principalities material.
Assad's 'virtue' lies in his not being ISIS or one of the other Jihadist groups that are even more murderous than he is. His value, as far as I'm concerned, is that he is a bulwark protecting what's left of Syrian Christendom. His removal implies certain victory for the Jihadists, perhaps ensuring greater security for Israel, on the one hand, and more base benefits for others in the conflict, on the other. After all, what is the benefit for the US neo-cons, whom I am still confident Trump is trying to restrain, the UK and France? In a word, OIL. [As for chemical weapons, they are a poor man's nukes. Nuclear powers pontificate about their evil, while flaunting worse themselves. Of course, using them, as opposed to possessing them, is a whole other level of evil. However, by their nature, the identity of their user, and all sides have them, is hard to distinguish].
Well, well, well, it looks like we have another Israel-First, Christian-Zionist here. Brother Andre Marie exposed the Christian Zionists for the warmongers and heretics they are in two excellent videos over at the Sensus Fidelium YouTube channel; I suggest you watch it before you soil yourself further here. Anytime you have to play the “anti-Semite” card, you know you’ve lost. And there is an unreconcilable difference between authentic Judaism and the political messianism called Zionism. Most of the Zionists who founded the modern State of Israel were and are atheists, Marxists, Freemasons and NOT followers of the Law of Moses. Some of the first Prime Ministers of Israel were members of the terrorist groups The Stern Gang and the Irgun. Try Again.
DeGaulle, I agree with most of what you have stated but I'm not certain how Assad's removal would guarantee a "win" for Israel. As you stated if Iran gains a bigger presence in terms of base benefits then that would not be good for Israel. It wouldn't surprise me if Rouhani, Putin and Erdogan have agreed to how they would portion Syria amongst themselves if/when Assad is removed, that appears to be what they're doing at the moment anyway, more or less. I think that Assad may not have as much control of the current situation in his country as he should have and I am not referring to the rebels. Therefore, at one time he may have been more successful at helping the Syrian Christians but I am not so sure that anyone is truly helping them now.
It's in Assad's interests to not persecute the Christians. Most Christians there are Orthodox. It's also in Putin's interests to be seen in Russia as a defender of Orthodox Christianity in the cradle of Christianity. Assad needs Russia's support.
Explosions are heard near Aleppo amid claims an Iranian military base in Syria has been ‘bombed by fighter jets’ Explosions have been reported in rural Aleppo amid claims an Iranian military base in Syria has been bombed by fighter jets. Witnesses are said to have reported loud explosions, flames and casualties - with Iranian soldiers included among them. Some reports from Syria claim Israeli fighter jets had targeted a weapons depot in Jabal Azan - a government controlled area of Aleppo. The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights reported that the explosion took place in an area where Iranian forces were present with the Afghan Fatimiyan Brigade. Israeli has not commented on the claims. The reports also suggest a second base, near Deir ez-Zor in eastern Syria, was also targeted. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ranian-military-base-bombed-fighter-jets.html
Dolours, For several weeks, I was really keeping up with the latest news about the Rif Dimashq offensive (February–April 2018) in which many people were forced underground in the suburbs of Damascus without much food, water or medical assistance. I have read and heard all different estimates on the number of people who have been successfully evacuated, the highest number is 105,000 out of 400,000. If this information is correct that means that almost 300,000 are still starving, idk. How many of these people are Christian, idk. How many out of the 1.5 million killed since the beginning of the civil war there were Christians and who killed them, idk. When this is all over, I suppose I'll see how many Christians are left and how well Assad and Putin did protecting them. I suppose I'm a tough judge about these things. I think that Russia is the only country who was officially invited by Assad to help in Syria but Putin like Rouhani and Erdogan probably has some of his own interests there too.
April 14, 2018 - Statement Issued by the Patriarchates of Antioch and all the East for the Greek Orthodox, Syrian Orthodox, and Greek-Melkite Catholic Damascus, 14 April 2018 God is with us; Understand all ye nations and submit yourselves! We, the Patriarchs: John X, Greek Orthodox Patriarch of Antioch and all the East, Ignatius Aphrem II, Syrian Orthodox Patriarch of Antioch and all the East, and Joseph Absi, Melkite-Greek Catholic Patriarch of Antioch, Alexandria, and Jerusalem, condemn and denounce the brutal aggression that took place this morning against our precious country Syria by the USA, France and the UK, under the allegations that the Syrian government has used chemical weapons. We raise our voices to affirm the following: 1. This brutal aggression is a clear violation of the international laws and the UN Charter, because it is an unjustified assault on a sovereign country, member of the UN. 2. It causes us great pain that this assault comes from powerful countries to which Syria did not cause any harm in any way. 3. The allegations of the USA and other countries that the Syrian army is using chemical weapons and that Syria is a country that owns and uses this kind of weapon, is a claim that is unjustified and unsupported by sufficient and clear evidence. 4. The timing of this unjustified aggression against Syria, when the independent International Commission for Inquiry was about to start its work in Syria, undermines of the work of this commission. 5. This brutal aggression destroys the chances for a peaceful political solution and leads to escalation and more complications. 6. This unjust aggression encourages the terrorist organizations and gives them momentum to continue in their terrorism. 7. We call upon the Security Council of the United Nations to play its natural role in bringing peace rather than contribute to escalation of wars. 8. We call upon all churches in the countries that participated in the aggression, to fulfill their Christian duties, according to the teachings of the Gospel, and condemn this aggression and to call their governments to commit to the protection of international peace. 9. We salute the courage, heroism and sacrifices of the Syrian Arab Army which courageously protects Syria and provide security for its people. We pray for the souls of the martyrs and the recovery of the wounded. We are confident that the army will not bow before the external or internal terrorist aggressions; they will continue to fight courageously against terrorism until every inch of the Syrian land is cleansed from terrorism. We, likewise, commend the brave stand of countries which are friendly to the Syria and its people. We offer our prayers for the safety, victory, and deliverance of Syria from all kinds of wars and terrorism. We also pray for peace in Syria and throughout the world, and call for strengthening the efforts of the national reconciliation for the sake of protecting the country and preserving the dignity of all Syrians.
R67 Sez: "Why develop chemical weapons in the first place? To deter the nuclear-armed Zionist state calling itself Israel, that’s why. You’ll notice Netanyahu never bombs ISIS and always bombs the Christian-protecting Assad. That’s why Assad had chemical weapons, and rightly so." So ..... since Blood Thirsty Jews have Nukes it's A-OK for all the Muslim States to develop Chemical Weapons to defend themselves. As I recall, it's those Perfidious Jews who have been attacked in major wars on three occasions and all too numerous to count lesser events. Oh!! In many (most) of these Muslim States the Christians are, at best, 3rd Class Citizens and at worst being decimated! Guess it's The Jews fault ... Right!!?? Ya better Wise-Up Gang!! Islam = Submission. Islam "hates" Christians only slightly less than The Jews. If you are so blinded by Jew Hatred that you don't see where the danger really lies ...... Good *&*^%$# Luck!! Perhaps R67 can list all the occasions where those Evil Jews bombed Christians in the Middle East ... Eh!!?? As for Assad being a Friend of Christians .. Looks like a matter of opinion and political worldview: http://diplomatie-humanitaire.org/en/no-bashar-al-assad-is-not-the-shield-of-eastern-christians/ http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-bl...d-is-no-friend-of-syrias-christian-minorities "Zionism is the national movement of the Jewish people that supports the re-establishment of a Jewish homeland in the territory defined as the historic Land of Israel." Gee!! Wanting to re-establish your homeland is a terrible thing ... Right? There were a lot of decades when Irishmen, French Acadians, Native Americans and God knows how many other oppressed and exiled people yearned to return to their Homeland ... Bad People ... Eh!!?? Oh!! I can't imagine why any silly Jews might be anti-Christian. Just 'cause they were oppressed, murdered, dispossessed and driven from their Homes for Millennium? .... all culminating in The Holocaust ... that's no reason to be Suspicious & Pissed Off ... Right!!? I believe that St John-Paul II was the first Pope to Fess-Up to 1500 years of Jew Hatred among other unpleasant things: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_apologies_made_by_Pope_John_Paul_II The sad truth is ... The Middle East is a mess and a place where there is a Clash of Titans primarily due to OIL and those of us who need it for our lives and livelihood. Thanks to Mr. Trump that need is not so dire in the USA anymore but our NATO allies ...??.... so conflict and Geopolitical maneuvers will continue ...... and The Road to Armageddon ......??? ... and .... YUP!! Jew Hatred is still alive and well ... even at MOG GOD SAVE ALL HERE!! PS: R67 sez: "Some of the first Prime Ministers of Israel were members of the terrorist groups The Stern Gang and the Irgun." Terrorists are in the Eye of the Beholder. The Brits, as in the above, thought the Minute Men, Sons of Liberty and the first few Presidents of The USA were terrorists too .... Likewise Michael Collins and the Irish Patriots of 1798 t0 1921
Please cool it guys. Peace can never be restored if the past mistakes are used as a battering ram in debates about who is right and who is wrong. 'Keep Watch and Pray' is what Blessed Mother is asking. Now Blessed Mother as The General in the Spiritual War that is about to break into a physical war without the intervention of God Himself. Blessed Mothers council has to be the only safe defence. 'Keep Watch and Pray' is the foot soldiers orders we have to follow strictly, or pay the price when we have to answer to God. As for the Jews, our precious roots. I often think, what has happened with Jews is breakaway sects from the true Jewish Faith as handed down from Moses. Just like the protestant breakaway sects from the Roman Catholic One True Faith, brought to Rome by Saint Peter himself established by Jesus Christ and handed down through the Apostles to our day. If we can't reconcile the differences that have erupted in the breakaway Christian sects, how in the name of God can we as Christians especially Roman Catholics even begin to unravel the Jewish breakaway sects. IMHO. Keep Watch and Pray. That is what we are called to do, asked to do, pleaded with to do by Blessed Mother.
You and a few others here are way out of line. I don't hate Jews. You and few others brought up "the Jews" and the anti-Semite card right on cue. Take your Zionist-worship elsewhere. I am a Catholic First and the Catholic bishops of Syria fully support Assad. I am an American second and that means putting America's vital national security interests ahead of everyone else, beginning with Israel. There ain't a single, vital AMERICAN national security interest in Syria or the Middle East worth the life of a single U.S. Marine. If you think otherwise, I suggest you move to Israel or Saudi Arabia.
