Prophesy - GSWYL

I agree Lynn. To quote Gamaliel if it is not of God it will disappear and if it is of God be careful lest you be opposing God. I say leave it alone if it troubles you and trust Our Blessed Mother and keep your peace of mind.

 

And also this from Our Lady to Fr. Gobbi:

Jan. 1, 1981 - "As has been many times foreseen, a third world-wide war, which will have the terrible capacity of destroying the greater part of the human race, can take place, if men do not seriously resolve to return to God.

Jan. 19, 1991 - "You are beginning this new year under the grave threat of a conflict which could become the spark for the outbreak of the terrible third world war."

Jan. 1, 1992 - "At the dawn of this new year, the threat of a terrible third world war is becoming stronger and more worrisome. On this same day, Our Lady said, "In the end, after the time of the great trial, there awaits you the time of great peace, great joy, great holiness, the time of the greatest triumph of God in your midst."

Do we not recognize that the world is at war - against humanity, against the Catholic Church and Christianity, against life? Please just let us do what Our Blessed Mother is telling us to do - to "pray, pray, pray". Fiat!

 

Also, prayer can mitigate God's justice. That is what is important.

 

This came to me at mass.

If we believe a set of apparitions / locutions that turn out to false. Genuinely honestly believing them to be true, then we gain all the good fruits of such things.

If on the other hand we believe in that which is true to be true then all the better.

That which is false rots and decays by its very nature. Rather like a satellite falling from space in a decaying orbit. It becomes obvious over time that the false is false, whereas that which is true is Eternal.

You know no one is stupid. Catholics are assisted by grace, we have a good nose if we use it.

 

Anyway in case you ever want to check the attitude of the Church to major mystical phenomena here is a list:


http://www.miraclehunter.com/marian_apparitions/statements/index.html

 

Wow! Not good. This should be a red flag. It's a screeching danger siren for me.

 

Our Lady once said in Medjugorje, “If you are praying for peace in the world and you do not have peace in your heart, that prayer has no value.” Therefore, pray for peace, but begin in your own heart! I believe that should apply to those posting here because there seems to be a lack of peace. Pax Christi

 

How true this is! If a person that reads messages allegedly from God and seeks to love God more, even if the messenger turns out to be fraudulent, God will hear the person's prayer to love Him more. The messenger is only a conduit for God's graces to flow upon those seeking Him. The messengers will never be perfect because only God and the Virgin were sinless. Also, we know from scripture that whoever is not against Jesus, is for Jesus. There are many false prophets about since the 1980's. I followed one for a time. I didn't like being duped, but it didn't lead me to mortal sins, the experience led to to follow Jesus, pray more and to try to be more discerning.

 

I think it was Pope Urban VIII who said that
That if a person believed and it turned out to be false, then they still received the graces as if it were true
I believe he said that
It must be somewhere online

 

In light of this background from the Archbishop of Tuam, I doubt very much that Pope Urban V111 would have had a favourable view of Christina Gallagher's organisation: https://www.tuamarchdiocese.org/2008/03/statements-about-achill-house-of-prayer/

Did she ever apply to Rome for approval and, if so, did she get it?

The activities of her organisation were the subject of another court case in January: https://www.independent.ie/irish-ne...200k-payment-to-house-of-prayer-36203969.html

 

Dolours, Thank you for posting this. It sounds pretty bad.

Verne, This is very true.

I have only read what member Fatima has posted from your book but I do have a question about something that was stated in relation to Pope Benedict XVI. In your own words what did God tell you will happen upon the death of Pope Benedict XVI? I honestly am not certain that I have interpreted the message correctly.

Thank you.

PS - Ultimately, if you have helped people come into the Faith that is a good thing. May God bless you for that.

 

I am no fan of Ms Gallagher

 

I think maybe our disposition in regard to these things is best what we would be if anyone, say a stranger were to tell us something. In charity without further information we could take it on a certain trust that what they said was true in charity.

The alternative is to view everything everyone told us with a certain scepticism with the implied view that folks were out to lie to us and hence were all liars. This is not charitable. Not everyone is a liar. I think it is better to view people as being honest unless it proves otherwise.

The same goes for seerers.

As far as the mystical goes some people say, 'How come?' Whereas I say, 'Why not?'

That is not to say there should not be certain caution, but I think it is good and loving to extend a certain trust to people.At least in the first instance.

As far as Verne is concerned , I don't see anything that might cause me to doubt.

 

It's the local Church authority that has the say over private revelations. Rome normally goes along with the local authority's view unless there is something grievous in the assessment and a grievance being brought to the group overseeing private revelations at the Vatican.

And then again, many decisions by various local Church authorities (Bishops) have been overturned, added to, or taken away by the Bishop who comes later....and on and on. That's also why heaven has to continue its efforts in more revelations that come later and perhaps elsewhere from the original because it works through the Church, and as is obvious more times than not, the Church has been derelict in its duties. That's why graces promised originally are not forthcoming or they are lessened. That's why original time lines are sometimes changed due to the remnant's prayers....by God's Mercy. The Church delays or even interferes and so things promised IF the Church does its part do not come forth. Heaven has its time line. Go against it and the faithful suffer.

I think that maybe that interference, indecision, wishy washy approaches and delays for instance in the case of Garabandal is why Joey Lomangino died before what was expected as given by heaven's timeline and desire. The Church has a lot to repent of and answer for. Heaven gives us and the Church what It desires....and then leaves it up to us to comply with its given plan. People don't realize what their free will is responsible for. Why do people continue to expect something when the Church doesn't respond....with Bishops often completely dismissive and uninterested, only wishing things disappear....but especially disingenuous to the point of actually persecuting the messengers??? Remember at Garabandal our Lady gave just such an advisory about this:

18 October 1961

We must make many sacrifices, perform much penance, and visit the Blessed Sacrament frequently. But first, we must lead good lives. If we do not, a chastisement will befall us. The cup is already filling up, if we do not change, a very great chastisement will come upon us.

18 June 1965

As my message of October l8th has not been complied with and has not been made known to the world, I am advising you that this is the last one. Before, the cup was filling up. Now it is flowing over.

So quoting any particular favorite cleric's opinion has no real authority and shows more of that disastrous and infantile dependency of "clericalism".

 

I did. And I heard her say quite clearly:

HEY! Straighten up down there! Do you want me to send Your Father down there to talk to you? Do you want ME to come down there?! Now, start praying, and be sure to share your lunch with the people next to you. I put something special in there for you, with enough to pass around. C'mon! Make your mama smile, whydoncha'?

Remember: If Mama ain't happy, ain't NOBODY happy.

 

I have my doubts about this timeline.
Also could it be a theological error to suggest people will have glorified bodies in this life?


Without my mercy, no flesh would survive. My Father’s wrath will be unleashed on the ungodly and sinner. I will then, with the brightness of my coming, cast the antichrist and his followers into hell forever. As a result, the world will experience 3days of darkness and my creation purified of evil. Nature and my people will be healed.Then my son, the era of peace will take place where my faithful will be resurrected and rewarded in the first resurrection. My faithful will receive glorified bodies. Those who survive the days of tribulation will be able to live out their lives in peace. Once this era of peace is over, Satan will attack my New Jerusalem, the church, as the Prince of Gog in Ezekiel 38, 39. The length of time of the era of peace has not been revealed to mankind

 

There is a stern warning to those who oppose God's messengers in the partial post that Mac provided. Here is the whole message, with the message at the end bolded by me so that those on the forum who may be determined to work against God will, be warned.


07/07 A.M. My son, write these words to those who call on my name. My children, are you doing and living my will and not yours for your life? Do you truly understand my will for your life? Why are there fighting, bickering, and competition among you over spiritual gifts. Whose will do you seek, my will or your will? Are you letting spiritual pride cause you to seek your own will and not my will?Remember the parable of the talents. One man was given ten talents, another two talents,and another one talent. Two servants took their talents and doubled their talents for their lord. The third servant did nothing with his talent and was cast into outer darkness. This parable has many lessons for you my children today.

I created you each with a unique set of gifts and talents which is suited for you. No one else has been given exactly the same mission in life which you have. Why are you worrying and trying to imitate another person’s mission? Do you not realize you will be judged based on how you fulfill my will in your life. You will not be judged on someone else’s merits. If you are doing my will, then no mission how small in your eyes, is small to me. The problem my people is you judge by the world’s standards, not mine. The world measures success by material criteria, not by humility. Many of my greatest saints were small in the world’s eyes, but great in my eyes. I reward my faithful servants by their humility and willingness to do my will and to fulfill the mission given to them. Look at my mother, for an example. In the world’s eyes, she was just an ordinary Jewish woman. But in my eyes she is the greatest of saints. Why? Because she fulfilled my will perfectly in every area of her life. I am given the greatest glory by a soul completely following my will and the least glory by a soul trying to do his own mission and puffed up with pride. Model yourself after the saints and especially the Holy Family. St Joseph was a carpenter and my mother a wife and mother. But yet the greatest glory a human can ever give to me was from my mother. It did not matter the task she was engaged in. She did it for God’s glory and honor. So it should be likewise for you my people. If you try and fulfill another’s mission, you give me no glory for you commit the sin of pride. You are telling me that you know better than I do what is my will for your life. Do not ask for the greatest mission but ask for the mission, which will bring honor and glory to the Blessed Trinity.

As my word states: no flesh will glory in my sight. If you are called to be a priest, live that vocation according to my will. If you are called to be a parent, live that vocation according to my will. All vocations build up my body, which is the church. Remember even if you do everything which I command, you say: We are unprofitable servants, we have done that which we ought to do. Luke 17:10. How many of you can even say this to me: Jesus, I have done everything which you have commanded. Be careful. Many are called, but few are chosen.Remember I said, even if you only give a cup of water in the name of a disciple, you shall not lose your reward. Matthew 10:41. How much more if you do something in the name of the Lord! Colossians 3:17. All whatsoever you do in word or in work, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ giving thanks to God and Father by him. The more talents you are given, the more I expect from you. When you live in my will, every thought,word, and action becomes part of my will.

A farmer who plants in my will gives me great honor and glory, but if that farmer tried to become a priest for his honor and glory he will be brought to shame. No peace or joy in your life and soul will come to you, if you are trying to live outside my will. My will is what created you and all life. Let go of spiritual pride and live in my will. The greatest reward in heaven went to the one human who fulfilled my will perfectly, my mother Mary. Imitate, my mother Mary and your place in my kingdom will be great. For it is only the meek and humble of heart who deserve entrance to my kingdom. Many souls are in hell and purgatory today for fulfilling their own will through pride and not my will. Many princes of the church will have a lower place in my kingdom, than a simple farmer because of pride. Pride has no place in my church. Pride is causing much schism and division in my faithful.

The houses of prayer are a good example. My messenger Christina Gallagher has a mission to establish my Mother’s houses of prayer. Those who are trying to fulfill her mission for her, are stumbling blocks and need to repent of their sin, for you are interrupting my work. I will not be mocked. Judgment will come on my house. Fulfill your mission, not someone else’s. Again, you will be judged on your deed’s, not on your neighbor’s. Do not be a stumbling block in my kingdom. For I say to you: But he that shall scandalize one of these little ones that believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone should be hanged about his neck and that he should be drowned in the depth of the sea. Woe to the world because of scandals. For it must needs be that scandals come: but nevertheless woe to that man by whom the scandal cometh. Matthew 18:6-7. Do not be like that unfaithful servant, but let me say to you: Well done good and faithful servant. Enter thou into the joy of the Lord. The words of the Lord.

 

No Mac, it is not a theological error to believe that saints with glorified bodies will be walking and teaching those in the Era of Peace. In fact a little study of scripture will tell you it has already happened at least once: Matthew 27:50 [50] And Jesus again crying with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost. [51] And behold the veil of the temple was rent in two from the top even to the bottom, and the earth quaked, and the rocks were rent. [52] And the graves were opened: and many bodies of the saints that had slept arose, [53] And coming out of the tombs after his resurrection, came into the holy city, and appeared to many.

6/27/07 In the beginning, my Father created Adam and Eve with a body and soul. But sin brought death into the world. At death, your body and soul are separated. I myself experienced this, but at my resurrection, I received a glorified body. To this day I am true-God and true-man. I have a glorified body and a soul. This is my promise to my faithful. I will raise you up in the last day. At the last judgment, all of mankind will be resurrected and be reunited both body and soul. My word tells you that you will be judged by those deeds you did in the body. Some will have glorified bodies like mine and my Mother’s and other’s will have the bodies of those condemned to eternal damnation.

10/5/07 After my two witnesses battle the forces of Satan, you will see my two witnesses killed and taken up into heaven. Woe to those who are alive during those days. Without my mercy, no flesh would survive. My Father’s wrath will be unleashed on the ungodly and sinner. I will then, with the brightness of my coming, cast the antichrist and his followers into hell forever. As a result, the world will experience 3days of darkness and my creation purified of evil. Nature and my people will be healed.Then my son, the era of peace will take place where my faithful will be resurrected and rewarded in the first resurrection. My faithful will receive glorified bodies. Those who survive the days of tribulation will be able to live out their lives in peace. Once this era of peace is over, Satan will attack my New Jerusalem, the church, as the Prince of Gog in Ezekiel 38, 39. The length of time of the era of peace has not been revealed to mankind.

Time will be no more, as you know it. The final act of Satan will bring about the end of human history. I will return in the flesh to bring judgment on mankind. I will separate the sheep from the goats. The righteous will inherit eternal life with glorified bodies, and the sinners will be cast into the pool of fire with Satan forever. Purgatory will be emptied at the last judgment. This is a brief outline of events to give you hope and trust in your Savior. The time for the events to begin is now in your human time, not years in the future.

10/23/07 My son is not going to reign in the flesh in the temporal City of Jerusalem. This is a heretical teaching. My son is going to reign in his Eucharistic glory in the New Jerusalem, which is my church. My son will only return in the flesh at the end of the era of peace or human history, to judge mankind at the last judgment. Time will not exist during my era of peace, as you understand it. Apocalypse 20:5-6 states: The rest of the dead lived not, till the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection. In these the second death hath no power. But they shall be priests of God and of Christ: and shall reign with him a thousand years. This first resurrection occurs in the era of peace. My saints will be resurrected and receive glorified bodies and walk among my people, teaching and instructing the Catholic faith. This has been described as the temporal kingdom by the Church Fathers. This will be the Promised Land my children of Israel will inherit. My Will will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Listen to the following words carefully. Only those who trust totally in God Almighty will inherit the Promised Land.

 

Actually if I remember it was when his mission was accomplished. To be honest, I wrote the words down, and if I recall it had to do with Revelations ch 12-13. Pope Benedict has sacrificed much and is still here interceding for us. Remember, this was written down 11 years ago and prayer can change a prophetic warning. Sometimes like with Jonah, a prophecy was given for a specific period of time, and once fulfilled it is finished.
I recall Sister Lucy stated Fatima was through Revelation ch 13, which is the chapter of the mark of the beast. One thing I have learned about prophecy, if almost every prophecy is saying very similar things, I think it would be good to pay attention. The usual way God speaks is through public revelation and his church. When there are many clergy, who are derilect in their duty God,raises up prophets. It happened in the Old Testament and at other times in church history. St Catherine of Sienna is an example. God raised her up during, the Babylonian captivity of church history. God even used Balaam in the Old Testament. Personally, I never asked God to give me any prophecy. I told him I would do his will. Consider the consequences, of being a false prophet. The possibility of leading people astray is a terrible prospect. If I was not sure through multiple confirmations, I would have destroyed all those messages.
To repeat a number of clergy and my spiritual director, gave the Ok before it was published. Finally regarding Christina Gallagher sentence in the book. It states my messenger Christina Gallagher whose mission is to establish my mother’s houses of prayer. I lived in Mn when the Bishop of St Cloud approved the house of prayer in Sauk Center, MN. That message was given around the same time. The Bishop allowed an old church to be renovated and used for the house of prayer. He also allowed mass to be said at the house of prayer and Christina Gallagher to speak. This book only states about the house of prayer. It does not state any other fact as to validity or invalidity of many other of her messages. People have come from all over the country to pray there. I am not the judge, jury, and executioner of any prophecy. That is not my responsibility.
I hope that answers your questions and puts several points into context. For I have answered to the best of my ability and leave the rest up to God. Most who criticize do not know the context of circumstances surrounding this ministry. I respect your opinion, but I have the backing of my spiritual director, a number of clergy, and God. So God bless and let us leave us at that.