"The Dictator Pope": Mysterious New Book Looks "Behind the Mask" of Francis

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  1. AED

    AED Powers

    Well said. (Smile)They won’t go easy. St Michael is the “man” for the job!!
     
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  2. An Guilbneach

    An Guilbneach Mane Nobiscum Domine

    Not good to go down this road. Keep it simple people. The Pope is the Pope remain faithful to him, be in union with him, above all pray for him as you would for your own Father. Love him. Defend the truth in its fullness, this is so important, when doing so, play the ball not the man. Be at peace and enjoy the gift of the life God has given you. Peace and Joy.
     
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  3. AED

    AED Powers

    Yes I think this is true. For the sake of my soul I must do so. Anything else is way above my pay grade. But Padraig’s post here was a shocker. Back to my Rosary Novena for PF. We are now at the thanksgivingbpart of the novena. God bless Fr Heilman.
     
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  4. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I am afraid we have brought it on ourselves through our sins. But Our Lady promised, 'In the End my Immaculate Heart Will Triumph', so we know all this will have a very, very happy ending.

    The Signs are that this is to come very soon.

    It is God's Church and He well knows how to take care of it.

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  5. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I don't want to make people feel like throwing themselves out the window with this stuff. If you find it hard to accept or it gets you down too much just ignore it.:)

    I'm not trying to convince anyone, please take it or leave it as you like. :) However I hope when the time is right you will remember what I wrote here and it will help you to understand and to come to terms with what is about to happen in the Church and on the World.
     
  6. David Healy

    David Healy St Pio Son

    Be very careful folks. Whatever ones view of the current pontificate it is well to understand the following.

    God places enormous importance on Authority. Enormous importance. God has ordained that authority is vital to the proper functioning of society and all its institutions beginning in the family. The husband is the head of the family. Spiritually and temporally. Wives are subject to the husbands authority and children are subject to the mothers authority and the father’s. When children step out from under this authority then problems will occur. All authority derives from God. The Saints knew this and accepted this. They may not always have liked it but they knew and understood the importance of authority and obedience. That is why the great Saints always deferred to the authority of their superiors even when doing so was extremely difficult and even when they felt the decisions of their superiors were wrong or unjust. Still they obeyed. How many times Our Lord and Our Lady instructed the Saints to consult their superiors and to obey them. Even though the superiors words or actions contradicted Our Lord or Our Lady.

    St Pio is a case in point. There are numerous other examples. If we flout authority we step outside of God’s protection in a sense. Most revolutions tend to descend into violence and bloodshed. Where society rebels against legitimate authority you can expect problems. Remember Satan was the original rebel, refusing to submit and obey. One may not like or approve of a particular priest. Prelate or even pontiff BUT if they are in authority over us, spiritual or otherwise we need to be careful. To rebel is to go against God’s divine command and can be spiritually and temporally disastrous. It is beyond our competence as laypeople to determine whether a pontiff has lost the Petrine office and it is also not within our competence to determine whether anyone is diabolically possessed. This is dangerous territory. Be careful. Fools rush in where angels fear to tread. Do not fall for Satan’s tricks. Many end up doing great evil and harm to themselves and others by doing what seems to them to be good. Learn from the Saints. They have much to teach us as they have trod these paths before us. Fair comment in charity with due regard to authority is fair enough but we must be careful not to overstep the mark. Listen to renowned exorcist Father Chad Ripperger on YouTube where he clearly explains authority, it’s role and importance and the dangers in rebelling against it or stepping out from under it.
     
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  7. Julia

    Julia Immaculate Heart of Mary, pray for us.

    I very much like and concur with your post An Guilbneach. Thinking like we would if our natural father was not behaving in the manner we would expect from a Roman Catholic parent, is the way I cope with all the things I read and hear these days. We would pray for our natural fathers' healing and conversion, and I believe the same goes for our Holy Father.

    David Healey's post is a gem, when it comes to how we need to behave in the crisis developing around us.

    We can always keep watch and pray. Trust and believe Jesus is the Sovereign King and Ruler and He will have the final say when all is said and done. Jesus has the power over life and death, and will exercise His power when the time is right.

    In the meantime, our duty is to hold fast to the Faith handed down to us by our fathers, who in many an instance gave their lives for that precious Faith. We have a debt of gratitude first to our God, and then to our forefathers who lived and died for the Faith.

    I have come to realise as I get older, that there are many people out there, especially men who were brought up in families where the father or father figure if even present, failed to teach their sons how to be men. And the result is these men now do not know how to be fathers, and many a young man is left needing to learn when he gets into the work environment; that being if he is lucky enough to meet a proper male figure worth looking up to, in order to be mentored into manhood.

    I mention this because I have heard Pope Francis own father deserted his mother when he was a young boy. It appears his grandmother helped with the children and this was a blessing for the child; but where was the father figure he would have needed to learn the art of fatherhood/manhood. I do believe this is a lot of the problem Holy Father has, and why he does not realise why so many especially learned men are shocked by the way he does things. I believe Holy Father is a victim of a broken home. And I also read his sister has been divorced. So he comes from a broken family with more than one generation affected. We do need to pray for him, and the many, many families out there caught in the same trap. IMHO

    Reading that his superiors did not think he was suitable material for promotion came as no surprise to me for the above reasons.
     
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  8. David Healy

    David Healy St Pio Son

    We are bound to obey our superiors in all things except that which may command us to sin. The proper response of children with a bad father is to pray for him while still respecting his authority. The commandment to honour thy father and thy mother makes great sense when seen in the light of the importance of authority and the dangers one opens oneself up to in stepping out from under that authority.

    That is why we must pray for priests, bishops and the pope. We must recognise their authority and remain obedient no matter how hard it might be. And continue to tend our own little corner of the Lord’s vineyard as best we can. Stay close to the Lord in prayer and the Sacraments. He has not abandoned us nor left us orphans and we can trust Him fully even when to all outward appearances we are in trouble. Remain steadfast in the barque of Peter and trust the Lord will act in His own perfect timing. Do not be discouraged. Do not be afraid.
     
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  9. sunburst

    sunburst Powers

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=137&v=MPlp-vRU624

     
  10. padraig

    padraig Powers

  11. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Yes he is Pope there is no doubt of that. With all that that entails.However of course there ar elimits to nay obedience. If our father was a bank robber , for instance and wanted us to help him rob Fort Knox, we would not be expected to join in.

    ....unless we really wanted to.:):D

    Jesus said this about the religious authorities of His own time, although they were the very folks who had Him murdered.

    Matthew 23:2

    1Then Jesus spoke to the crowds and to His disciples: 2“The scribes and Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. 3So practice and observe everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach.…
     
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  12. carpediemptf

    carpediemptf BeStillandPray

    VERY WISE WORDS!!!
     
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  13. padraig

    padraig Powers

    But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach.…

    Yes Jesus, in referring to the religious authorities of his own day, do as they say, don't do as they do.

    He did not take a , 'hear no evil see no evil speak no evil', policy; He called it like it was. Which is probably the main reason they murdered Him.


    There is nothing wrong with calling a spade a spade. I wish people had done this while the sex abuse buisness was going on.

    The simple fact is Pope Francis was brought in as a Reform Pope and has totally and completely failed to do so.

    Far from getting better things appear to have gotten much, much, much worse.

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  14. padraig

    padraig Powers

  15. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

    Padraig, I'd like to post the whole article just in case the link fails at some point. I hope that you don't mind. (Every time I see the number 13, I think of the Holy Trinity.)

    Pro-life leaders from 13 countries accuse Pope Francis of failing to uphold Church teaching
    by Staff Reporter
    posted Tuesday, 12 Dec 2017
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    Pope Francis speaks during a weekly general audience at the Paul VI audience hall (Getty Images)

    One signatory accused the Pope and other members of the hierarchy of spreading errors

    Leaders of pro-life organisations from across the world have signed a letter accusing Church leaders, including Pope Francis, of undermining their movement through ambiguous statements and actions contrary to Catholic teaching.

    The letter says that over the past 50 years the pro-life movement has “relied in a particular way on the immutable teaching of the Catholic Church, which affirms the moral law with the greatest clarity.”

    However, the signatories say that in recent years that teaching has increasingly been replaced by “ambiguity, and even by doctrines directly contrary to the teaching of Christ and the precepts of the natural law”.

    The letter then lists the concerns of several documents and letters to Pope Francis over the past couple of years, including the Filial Appeal in September 2015, the ‘Dubia’, the Filial Correction earlier this year, and Fr Thomas Weinandy’s letter last month.

    On top of these, the signatories accuse the Pope of statements and actions which “contradict the Church’s teaching on the intrinsic evil of contraceptive acts”, “contradict the Church’s teaching on the nature of marriage and the intrinsic evil of sexual acts outside the union of marriage”.

    They also criticize his approval of the UN Sustainable Development Goals, which they say “effectively call for member states to achieve universal access to abortion, contraception and sex education by 2030”.

    Finally, they condemn the “approach adopted towards sex education, particularly in chapter 7 of Amoris Laetitia and in The Meeting Point programme produced by the Pontifical Council for the Family”.

    Signatories from the UK are John Smeaton of the Society for the Protection of Unborn Children (SPUC), Greg Clovis of Family Life International UK, and Dr Thomas Ward of the National Association of Catholic Families.

    Irish signatories are Patrick Buckley of European Life Network, John Lacken of Legio Sanctae Familiae and the Lumen Fidei Institute, and Anthony Murphy of Catholic Voice.

    John Smeaton, chief executive of SPUC, issued a statement accusing Pope Francis of disseminating errors, and urged priests not to follow them.

    “Over the last couple of years Pope Francis and Vatican authorities have capitulated to the ‘culture of death’ by supporting the pro-abortion United Nations Sustainable Development Goals and by promoting the agenda of the international sex education lobby through Amoris Laetitia and the Pontifical Council for the Family’s pornographic sex education programme. This has a direct effect on real children and real families,” he said.

    “For this reason the pro-life movement cannot bury its head in the sand and ignore what’s happening at the highest levels of the church today,” Smeaton added.

    “We must ceaselessly demand that our priests and bishops teach the fullness of the Church’s doctrine and do not collaborate, even for a moment, in the dissemination of errors that are tragically being spread by His Holiness Pope Francis and by many other senior members of the hierarchy. If we fail to take this stand we will be failing in our duty to the weak and vulnerable children that we have pledged to protect.”
     
  16. Dolours

    Dolours Guest

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    Good for them being a voice for the voiceless.

    That Catholic Herald article, Padraig, has far more credibility than the two videos you posted, both of which were extremely biased. The slanted, deceitful message about the situation leading up to and surrounding the negotiation and signing of the Lateran Treaty was enough to make me disregard all the rest of it. Then when I saw the NCR's John Allen trotted out as their expert on all things Catholic waxing lyrical about how Pope Francis was brought in not to change Church teaching but to clean out the Vatican Bank, my earlier suspicions were confirmed. I take all supposed experts or insiders with a grain of salt because considering the number of people who supposedly know so much and have so many well informed contacts, there was remarkable silence about the abuse until it became a convenient tool to undermine Popes they didn't like. The second video isn't news. It used the orgy in a building owned by the CDF to infer that the CDF is not serious about investigating priestly abuse. The ill-informed video maker either didn't know or didn't bother to find out that while the CDF owns the building it does not control who gets to occupy the apartments.

    Better to stick to legitimate, fact based articles than go off on a tangent with biased slurs from virulently anti-Catholic sources.
     
  17. BrianK

    BrianK Guest

    http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/new...-eventually-says-author-of-the-dictator-pope/

    ‘They will unmask me eventually,’ says author of ‘The Dictator Pope’
    Dan HitchensWednesday, 13 Dec 2017
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    The original Marcantonio Colonna, admiral of the papal fleet at the Battle of Lepanto
    The pseudonymous 'Marcantonio Colonna' claims Pope Francis has seen a shortlist of six possible authors

    Marcantonio Colonna, the pseudonymous author of The Dictator Pope, has said the Vatican is trying to discover his identity. The book was published as a Kindle edition last week and has caused consternation with its claims about Pope Francis’s reign.

    Speaking to the Catholic Herald over email, Colonna claimed that the Pope had been given a list of possible names.

    “A person in England was misidentified as the author at one point and immediately received threatening telephone calls from Rome,” Colonna said. “I now hear that Vatican officials have laid before the Pope a shortlist of six people who they think may be the possible author. I suspect that it’s not for the purpose of awarding a literary prize.”

    Asked whether he thought his anonymity would last, Colonna said: “Under the present Pope, the Vatican machine has taken espionage to a new level, and I have little doubt that they will unmask me eventually, perhaps after a few more false casts. But they will need to ask themselves whether it is at the cost of giving me more publicity.”

    Colonna believes his book has “hit a vein of disillusionment with Francis’s papacy which the mainstream media have missed”.

    Some critics have suggested Colonna’s book is mere gossip. For instance, it draws on a supposed report by the Jesuit superior general Fr Peter-Hans Kolvenbach, commissioned when Fr Jorge Bergoglio was proposed as a bishop in Argentina. Fr Kolvenbach’s report allegedly stated that Fr Bergoglio was “unsuitable for such an appointment” because of character defects, which he went on to describe. (The report has since disappeared.)

    Asked why the reader should believe this, Colonna replied: “The account I give of the report in my book is not based on rumour. It’s based on first-hand information I received from a priest who read the report when it was first issued, and who was fully in the know of the ecclesiastical process involved.”

    Colonna says his concern is not primarily to cover the recent doctrinal controversies in the Church. “My purpose was simply to show the gulf that exists between the image of the liberal, democratic Pope Francis and the true character of this pontificate,” he said. “That is something that ought to give all Catholics cause for concern.”
     
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  18. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

    Brian,

    I wonder how much time and resources will be spent on this undertaking.

    When this author is exposed, then what? I am not even certain what they will do if he is a clergyman, I don't really believe that there is cause for excommunication. I suppose that there will be an attempt to discredit this individual but much of the information is factual except for the statements which are character related which are a matter of opinion, imo. I suppose a character deformation lawsuit is possible but coming from a Pope that could look like proof of the allegations.

    It's a very sad situation. I think it is best that the Pope ignores the untruths and gets back to work on the reform of the Vatican.

    I'll be dedicating a rosary to the Pope and to the end of all the craziness, I'm not sure what else to call it right now.
     
  19. BrianK

    BrianK Guest

    On EWTN Robert Royal praised the book and said 90% of it is incontrovertible. The rest is not established as “fact” only because the author had to protect his sources.

    It’s the 90% this pope needs to worry about, not the undocumented (but nonetheless probably truthful) 10%.
     
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  20. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

    Brian,

    I always feel that when it comes to character evaluations, it is a matter of opinion more or less. Some people or going to like us and others are not. I can't imagine that the Pope could be so, so different behind closed doors but some times this is the case with people.

    You are absolutely correct about what Robert Royal has stated and I have read the book and the author includes many. many references that is what I meant by the Pope's time would be better spent addressing the reform of the Vatican than trying to hunt down who this author is, but it is wishful thinking on part I'm afraid.
     

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