That anti-Christian Chinese communists would get the say in selecting bishops is on a par with Henry VIIIth having been given the go-ahead by the Church in his time. China is the great prize of evangelisation. Identifying the Church as just another arm of Marxist totalitarianism will surely kill this evangelisation stone dead.
Cardinal Zen Calls on Vatican To 'Not Sell Out the Faithful Church' in China By Michael W. Chapman | November 14, 2017 | 6:18 PM EST Cardinal Joseph Zen. (YouTube) During his sermon for a Catholic priest who died mysteriously in Communist China, Cardinal Joseph Zen, the bishop emeritus of Hong Kong, called on God to save the Holy See "from the brink of the precipice and not sell out the faithful Church" to the Chinese government, reported Asia News on Nov. 11. The Holy See is the church in Rome, the Vatican. Cardinal Joseph Zen served as the sixth bishop of Hong Kong, from 2002 to 2009. He was elevated to Cardinal by Pope Benedict XVI in March 2006. Although he is retired now, Cardinal Zen often speaks out about the persecution of Catholics in China and is a strong proponent of political freedom. In his sermon, Cardinal Zen was referring to ongoing negotiations between the Vatican and the Communist Chinese government concerning the selection of bishops. Since the Communist revolution in 1950, there have been two Catholic churches in China: the Catholic Patriotic Association (CPA), which is run by the government, and the real, underground Catholic Church, which is loyal to Rome, and is illegal in China. Pope Francis speaking before the U.S. Congress, Sept. 24, 2015. (YouTube, CSPAN) In the real Catholic Church in China, bishops, priests, and lay people have been persecuted for 60-plus years. The bishops in the real church are selected by the Pope. Many of them have been imprisoned and tortured over the years. Continue here: https://www.cnsnews.com/blog/michae...ls-vatican-not-sell-out-faithful-church-china
Eloquent defense of the Body and Blood of Jesus, already “greatly outraged by sinful men” (the angel of Fatima)and of our Faith. I think of that powerful hymn “Faith of our Fathers”
This would be a betrayal of saints and martyrs priests and people in China. A terrible betrayal. This is truly a bridge too far !
If only there were such zeal in denouncing abuses of doctrine and liturgy. That is a pollution that wreaks havoc on soul and body both.
What a joke PF has become and is...a dangerous one. https://www.theglobeandmail.com/new...es-of-climate-change-deniers/article36999232/
Sg, you have summed up the downward spiral of Masonic evils well However, EMHC are permitted by the Church under certain conditions Also please keep in mind that the abuses you mention have happened over more than a fifty year time period Over more than a couple of papacies Much good has come out of the times we discussed as well as evils We need to be careful not to become sedevacantists Satan is not the one who is Pope Pope Francis is, and even though these evils are happening now with great rapidity, Our focus is always on our salvation When I suggested that you write a letter it was because you seem to be inclined toward action Maybe if you write one, put it away, pray over it You do not need to send it But it may relieve some of that impassioned need to DO something I agree with you about this forum and I continue to pray for you and all of us on it
If only he could speak on abortion with such conviction Message of the Holy Father to the President of the 23rd Session of the Conference of States Parties to the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (COP-23), 16.11.2017 The following is the Message sent by the Holy Father Francis to H.E. Mr. Frank Bainimarama, Prime Minister of the Fij Islands, President of the 23rd Session of the Conference of States Parties to the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (COP-23), taking place in Bonn from 6 to 17 November 2017, which was read during yesterday’s session: Message of the Holy Father To His Excellency Mr. Frank Bainimarama Prime Minister of the Fiji Islands President of the 23rd Session of the Conference of States Parties to the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (COP-23) Bonn, 6-17 November 2017 Excellency, Nearly two years ago, the international community gathered within this UNFCCC forum, with most of its highest government representatives, and after a long and complex debate arrived at the adoption of the historic Paris Agreement. It saw the achievement of consensus on the need to launch a shared strategy to counteract one of the most worrying phenomena our humanity is experiencing: climate change. The will to follow this consensus was highlighted by the speed with which the Paris Agreement entered into force, less than a year after its adoption. The Agreement indicates a clear path of transition to a low- or zero-carbon model of economic development, encouraging solidarity and leveraging the strong links between combating climate change and poverty. This transition is further solicited by the climatic urgency that requires greater commitment from the countries, some of which must endeavour to take a leading role in this transition, bearing in mind the needs of the most vulnerable populations. These days you are gathered in Bonn to carry out another important phase of the Paris Agreement: the process of defining and constructing guidelines, rules and institutional mechanisms so that it may be truly effective and capable of contributing to the achievement of the complex objectives it proposes. In such a path, it is necessary to maintain a high level of cooperation. From this perspective, I would like to reaffirm my urgent call to renew dialogue on how we are building the future of the planet. We need an exchange that unites us all, because the environmental challenge we are experiencing, and its human roots, regards us all, and affects us all. [...] Unfortunately, many efforts to seek concrete solutions to the environmental crisis are often frustrated for various reasons ranging from denial of the problem to indifference, comfortable resignation, or blind trust in technical solutions (cf. Encyclical Laudato si’, 14). We should avoid falling into the trap of these four perverse attitudes, which certainly do not help honest research or sincere and productive dialogue on building the future of our planet: denial, indifference, resignation and trust in inadequate solutions. Moreover, we cannot limit ourselves only to the economic and technological dimension: technical solutions are necessary but not sufficient; it is essential and desirable to carefully consider the ethical and social impacts and impacts of the new paradigm of development and progress in the short, medium and long term. From this perspective, it is increasingly necessary to pay attention to education and lifestyles based on an integral ecology, capable of taking on a vision of honest research and open dialogue where the various dimensions of the Paris Agreement are intertwined. It is useful to remember that the Agreement recalls the “grave … ethical and moral responsibility to act without delay, in a manner as free as possible from political and economic pressures, setting aside particular interests and behaviour” (cf. Message to COP-22). This means, in effect, propagating a “responsible awareness” towards our common home (cf. Encyclical Laudato si’, 202; 231) through the contribution of all, in explaining the different forms of action and partnership between the various stakeholders, some of whom do not lack to highlight the ingenuity of the human being in favour of the common good. While I send my greetings to you, Mr President, and to all the participants in this Conference, I hope that, with your authoritative guidance and that of the Fiji Islands, the work of these days will be inspired by the same collaborative and prophetic spirit manifested during the COP-21. This will enable an acceleration of awareness-raising and consolidate the will to make effective decisions to counteract the phenomenon of climate change while at the same time fighting poverty and promoting true human development as a whole. This commitment is supported by the wise providence of God Most High. Vatican City, 7 November 2017
I'm afraid that the Faith of our Fathers is being whittled away by clergymen who, having worked assiduously for decades undermining the faith at every opportunity, are now in positions of authority in the Church and are openly implementing their heresies with cover from the Vatican. Priests here and there will bless homosexual unions (we don't call it marriage) while their Bishops turn a blind eye despite news coverage; Bishops here and there will interpret Amoris Laetitia as condoning open Communion (the internal forum is all that matters), leaders of Jesuit educational institutions and some Bishops call for Catholics to support gay marriage laws in various countries. All of them use Pope Francis's changes in the Church to justify what they are doing and not a single one of them has been disciplined or ordered to stop. Changing Church teaching on marriage and the Eucharist appears to be top of the agenda of the Jesuit Order. Don't forget that the Pope wants Jesuits teaching discernment in every diocese. With Magisterial cover from the Vatican via ambiguous statements and documents from the Pope, it's only a matter of time before the odd heretical practice here and there spreads throughout the Church and becomes the norm. It's really quite a clever (actually cunning) way to change the Church from within without any blame attaching to the Pope. When Pope Francis is dead and gone, these people can say that the "people's Pope" supported them by his silence when they were only acting in response to his statements. I checked the links in that article about Turin. The quotes in it were taken from the website of the Turin Archdiocese. Here's the source on Turin's website: http://www.lavocedeltempo.it/Rubric...spitalita-eucaristica-due-proposte-un-cammino You can use Google Translate to read it. There is absolutely no way the Pope can be unaware of this. He was faster than Mo Farrah off the blocks stopping Cardinal Sarah from doing his job but does nothing to stop this mockery of the Blessed Eucharist in Turin as he does nothing to stop all the other abuses. At some stage even the most ardent papolators will have to wake up and smell the coffee. Perhaps they have and perhaps they, too, have been closet Lutherans all along. May the Holy Spirit protect us from wolves posing as shepherds.
https://onepeterfive.com/why-we-dont-write-about-laudato-si-and-other-papal-emissions/ Why We Don’t Write About Laudato Si and Other Papal Emissions Steve Skojec November 16, 2017 29 Comments If it has nothing to do with saving souls, if it’s trendy with the global elite, if it’s humanist or immanentist or keeps our eyes focused here and not heaven, Francis is all about it. Which explains the latest bit of anthropogenic Catholic climate change from His Holiness, conveniently titled (so you don’t need to bother reading the article), “Pope rebukes climate deniers as ‘perverse’ in Bonn message“. If you’ve ever wondered why we spend so little time here covering the pope’s ecological opinions, the answer is simple: I just don’t care.
Well, he's wasting his time unless the Chinese and Indians cut their emissions drastically and I don't think they recognise his authority. I suppose they could be persuaded with the right kind of dialogue and reaching out to the peripheries. Should we look forward to Cardinal Xi Jinping, and a Vatican Stamp of Chairman Mao in honour of the Cultural Revolution? What about St. Gandhi, and new priestly vestments consisting of a sheet? Maybe Cardinal wouldn't be Magisterial enough for the Chinese. What about Pope Xi saving the world? A Jesuit university like Georgetown or Notre Dame would be so at home in Beijing - they would fit right in without having to change a single tenet of the faith they have been so successful at nurturing in their students. Best to send the Superior General to India where he can baptise himself Hindu as well as Buddhist now that all religions are the same and proselytising is so unmerciful. He can take Fr. Martin with him to perfect his Ignatian Yoga spirituality.
It's tragic. While my post above was a bit of a send-up, an extra prayer is in order for the faithful Church in China.
As bad as it is for us to see the Church decaying, it is so much worse for the Chinese Thank you for the reality check
I think the vestment achievement was reached some time ago. https://veneremurcernui.wordpress.com/2013/02/20/mexican-priest-has-superhero-chasuble/
Well when you take the sacrifice out of the Mass, what you're left with is a celebratory meal around the table. God is throwing a party and the priest is the MC. The best children's parties have entertainers like clowns or magicians, so I suppose the priest is the entertainment. In fairness to that priest, I don't think that many of today's children are capable of sitting quietly on hard seats for long spells of time. When we were young children there were twice as many in the class and there was no such thing as special needs assistants. I doubt that anyone in our school had ever been assessed by a psychologist for mild disabilities such as attention deficit disorder. We sat in rows of desks and the only teaching aid was the blackboard. In that kind of environment, there would have been chaos without strict discipline. So, we learned to sit quietly, pay attention and listen. And the faith wasn't confined to a couple of religion classes per week. We also had the benefit of faith in our homes and in our neighbourhoods. I think that children now get bored more easily. Very many of them are living in an environment where religion is scoffed at, even in nominally Catholic homes. Many Catholic schools also only teach them the very minimum about the faith, only in religion class and very likely by teachers who are lukewarm at best. How can a priest be expected to cope with that? I don't know the answer but I do know that in those circumstances getting the message of the faith and the meaning of the Mass through to children is a mammoth task. Perhaps over-enthusiasm is that priest's greatest failing but my heart goes out to priests trying to combine Mass and basic catechesis during about 45 minutes on a Sunday. Yes, it's irreverent. Yes, it's OTT. But the priest knows that if the children don't like being at Mass they will dig in their heels and parents will take the easy option of not bringing them again. In many ways, the poor priest is in a no-win situation.
Am I correct in saying that a pope has no more authority in matters such as 'climate change' than one's plumber would have in giving advice about root-canal treatment? We don't look back to Saint Peter for information about ancient aquaduct construction or even to get a feel for the weather patterns in ancient Rome. Given the modern celebrations of sodomy, lesbianism, transexualism and whatever new depths to which anyone can descend, the use of the word 'perverse' to describe people who are sceptical about climatic soothsayers with their underlying totalitarian agenda is beyond irony. Sadly, I suspect the word selection is entirely and calculatedly premeditated. It's use is an example of the capriciousness it describes. To assert that one must not be indifferent or resigned about the future of the planet, but must enthusiastically engage in 'rebuilding' it, is the height of arrogance. We do not have the knowledge required, and not by orders of magnitude. The affair is entirely speculative, with its basis on computer models which have about as much connection with reality as does Space Invaders with warfare. It is wise to leave well enough alone that about which one is ignorant. It is just as likely that reducing emissions could trigger another long overdue Ice Age as prevent the planet from an entirely imagined overheating. What business such Towers of Babel are to the Pope, I have no idea.
